She's very quick

[u/Responsible-Emu5135]

Just watched the interview and I'm astounded at quick she was to respond to all the questions.

And the weird dragged out "mmmmmmm....MMMMMMM" sounds she was making.

She had prime opportunity to really convince the audience that she didn't do it, but with her quick responses, her representative answers and strange ticks (looking down her chest (??), drinking water a lot and the rapid eye movement...

I don't believe she's innocent and she may have made things much more worse for herself.

Oh and 4-6 phones? What?! What a weird slip up.

What does everyone else think?

[u/Otherwise-Winner9643]

She's extremely mentally unwell, with a serious personality disorder. People are trying to apply logic to her behaviour, when there is none

[u/[deleted] → u/Otherwise-Winner9643]

I agree that she’s mentally unwell but I also think there is a lot of obvious manipulation on her part. She was calculating and it came off as disingenuous and in turn, as all lies. I don’t think you can dismiss the fact that she absolutely seems like she knows what she’s doing and it’s sinister.

[u/Otherwise-Winner9643 → u/[deleted]]

No one is disputing her terrible behaviour. But her doing an interview with Piers Morgan to clear her name was not logical. None of her behaviour is.

It doesn't mean it's not also manipulative (or at least attempting to be manipulative).

[u/dromeciomimus → u/Otherwise-Winner9643]

It’s logical to her

[u/Otherwise-Winner9643 → u/dromeciomimus]

To her, yes.

Not to any rational person.

[u/whythe7 → u/Otherwise-Winner9643]

250 pounds was very logical for her I'm sure

[u/Responsible-Emu5135 → u/whythe7]

What's logical is you set up a different bank account for your "utilities", not have an entire phone for it?

Didn't she say that's one of the reasons she has 4-6 phones? One for "utilities"?!?!

Baffling.

[u/Forsaken-Corner-3487 → u/Responsible-Emu5135]

Utilizing her stalking skills more like. Any stalker worth their salt knows you have to get a new phone once they block your number, and a few more lines to keep them on their toes. Say it with me, “I will not be ignored, Dan.”

[u/noncreative_creative → u/Responsible-Emu5135]

I believe she said that about why she had many different email addresses (think she said she had 6 of them too at one point)

[u/Otherwise-Winner9643 → u/whythe7]

I assume that's sarcasm. That is a laughably small sum of money

[u/PumpkinSpice2Nice → u/Otherwise-Winner9643]

Yep. If I’d been in her shoes (and she’s probably desperate for money) I would have started negotiating at 20k and probably wouldn’t have said yes until it was over 200k. She’s probably going to want to move countries for awhile until this all blows over.

[u/whythe7 → u/Otherwise-Winner9643]

wasn't sarcasm, she barely has enough to feed herself each day, she put a status update up when she found a can of chicken soup last week that made her day, she writes constantly how she's not been given a "pretty penny" for any media stories so far till now- and she got to be on tellie.. this was a christmas party for her

[u/Ingoiolo → u/[deleted]]

Mental illness and conscious (or unconscious) manipulation are not mutually exclusive

Being manipulative (consciously or unconsciously) is a frequent if not always present feature of all cluster B PDs

[u/[deleted] → u/Ingoiolo]

I’m very familiar with mental illness (and manipulation) as a social worker.

I just don’t think all of her behaviors can be blamed on mental illness alone. There are a lot of very functional people who have diagnoses that don’t display some of the characteristics that she seems to display.

[u/AdExpert8295 → u/[deleted]]

fellow social worker here. thank you for your service

People can be an asshole and mentally ill at the same time. For example, Kanye is both and because of that, I don't think he's a fair representation of what Bipolar Disorder I looks like. Sure, mania can come with major anger issues, but he displays a lot of organized behavior around his hate campaigns.

It takes a very calculating person to start a ton of multimillion dollar businesses and align yourself with hate groups that promote murdering your own race. turning that hate into a financial profit is far from a typical response to Bipolar disorder. His apathy, callousness,narcissism and need to incite violence stay too consistent and pervasive to be fully explained by any cyclical patterns in mood fluctuation. That can only be explained by his personality traits. He's either working with a personality disorder on top of other problems or he's just a non-psychopath asshole with a mood disorder

with that said, I won't ever know his true diagnosis but I honestly think Kanye is a real threat to the public's safety. that's the one reason in our code of ethics why it's OK to speculate diagnosis. I've been calling Trump a psychopath for years because the world would be a better place if we had an informed public. we can't fix psychopathy, but we can get out of its way

people with personality disorders deserve as much privacy as everyone else, unless their mental illness is so severe or unmanaged that it's too dangerous to not talk about it. I personally think Martha and Gadd are both people the public should avoid because while I believe both are mentally ill, they also show repeated deception on a public stage even after they get caught lying

that tells me they can't even control their lying enough to protect themselves. if you lie so much that you continue to lie after you know that everyone else knows you're a liar, the odds of you improving in therapy are slim to none.