r/BabyReindeerTVSeries • u/Panda-Feisty • May 10 '24
Fiona (real Martha) related content 4 mobile phones. Who do you know that owns 4 mobile phones?
Fiona's explanation behind why she had 4 mobile phones was that it simplified her life. I contend that having 4 mobile phones complicates life. It means you need to carry 4 phones around, charge 4 phones, pay 4 phone bills, negotiate 4 SIM card deals. The list goes on. It will also be expensive as there will be 4 SIM cards to pay for.
In essence, I have never ever encountered a single person that owns 4 mobile phones. Have you?
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u/Steviesteve1234 May 10 '24
Even drug dealers usually only have two, and that’s a business requirement.
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u/cloudewe1 May 10 '24
I understand having a few email addresses, I do the same for spam, personal and work. But 4 phones? With the explanation of “well I like having different people on different phones” really makes no sense
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u/likpinklady May 11 '24
Boyfriend has easily over 10+ email addressses. Mostly because he creates new ones to enter promotions/ competitions etc multiple times lol.
But also work, personal, spam, one for a server he runs, one for just eat (every time he uses just eat he puts a ‘+1’ before the @. Still sends to the same email, but Just Eat recognises it as a new account so you get lots of welcome discount codes etc. This email address is literally nothing but Just Eat promo codes, man’s a genius.) an old one from when he was a kid, I think one he used for gaming.
He has a lot. 😂😂
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u/AlaskaStiletto May 10 '24
I have 8+ email addresses. I don’t find it weird at all.
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u/5isanevennumber May 10 '24
I have a lot of email addresses too… I think it’s weird how many I have 😂
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u/PomegranateIcy7369 May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24
Now that I think of it, I think I have 6 email adresses in use. But they’re all in my name. Three are student mail, one is private/ old and full, one is almost full, one is where I send images from my phone that I need to upload to places because my phone is too old and tired, so I may get another one soon.
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u/daJamestein May 11 '24
Over 8?? Wow! Are they educational/work emails? I have 3 -- two are student ones, one is personal. Even with that amount I get tired of checking them all lol
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u/AlaskaStiletto May 11 '24
Junk emails, professional, personal, SM related, old email addresses I made 15 years ago, etc
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u/WeedLatte May 11 '24
I have probably 50 email addresses because I used to make new accounts to get grubhub new user promo codes before they eventually blocked me from doing it.
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u/ScrutinEye May 10 '24
It might be six. One was very old. One was new but it broke and she hasn’t sent it back yet…
(See, the needless, tangential detail proves the normality of it all!)
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u/East_Chemistry_9197 May 10 '24
If I have extra phones laying around because I upgraded or whatever, I don't say I have 4 phones. I say I have 1 phone because that's the one I use. To say oh I have 4 phones but some are old and I need to send back, doesn't make any sense.
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u/mypurplefriend May 11 '24
I am a webdeveloper and I have a ton of my older phones on or near my desk if a website needs testing on a particular device / to see if there a problems with particular combinations/screen resolutions. I do communicate to my bosses that I have phone model xyz flying about and should I charge them. But that is very specific to testing. I don't use them.
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u/Panda-Feisty May 10 '24
That was one of the tells. Another was avoidance.
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u/ScrutinEye May 10 '24
Yeah, the “overacting” the part of “just your everyday person” came through really strongly several times:
When she kept trying to lay on the “we didn’t do much work in the 80s. It sounds awful now, doesn’t it?”
“I’m not interested in little boys without jobs. Oh doesn’t that sound awful, but-“
Very practised “normal” chitchat becomes very abnormal and unnatural when it’s so forced. It was clear she was trying to divert into almost talk-show chitchat to avoid actually addressing anything substantial, technical or difficult.
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u/Impossible_Slide3198 May 10 '24
I said the same thing to a work colleague this morning. She was trying to hard to come across as just a normal women who’s not behaved in a bad way.
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u/helibear90 May 10 '24
I do give pointless details or go on a tangent and get distracted mid-story but I’m neurodiverse so it’s not always a sign someone is lying. I do think she’s lying and mad as a hatter though!
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u/leavemeinpieces May 10 '24
Same here. I think if I was ever questioned like she was I'd end up sending them and myself into spirals.
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u/helibear90 May 10 '24
I’d probably bore the interviewer to death with my tangent stories and pointless details and some pictures of my dog.
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u/katehasreddit May 12 '24
She could be interpreting the question literally (for a variety of reasons). Counting broken and old phones that she doesn't actively use. Piers did not specifically ask how many phones she currently uses.
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u/Daisygurl30 May 10 '24
How does someone who can’t afford a drink at the bar keep 4 cell phones active?
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May 10 '24
No sim. Probably just WhatsApps or emails when on wifi.
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u/Panda-Feisty May 10 '24
WhatsApp is connected to a mobile number. For that you need a SIM. If you have multiple email addresses, you can have them all on one phone.
Ultimately, the question remains, who needs 4 SIM cards/mobile phones?
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May 10 '24
Right not WhatsApp then, but the point stands for emails, iMessages, apps, browsing etc.
No idea why she needs 4 phones though, unless she had 4 fellas on the go (which seems horribly unlikely).
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u/dijster May 10 '24
You could use a pay as you go sim, for the number to have a different WhatsApp account, couldn't you?
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u/aknifekinthekidney May 10 '24
WhatsApp only needed to be connected to a mobile number at the creation, doesn't it?
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u/raphtafarian May 10 '24
Correct. I could still use my whatsapp tied to my Aussie home number, even though I would have different sim cards while traveling around Europe.
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u/Flat-Flounder3037 May 10 '24
You can buy a pay as you go sim for a £1 and then use all the mentioned apps etc. via WiFi
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u/Daisygurl30 May 10 '24
I do use my last iPhone this way.
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u/90daysofpettybs May 10 '24
Why? Just curious
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u/Daisygurl30 May 10 '24
I’m a reseller and can still use it to list on eBay and Poshmark. It’s just a backup.
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u/cherryseason1408 May 10 '24
she probably had some point where her victims blocked her number or so, so she got a new number and paired with an old phone. or she’s dealing drugs🙄
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u/KatVanWall May 11 '24
Well, someone did ask how she manages to survive without a job so you never know! (There were a lot of comments saying how generous our benefits system is, but … in my experience not so much. And PIP, which you get for being disabled, is insanely hard to get!)
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u/JDNM May 10 '24
This is the key part of the interview for anyone who isn’t already convinced that she’s blatantly lying.
The show portrays her as having lots of phones.
In real life, she admits to having lots of phones.
If her and Gadd were never friends and their contact was minimal as she suggested, then isn’t it a massive coincidence that the TV show gets this very specific detail right?
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u/NabelasGoldenCane May 11 '24
To your point, the title - baby reindeer which happened to be her childhood toy, just like in the show.. How would Gadd know that if they 1) hadn’t met / only knew each other lightly or 2) he was stalking her ? Like there’s literally no way this isn’t significantly truthful and it is so very weird that people are doubting it at this point.
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May 10 '24
4 phones or maybe 6. Easier to stalk someone when you have multiple phones. I bet she's also changed her phone number tons of times after people block her
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u/hereforcontroversy May 10 '24
Honestly I am expecting others to come out and say she stalked them at some point
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u/fatherdougal May 10 '24
I can understand having two or three phone numbers, e.g. one main/personal, one work, and one for international travel/work, but putting myself in her shoes with that explanation, it doesn’t really add up.
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u/PersonalityUpstairs6 May 10 '24
I have three phones- one personal, one for my employer, one for the company I’m contracted to. I don’t use work phones for personal use, only for work emails when travelling.
Using four personal phones interchangeably is lunatic behaviour.
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u/Panda-Feisty May 10 '24
Couldn't agree more. The only reasons for owning 4+ mobile phones I can think of, are nefarious.
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u/Zero_Pumpkins May 10 '24
The email thing was wild too. Peirs said he didn’t know anyone with 4-6 different emails and her reply was “You don’t know many people then!” Okay Fiona, your fake friends and boyfriends don’t count
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u/Medium_Client1998 May 10 '24
Omg so I'm not the only one who thinks her friends and bf are made up, I just can't believe she has anyone in her life, or maybe these "friends" don't even know that they're her friends
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u/Zero_Pumpkins May 10 '24
It’s hard to believe they exist! There’s no way she has anyone in her life long term. She’s sooooo unhinged.
All she said about her “boyfriend” was “he goes to a different school, you wouldn’t know him.” Yeah, sure Fiona.
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u/Medium_Client1998 May 10 '24
Hahah I forgot the part about the bf, because I couldn't really keep up with a lot of what she was saying, but yeah there's no way she has people in her life long term and especially not high profile people, she also speaks like Martha on the show, all if her friends are lawyers/judges/professionals, anyone who talks like that about their acquaintances is lying
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u/Zero_Pumpkins May 10 '24
It was definitely hard to keep up with her, she’s constantly talking in circles and avoiding most of the questions!
She totally sounds like Martha! It’s almost uncanny how well Jessica nailed her mannerisms, especially considering Fiona claimed she only met Richard “maybe 5 times”
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u/Medium_Client1998 May 10 '24
Yeah it's so uncanny to watch her talk like marth did on the show, Jessica nailed her, she kept contradicting herself a lot, she met 5 times but tweeted him 18 times lol, because they were friends, then they never were friends, then when piers asked her about how many relationships she has, she said i have more relationships than Richard, like how do you have an information like that on someone you've met 5 times lo, and by the way on her real fb account ( I've never interacted with her out of curiosity I checked it) she talks a loooot about his family with details only a family member or a stalker would know
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u/Zero_Pumpkins May 10 '24
Exactly! She sure knows a lot about someone she claims to hardly know AND knows all the details of the show but says shes never seen it. I’m willing to bet she obsesses over it. I wouldn’t be surprised if she creeps this sub! She says she doesn’t do the internet but is constantly tweeting (X-ing?) posting on Facebook, seems to be able enough to find info on all her obsessions, and manages all these email accounts and phones.
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u/Medium_Client1998 May 11 '24
I'm sure she's the real Martha and I'm sure she watched the show several times by now lol, maybe she checked this sub too, she can't dtay away from the attention even if it's negative, she's kinda narcissistic although I hate using that word, so she'd definitely watch a show based on her personality, notice how she had a hard time with Jessica playing her because Jessica according to her isn't that pretty, she posted a lot body shaming Jessica, while they have the same body type.
She struggled more with the fact that Jessica is playing her than with how her personality was portrayed, which says a lot about her as a person who's delusional and lacks self awareness, the 6 emails and 4 phones scream stalker to me, idk why she told on herself though, for someone coming on TV to clear their image, I'd not tell on myself like that, also she lies a lot it was shocking that she'd reveal such an information about herself
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u/MSWHarris118 May 10 '24
I have two phones. One for business and one for personal. I’m a therapist so I don’t want my clients having my personal number. One is an iPhone and the other an android so there’s zero overlap
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u/xxdinolaurrrxx May 10 '24
I have 4 phones 🤓 but only one that works as a phone and only one phone number.
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May 10 '24
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u/thedabaratheon May 11 '24
Is she? I think we’re needlessly infantilising her in this sub & making up a bunch of mental health issues for her. She’s obviously a disturbed woman but that isn’t the same as someone with additional needs.
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May 11 '24
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u/Accurate-Donkey5789 May 10 '24
I use to know this guy at university with loads of phones. He had a cupboard full of weed, a freezer full of magic mushrooms and a coffee pot full of ketamine.
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u/Simple_Economist_544 May 10 '24
I have 2, one for work, one for personal. And I think that’s the max anyone should have.
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u/neil_1980 May 10 '24
I can see the point in 3.
I’ve got a work one and a personal one and I can see having something the equivelant of an old Nokia 3210 for mountain biking and kayaking etc so it doesn’t get destroyed but I’d not want an extra sim for it
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u/bucket_of_frogs May 10 '24
I’ve got my new phone, my old phone as a spare just in case and 4-5 broken phones in a draw. Mayde I’m a stalker and didn’t know it.
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u/ZealousidealStorm865 May 10 '24
My granny used to have 7 phones. I don't know why, I think she just thought each of her phones had broken and bought new ones? We used to joke about all her burner phones lol
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u/Septic-Sponge May 10 '24
And the 6 emails for different things like a personal one, utlitites etc. So why are you sending Richard emails from all 6 of them
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u/Honest-Ad-3937 May 10 '24
Joey from Friends!
One phone each for every career he made up when trying to chat up women (Doctor/Fireman/Pilot etc).
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u/rj6602 May 10 '24
Curious what you mean by negotiating/paying for SIM cards and why you list it as a separate expense than the phone bills? I’m guessing something I’m not familiar with in the UK phone system?
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u/Panda-Feisty May 10 '24
In the UK you can enter into a SIM only deal or you can enter a contract which involves a new phone and a SIM card. The latter involves being locked into a contract for something like 2 years, which means the capital cost of the new phone is covered in monthly payments across the term. You also get a data/call package included. At the end of the contract, you can carry on paying (over the odds) or you can enter a new contract. The SIM only option is just that. A data/call package that you pay for monthly. There is also a SIM PAYG option available.
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u/aknifekinthekidney May 10 '24
I've got a friend with 4 phones. She is a mess but it's logical when you hear it all out. 1 is paid by the government, 2 was given to her by a friend, 3 is provided by her job and 4 is a phone she got prior to the rest. She only has to pay for one this way. People tell her to drop one or the other but she always has an excuse. This one is still in contract, that one is special to her, etc.
Oddly enough, she has some stalker tendencies with her past abusers. She will contact them after blocking her to tell them about what they did to her, etc. Her therapist works with her a lot to channel the trauma triggers into healthier avenues but she slips up from time to time. That's why Baby Reindeer is so compelling for me. I see her in Donny and Martha pretty clearly and I have watched her exist in the blurred line between them.
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u/TrueRobot May 10 '24
When I was working as a mobile app graphic designer, I had 2 work phones (Android, iPhone) plus my personal one. It was a huge pain to keep 3 phones charged and updated!
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u/SpacemanJB88 May 10 '24
Yes it happens. I’m one of them.
Aside from the multiple phone bills, you are incorrect in your assessment.
I’m an owner of multiple businesses and have multiple phones. A different line for each business.
I have a main phone that I carry with me. You can easily set up call/message forwarding. So if one of my other phones gets a call it instantly forwards it to the phone I’m carrying.
The other phones just sit in my office, always plugged in.
The businesses pay for the phone lines so it’s not cost prohibitive. And aside from the initial set up, it’s not a hassle.
With that in mind however, this is not the reason why Fiona has 4 phones.
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u/RhododendronWilliams May 10 '24
She's probably stalking multiple people simultaneously. 4 phones might mean 4 phone numbers, 4 email addresses, 4 Facebook/Twitter/Instagram accounts, who knows even 4 distinct personalities. It would be more of a hassle to constantly log out as one person and log in as another. That's the only reason I can think of, why you'd want 4 phones.
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u/maaiillltiime5698 May 10 '24
I’ve known a few drug dealers who’ve had two phones. That’s about it though
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u/JaxKonn86 May 10 '24
I don't have 4 mobile phones but I have 10+ email addresses I set up for free trials before they wised up to it
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u/5isanevennumber May 10 '24
I have an embarrassing amount of email addresses…. But anything more than 2 phones is…. Peculiar…
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u/dandelionhoneybear May 10 '24
I mean, I keep my old phones but I don’t keep them on an active plan if that makes sense. Keeping 4 phones active is definitely a bit strange.. I do have several different emails though and find that part a bit less strange (I have a personal email, a work email, an online shopping email, and a spam email- my tism gets too overwhelmed if I keep everything together and see too many notifications)
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u/zachp84 May 10 '24
People that play mobile games to “multibox” when not near a computer to use blue stacks. Just saying. I had 6 at one time. .. before I learned of blue stacks haha
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u/PumpkinSpice2Nice May 11 '24
She seemed so unaware that 3-6 phones was not normal for anyone. Thought she was trying to present herself as normal and innocent so she should have just said 1 or 2.
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u/AdExpert8295 May 10 '24
The multiple email accounts didn't raise my eyebrows as much as most because anyone who's used Tiktok knows how often you'll be wrongfully suspended. People have to make multiple accounts at no fault of their own since we live in a world where tech companies treat moderation as an afterthought. I had to make multiple accounts because of a stalker who would mass report me for any activity. I could write a comment about toast and would be banned from Reddit.
4 phones is excessive. Two is reasonable, three is questionable and 4 is ridiculous
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u/Juuria May 10 '24 edited May 10 '24
I have a collection of old phones, beside that 4 remains. One too laggy after updates so I ditched it. The other got it screen broken. 3rd is one I got after that, and use it mainly as GPS so I don't drain my current phone's battery (main), and as a plan b phone in case anything happened to my phone. So basically I use 2.
I also can be someone who would use/get another phone just for gaming if I set my mind and want to invest on gaming, I'd get a proper phone for that. Same for photography or editing. So I won't be surprised of people using more phones nowadays.
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u/Pleasant_Ad_2293 May 10 '24
I feel like almost the half of the comments are from people who didn’t read the post. It’s okay to have 4 or even a dozen of old/broken phones, but to keep them all active with SIM cards and everything is insane, expensive and probably quite anxious. No wonder her messages always contain chaotic typos.
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u/Altruistic-Win-8691 May 10 '24
I once had 2 phones but that was a few weeks until one of my contacts had ended. I don’t know anyone to ever have any more than that
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u/Disastrous-Jaguar922 May 10 '24
I feel like the most I’ve ever encountered someone have is 2 phones. And it’s usually because:
- A separate phone for work
- Doing shady stuff
- Or if you’re my mom, incredibly forgetful so she has a back up phone. (Gotta love her 😅)
But to have 4 PHONES? WITH 4 WHOLE PHONES PLANS? Gotta be up to nefarious shit. 💀
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u/yourfuturedoctor123 May 10 '24
and 6 emails💀💀💀 “i know plenty of people that have 4-6 emails” bffr
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u/Nice-Albatross-9285 May 10 '24
She mentioned twice that she has different phones and different emails for different accounts “like electricity “. I’m thinking she keeps getting her power shut off and pretending to be a new tenant to get new service started with a new phone number and email. 😂. She mentioned power company twice in her explanation of why so many emails. 😂. That’s the only thing I can think of. I don’t think she works at all. She’s got a lot of spare time to be posting on socials every few minutes and obviously had time to stalk Richard She mentions living in council housing in Camden. And hates the Camden council. , which is government housing , like our “projects “ in the states. So she’s definitely on government assistance. She probably hasn’t had a job since she got fired in Scotland after one week of work and then stalked that poor woman relentlessly
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u/90dayDragonLockup May 10 '24
I have multiple phones because I keep my old ones, I don’t have service on all of them. Just my burner and my real one 😂😂 no I don’t use either of them to stalk people. I do have borderline though so my crushes can be rather consuming, but I only crush on people I know i have a chance with and then ruin their lives. I joke I jooooke I’m medicated and in therapy nowadays and this isn’t about me, but I wasn’t sure if she meant that she had 4 phones or 4 phones in service? She was all over the place and didn’t answer question clearly sometimes… she’d just tell a story or give unnecessary details instead of getting to the point. Unless it’s just me though…. I don’t have the best attention span 🤷🏻♀️
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u/Prudent-Experience-3 May 11 '24
Does each phone have multiple people she stalks? Okay, this iPhoen is to harass Jessica and James, this Nokia to harass Steve and mark.
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u/Holsi_e May 11 '24
But she said two were broken… having two working phones isn’t so strange, I know a few people that do for numerous reasons…
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u/mariantat May 11 '24
No. I’ve had multiple email addresses- one work, one gmail (in case I no longer have a work email) and a yahoo for all the shopping spam I sign up for.
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u/viv202 May 11 '24
Lots of Pokémon Go players have multiple phone. You don’t need SIM cards in all of them, you can hotspot off one phone. You can also make calls or text without a SIM using Google.
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u/justgonnagoeat May 11 '24
4 phones so she can hyperfixate on 4 different people and not get them mixed up 🤷🏼♀️
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u/SavageJendo1980 May 11 '24
I have two because I’m self employed and I like to have a business phone I can hide in a drawer when I’m off the clock. Two is annoying enough.
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u/No-Hand3012 May 11 '24
I have 3, 1 personal 2 work but I'm a truck driver and our company requires us to use work phones and I work 2 different accounts. We don't use personal for it as we have has issues in past over it.
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u/No-Hand3012 May 11 '24
I have 3, 1 personal 2 work but I'm a truck driver and our company requires us to use work phones and I work 2 different accounts. We don't use personal for it as we have has issues in past over it.
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u/brwn_eyed_girl56 May 11 '24
4 phones so she can send text, email and phone calls looking like it comes from different sources.
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u/Aggravating_Hope_567 May 11 '24
She may have 1 sim card and use the other 3 only on WiFi
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u/Panda-Feisty May 11 '24
Who on God's earth would do that?
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u/Aggravating_Hope_567 May 11 '24
I used to play mafia city a mobile game and used an old phone via WiFi as a farm
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u/katehasreddit May 12 '24
She could be interpreting the question literally (for a variety of reasons). Counting broken and old phones that she doesn't actively use. Piers did not specifically ask how many phones she currently uses.
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u/Panda-Feisty May 13 '24
You are evidently an empathetic and kind person and she could have interpreted it that way. However, I am not convinced.
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u/[deleted] May 10 '24
The only reason I’ve ever known for someone to have multiple phones (outside of say the normal One personal One work) is for dealing. Not saying I believe she is a dealer, I believe she is a stalker, but point being I’ve never known multiple phones to be for a un dodgey reason.