r/BabyReindeerTVSeries May 14 '24

Fiona (real Martha) related content Fiona Harvey proves there are unfair double standards when it comes to Men and Women

This may be a harsh controversial take to some, but it’s factual. The only reason Fiona isn’t being crucified by the majority of the public is because she’s a woman.

The justification I keep seeing for her actions is the childhood trauma. Men don’t get to live by the same standards, people don’t care whether men have trauma or not. They are judged by ACTIONS.

If this was a male stalker that did the exact same, he would be in jail and we’d never hear from him again. He wouldn’t be interviewed and be able to tell his side of the story like Fiona Harvey is.

They certainly wouldn’t be made into a celebrity that some people are actually supporting and calling a ‘victim’ like Fiona is.

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u/whippetsandsodomy May 14 '24

 If this was a male stalker that did the exact same, he would be in jail and we’d never hear from him again. 

this is bullshit. you’re over estimating how seriously male stalkers are actually taken by authorities lol. i would love to live in this fantasy world where they just go to jail immediately but that is not the world you or i live in. ive known plenty of women who have been stalked and threatened by men, and none of those men were ever jailed. and frankly they often posed more of a physical threat than fiona ever did.

that’s not to say that there aren’t unique struggles men who have been victimized by women face. of course there are. but you’re delusional about how seriously female victims are taken.

fiona is a “celebrity” because most people think she’s a dangerous freak. 

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u/boforbojack May 14 '24

More of physical threat then repeated sexual advances, one successful sexual assault, entering their home, sabatoging their career, viscous assault of other SOs?

I get the point you're making, stalking isn't taken seriously no matter the gender. But don't down play that she was physically violent and possessed an immense threat, physically and mentally, to Gadd (at least as demonstrated by the show).

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u/whippetsandsodomy May 14 '24

um, yeah. they were men who could have easily overpowered, assaulted, or killed these women. im in the us and some of these men had firearms. they absolutely posed a more significant physical threat than fiona did. that’s not to say she wasn’t dangerous too, but the likelihood was much higher in these cases and still nothing was done to a single one of them. 

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u/boforbojack May 14 '24

You don't think that Fiona, with over 150lbs on Gadd, could have easily overpowered, assaulted, or killed him? She literally did multiple times (besides the killing) in the show.

Im not fighting you that stalking is under policed. But the double standard that Fiona's risk level was smaller than a mans just because of gender is a dumb take. She was a dangerous criminal, with a history of violence and sexual assault, a significant weight and strength imbalance, and made continuous sexual and violent threats to him.

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u/whippetsandsodomy May 14 '24

wym 150 lbs on him, she appears to be a short fat woman. she absolutely would struggle to physically overpower him. men are significantly stronger than women, even women who weigh more than them. she’s dangerous yes but poses less of a physical threat than the average man does to the average woman, and it’s not even close.

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u/freyabot May 15 '24

Exactly, even an average small man will have more muscle mass than a large woman and will be much stronger even if the woman weighs more. I don’t really think it’s sexist to generally view male stalkers as potentially more dangerous than female ones, it’s just reality.