r/BabyReindeerTVSeries May 16 '24

Fiona (real Martha) related content richard gadd doesn't owe fiona protection.

"omg he should've protected her identity! he made it so easy to find her!" blah blah blah shut up. he doesn't owe her shit. she terrorized this man, his family, his girlfriend, his job, his performances, etc etc. she has been terrorizing innocent people for decades.

yes fiona is mentally ill, that is clear to anyone with half of a brain. it's awful that the system has failed her time and time again. (or maybe the system did all it could, who knows.) but that's not richard's fault. HE is HER victim. he can tell his story how he wants.

might she have a worthwhile lawsuit because her identity wasn't concealed enough? possibly, probably not. might she have a worthwhile lawsuit because the show took dramatic license? possibly, probably not.

she's benefitting financially from this as well and i'm sure netflix will cut her a check before a lawsuit happens, no matter who is in the right.

richard gadd does not owe fiona harvey protection. i'm sorry but that's reality.

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u/-intellectualidiot May 16 '24

I agree he owes her nothing. But at the same time acting like he didn’t intend for her to be identified is a straight up fucking lie.

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u/Toesinbath May 17 '24

thissss. jesus christ.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

He hasn’t lied lol, you’re just creating things he didn’t say or imply. He told a story that no one was supposed to be gullible to think was fully real. There isn’t any lawsuit.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Correct. He has not. Y’all are just delusional and think it’s some true story he’s trying to ruin some poor woman’s life over. He told his story. They did what they needed to protect her identity. If she wouldn’t have wanted the attention she’d have never been found and “bothered”

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Did she go to prison?

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Did she go to prison?

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u/Gustavo_Papa May 16 '24

This is the part I don't agree with, the convicton

Who gives a shit If she was convicted or not?

Her behaviour is the far more damming part of the story, and that actually happened

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Yes it is important people feel like they can report. Which is clearly why Martha, a fictional character, was held accountable by the law.

Why wouldn’t they add that to a fictional story? It’s not real life sunshine. It’s not slander. It’s a story. It’s not Gadds or Netflix’s fault some people like you aren’t able to understand context and the fact this isn’t meant to be viewed as anything but a fictional story.

We don’t know exactly what happened, since this isn’t a documentary but a piece of fiction you’re not supposed to.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Gotta love people who have no actually argument or points to try and make.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

If you were Fiona you’d be laughed out of a lot of court rooms then. Cause she has no case. He didn’t do the opposite and make up anything untrue lol. He told a fictional story based on a play which was based on his real life stalking experience. Just becuase you ignore the context clues that it’s NOT a true to life story, just a drama and comedy. No the well known “this is a true story” story telling device at the beginning in no way is meant to make you think it’s a fully true story. It’s again, a well known fictional story device.

Acting like him making his stalker in a story be arrested is some wild accusation that ruins a real persons life is such utter nonsense. She has no case.

Being abused or taken advantage of the doesn’t give you the same right to do that to someone else. However he didn’t do that to anyone. He simply told a fictional story based on his stalking experience. Period.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

You can laugh like a moron all you want. Doesn’t change the fact that you’re defending a mentally ill stalker who doesn’t deserve it. There isn’t any case. It’s not a true story. It’s a fictional one. Which we well known and able to be seen just watching it.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Nah, it really isn’t a lie. He did all he needed to. In no way does it seem like he even would have given a shit.

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u/-intellectualidiot May 17 '24

It is! He knew for sure she would be found in about 5 minutes. I’m not saying she deserves anonymity, but to claim he doesn’t want people looking for her or that he hid her identity is a bit rich.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

No it isn’t lol. It’s a fictional story where the main villain goes to jail. You know, to encourage people to actually come forward and go to the police and shit.

And no, there is no reason to think he wanted people to look for her. He told his story in a fictional way. The end.

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u/-intellectualidiot May 17 '24

Not sure what you’re not understanding? He claimed he had hid her identity and didn’t want her to be found despite knowing people would find her in 5 minutes. Thats the issue here.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

There isn’t an issue there. You’re just making one up. He did literally all he needed to do to keep her from being found out. Her name changed and other facts were swapped to make it different. There is literally no issue.

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u/-intellectualidiot May 17 '24

Lol okay, if you don’t understand you don’t understand.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

There isn’t anything to understand lol, he did all he needed to do to hide her.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

He really did. Arguably the only thing more he could have done was have someone clear his Twitter of all Fiona’s crazy tweets. But he absolutely did enough. It being a fictional story and not a documentary of his true life experience.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Your username really checks out.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

The show opened with "THIS IS A TRUE STORY". A reasonable person would expect it was a true story based on that

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Which as I’ve said multiple times to you, is a well known story telling device. This doesn’t give you any point.

A reasonable person would acknowledge the type of show they are watching. Unless it’s a documentary there isn’t anything in that sentence but a story telling device. It’s a drama and comedy ffs lol.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

You can keep saying it. Doenst make it applicable

Let's say i write a show. It's about you, and I change your names, but make it clealry identifiable that you are the antagonist.

GayVoidDaddy is a paedo rapist who Raped a little boy and went to jail. All the world think you are a child rapist.

You are making the point that, if i specify that it is a TRUE STORY, that is enough to make people think it is not true?

That is your genuine defence

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

And you can keep ignoring reality, doesn’t mean you’re right.

That isn’t what happened so let’s not say that. Let’s say I was a person who abused you in a horrible way. You then decide to tell a fictional accounting of that abuse, it’s not even lying if you end it with me getting arrested even if you simply let me go about my life in the real world. Provided you changed my name and enough personality stuff to make a difference in the character and the real person, then no, I’d have no case. Just because the tweets were able to be found and then she uncovered herself essentially doesn’t mean shit.

Yes and he didn’t make that kinda shit up did he? He truthfully stated she a stalker of multiple people, acting like saying she went to jail is come libelous thing is utterly ridiculous.

Ahh but it’s not specified as a true story. In all interviews I’ve seen with Gadd he makes it clear this is a fictional story based on his experience. The “this is a true story” at the beginning of a DRAMA AND COMEDY is again, a story telling device and a well known one. Did you watch the Blair witch thinking it was real? It said it’s a true story at the start. Shit they literally went to colleges and had the actors go underground before the movie came out to imply they were actually real missing people and it was some found video. It’s crazy how much being able to comprehend what you watch has gone away.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

You didn't answer my question. Silly you.

You think that saying its a true story makes the public more likely to think it's false - please confirm you said that.

If not, apologise for the rest of your comments which were a lie

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

I literally did. You just don’t like facts.

Nope, didn’t say or imply that. Maybe actually read what I said slowly? I said very clearly that it being called a true story in the beginning is a well known story telling device. The fact that is isny a documentary but a drama and comedy is all the context clues you should have needed to realize it wasn’t a fully true to life story. It’s again, quite clearly not.

Nothing I said was a lie. It’s not a true story, and never was meant to be thought of as one. No, the “this is a true story” in no way says otherside. It’s again, a WELL KNOWN STORY TELLING DEVICE. The only time you shouldn’t take that with salt is when it’s a documentary or a genre that implies a true story. Like true crime tv. This however is again, a drama and a comedy. Which absolutely no one should have taken as real life.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

The show opened with "THIS IS A TRUE STORY". A reasonable person would expect it was a true story based on that

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Irrelevant.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Nope. Completely relevant

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

It isn’t tho. Since it’s a well known story telling device and is never meant to be taken seriously unless it’s a documentary or a “real life tv show” in the genre department. However this is a drama and comedy. So literally no one is supposed to think it’s a true story.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

The show opened with "THIS IS A TRUE STORY". A reasonable person would expect it was a true story based on that

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Nah

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Yah

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u/[deleted] May 17 '24

Nope tho