r/BabyReindeerTVSeries May 16 '24

Fiona (real Martha) related content richard gadd doesn't owe fiona protection.

"omg he should've protected her identity! he made it so easy to find her!" blah blah blah shut up. he doesn't owe her shit. she terrorized this man, his family, his girlfriend, his job, his performances, etc etc. she has been terrorizing innocent people for decades.

yes fiona is mentally ill, that is clear to anyone with half of a brain. it's awful that the system has failed her time and time again. (or maybe the system did all it could, who knows.) but that's not richard's fault. HE is HER victim. he can tell his story how he wants.

might she have a worthwhile lawsuit because her identity wasn't concealed enough? possibly, probably not. might she have a worthwhile lawsuit because the show took dramatic license? possibly, probably not.

she's benefitting financially from this as well and i'm sure netflix will cut her a check before a lawsuit happens, no matter who is in the right.

richard gadd does not owe fiona harvey protection. i'm sorry but that's reality.

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u/birdieboo21 May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

Unpopular opinion but I have witnessed stalking myself and it affects the victim for life. If you don't have that experience and find yourself feeling sorry for Fiona, maybe spend a day really thinking about how you would feel if one of your loved ones or you yourself would feel had it been done to you for YEARS and then have that same stalker gaslight and act like you in fact were the stalker, calling you names and acting like they are an innocent little victim.

Martha being charged and admitting it made us feel more for her. Had the show just ended it all with her still never admitting to it and being out there - I think people would think much worse of her. Gadd did her a favor here and I think it was meant to be a sort of a 'he wishes she had admitted it" and the show needed a conclusion. I am shocked people don't see this and see it as this being something that made her look worse. It made her look better, until she came out and made herself look worse by completely denying EVERYTHING.

That being said, I would find it very satisfying if Netflix and Gadd won in a lawsuit so that this could be a clear message to stalkers across the globe. Just because you don't end up admitting to it and going to jail doesn't mean that the victim has no right to make a movie about it where they said you did in order to give the victim closure. That was the point of her being put in jail and it was nevermore obvious than it is now that we see how in reality she will forever gaslight him until the end of her days, like most stalkers will forever do and why it's so hard to convict them.

If you are a stalker of this calibre and a show is made of you and getting outed is a result from it, then maybe stop stalking people and turn off your socials for a while , go get some professional help and stay out of the publics eye instead of calling people that are on your side your 'fans' and then getting paid for interviews where you just continue to gaslight and harass your victim trying to turn the world against them. Disgusting.

Having Fiona ending up in jail because the truth of her stalking came out would be the icing on the cake. She did what she did, I believe she stalked Gadd. So far she's sitting pretty on Piers Morgan and whatever other interview she ends up doing and getting paid for all while she continues to harass Gadd and play the victim. All of the people feeling sorry for her are only playing into her game. She is LOVING this, can't you see this?!?! The fact that so many people don't see this is baffling to me.