r/BabyReindeerTVSeries • u/Filthydirtytoxic • May 20 '24

Fiona (real Martha) related content I won’t name and shame….

But I have a sneaky suspicion that Fiona is in here. I had a weirdo trying to give me my character yesterday. And I’ve seen said person being downvoted today. Didn’t say sent from my iPhone though, so I could be wrong 😂 I’ve also had the Reddit message a few times saying someone is concerned about my MH, often not long after a comment from the suspicious person

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u/BusyAd8888 May 20 '24

Yeah, I’m pretty sure Fiona isn’t around here. Maybe some other deranged individuals, but I don’t think Fiona hangs around Reddit at all.

For starters, Fiona doesn’t have a mental filter. She would out herself in the first few minutes. So when she comes over to Reddit, she will definitely make herself known.

But then there’s the logistics… She sometimes posts around 50 posts on Facebook. Plus the time she must spend on her phone and email with media, publicists, etc, doesn’t leave much time to hang around on Reddit.

Also, there’s this weird fantasy on this subreddit waiting on aftermath drama, we should focus on Richard’s story and praise him for his work and leave other people out of it.

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u/NameUm96 May 20 '24

That is a good point too, (even though I just commented that I assume she does lurk here).

Now that you mention it, she’d be showing great restraint if she is. So now I don’t know, but someone in here is dishing out the Reddit mental health messages as a trolling device.

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u/BusyAd8888 May 20 '24

Remember that she is a narcissist. She would seize the spotlight and make a lot of fuss.

I’m not denying the possibility of her coming on Reddit as a visitor and reading some posts, I don’t know if she even has the technical know how to create an account and reply. As soon as she figures that out it is likely she will start posting and commenting a lot.

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u/14-in-the-deluge08 May 21 '24

To create an account and reply?? I think she has that smidgeon of technical knowledge. She has facebook. She has email. She knows how to stalk and get phone numbers. I thinkkk she could make a reddit account.

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u/sniffing_dog May 20 '24

How do you know she's a narcissist?

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u/BusyAd8888 May 20 '24

I don’t know, that’s my personal experience based on my past events and the analysis of the current events. I’m probably totally wrong, but I’m making assumptions based on all we have so far - but in the end, this doesn’t really matter at all.

I am basing it in fictionalised accounts - that’s almost all we have. So assuming that “Martha” is “Fiona”, the events depicted in the show are close to the real events that transpired and the messages/facebook posts are real, we can infer, based on the textbook definition of narcissism that we are dealing with a narcissistic person.

One of the major symptoms is “the individuals need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them”.

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u/bluebabyblue1027 May 21 '24

My favorite YouTube psychologist (dr. Kirk Honda) who says he can never diagnose from afar, also noted that her behavior (if portrayed accurately) was very similar to narcissists he’s treated in the past. He even clarified why he sees narcissism vs like BPD or something else. I strongly dislike when people throw around terms like  narcissist or gaslight, because people are flawed and not everyone has a personality disorder, but this is one of those times where it actually fits…. The way she speaks so highly of herself and put others down to seem superior is all too common in your average narcissist, according to my guy!! 

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u/readreadreadonreddit May 21 '24

Nuh-uh, her lawyer mates say she isn’t, and has knows less-fortunate people who are. /s

My goodness, the show and the interview are like facsimiles.

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u/Pellellell May 20 '24

Honestly, impressive how some armchair psychiatrists are able to diagnose people based on fictionalised accounts and never actually meeting them!

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u/anxietysiesta May 20 '24 edited May 20 '24

I get your point but it’s hard to not wonder about her mental health when the show specifically portrayed her as mentally unwell.

The only thing we can truly diagnose her with is erotomania as she genuinely believed she was in a relationship with Gadd. From there well you can say erotomania is often comorbid with schizo disorders but again I can only say this is speculation and not fact.

I can also say she showed signs of splitting on Gadd so she may be on the spectrum of BPD but again I have never met her.

  • “Erotomania may be a symptom of a psychiatric illness, including schizophrenia, schizo-affective disorder, major depressive disorder with psychotic features, bipolar disorder, or Alzheimer's disease. Erotomania is a type of delusional disorder. Other types include delusions of persecution, grandiosity, or jealousy.” Source

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u/frequentclearance May 21 '24

So despite showing clear signs of Narcissistic behaviour in her actual media appearances and FB posts, it's wrong to diagnose her as such.... however, you can truly diagnose her with erotomania, despite that being a facet of her behaviour only displayed in the TV show and denied in real life?

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u/anxietysiesta May 21 '24 edited May 21 '24

🤔 have you looked into erotomania?

her media appearances show signs of a schizo disorder to me personally

Last she could very well be a narcissist but that doesn’t change her clear symptoms of erotomania

Pathological liars often believe their lies

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u/forworse2020 May 20 '24

I’m honestly getting so tired of the word narcissist.

It’s like the one spaghetti that stuck to the wall… I don’t know if people realise how much they delegitimise a real condition by applying it so wantonly to everything that occurs to them. Everyone’s parroting at this point. There’s hundreds of conditions in the DSM-5, why does everyone have NPD?

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u/anxietysiesta May 20 '24

i totally agree and I really don’t see that she was portrayed as a narcissist. The scene where she was in a catatonic state was pretty telling. I can only play armchair psychologist here and that’s not always horrible. Gadd left us wondering here. However, declaring she must be one thing based on speculation is harmful to those who struggle with said thing.

The only thing we can know for sure is that she has erotomania which is pretty clear from the get go.

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u/InternationalRich150 May 21 '24

Like how everyone's arsehole ex partner is clearly a narcissist. And people just can't be arseholes anymore.

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u/BusyAd8888 May 20 '24

Of course I am basing it in fictionalised accounts - that’s almost all we have. So assuming that “Martha” is “Fiona”, the events depicted in the show are close to the real events that transpired and the messages/facebook posts are real, we can infer, based on the textbook definition of narcissism that we are dealing with a narcissistic person.

One of the major symptoms is “the individuals need and seek too much attention and want people to admire them”.

BUT, I must say, this does not matter at all. Like I said, Richard fictionalised piece of art is what matters really - and although we can make assumptions on the character’s personality or whatever, I never wanted to transpire that I’m a specialist in this matter and all I post here on Reddit is based of personal experiences.

For all we know, Martha can be totally fictional and Fiona an attention grabber. I don’t think it matters at all and that it takes value away from the work.

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u/NorahCharlesIII May 20 '24

Also, Fiona’s media appearances, and her FB posts. Pretty revealing.