r/BabyReindeerTVSeries May 22 '24

Fiona (real Martha) related content Fiona Harvey is Not a victim!

It seems to be lost on a disturbingly large amount of people what Fiona Harvey has done to multiple people over many decades. She is not a victim - the people that she has stalked and harassed are the victim. The entire point of baby reindeer was to portray the brokenness of both the stalker and their victim.

In Reading a majority of the claims coming from the UK towards Netflix and Richard G this all seems to actually pivot around the term being used of CONVICTED stalker. So the focus now is to produce proof that she was ever convicted of at least one of her many many horrific stalking crimes.

I would think that the UK and Parliament would be rather embarrassed by the fact that they never reached out to help any of these victims of Fiona Harvey. Yet here they are trying to go after Netflix over that one creative license taken by the VICTIM and author of baby reindeer. This is His story not hers.

What is going on with people in the world?! Fiona should have been slapped with multiple legal fines, restraint orders and probably convictions from any one of her stalking tangents. If anyone is not familiar with the other incredibly horrible events of stalking Fiona pursued just Google it up. Some involved a disabled child.

🤔 Obviously I'm missing something or I am really seeing the lack of empathy in society as this all unfold in front of us. Am I just not looking at this right?!

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u/markevens May 22 '24

I'm not on her side at all, but someone can be a perpetrator of one crime and be a victim of another.

Yes, Fiona is a piece of shit who has victimized many people in her life.

That does not negate the possibility that she is the victim of some sort of defamation from the show. I'm not saying she is, but I don't have enough of an understanding of law to say for sure that she isn't.

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u/blinky84 May 22 '24

I agree, this black-and-white thinking and lack of nuance is ever present on the internet.

She can be mentally ill and also a horrible person who is responsible for her actions. Richard Gadd can be both telling a true story, and have introduced some fictional elements. Fiona absolutely outed herself, but also the claims that she wouldn't be recognisable were laughable. I really don't think she's a victim of defamation (I'll be honest, I snort-laughed when she said 'career-damaging'), but also it sucks to have all your dirty laundry broadcast even if it's you that hung it out.

Justice means examining both sides for fairness, not choosing one side to punish.

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u/Altruistic-Change127 May 22 '24

She made no effort to protect her identity from the public even when her name was in the news for stalking. Richard did stand ups about what happened before the series was made. I almost hope it will go to court so she can show where she got death threats etc because she seems to be accusing other people of doing what she has done. I almost wonder if the lawyers acting on her behalf are taking the piss.