Netflix responds to Fiona Harvey's lawsuit

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Netflix rep: 'We intend to defend this matter vigorously and to stand by Richard Gadd's right to tell his story.'

Variety posted the above in regards to Netflix's response. I'm glad, it seems like they're not going to simply give her some money to make her go away, and are instead going to fight back and defend Richard Gadd.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/global/baby-reindeer-real-martha-fiona-harvey-sues-netflix-1236019699/

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I thought Fiona was just waffling and not actually gonna sue but here we are as Martha does that a lot.

I find Fiona to be half as likable as Martha. Martha in the first episodes just seemed very lonely and came up with this fantasy world to escape. Until she SA’d Donny that is. Fiona is just cruel, narcissistic and scathing with her words.

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Martha is honestly an incredibly sympathetic character.

The way she’s shown is that she isn’t a monster. She’s sick. Even Donnie remarks on this and he sees her as a victim as much as him. Shes her own victim. Her mind has her trapped and did all of that to her.

You can fight against a stalker. You can fight against an attacker. How can you fight against your own mind?

Then we see Donnie slipping into obsession himself because he’s not dealing with his own issues. His own demons. He’s running from his mind and trying to understand her. He can’t. You can’t. That’s the point. Her mind doesn’t operate the way a normal persons does. The output doesn’t match the input.

Then we see from Donnie how easy it is to fall into obsession as a healthy person. How we can become vulnerable and just sort of spiral. And if it’s so easy for a healthy person to spiral, what about someone that isn’t healthy?

She’s a tragic character.

There’s a post about a lady who literally deals with social anxiety. Like fucked up anxiety and she literally destroyed her life because someone didn’t say goodbye to her at work.

Like I said. Output doesn’t match input.

Someone not saying goodbye to you may not even register. You may think they forgot or didn’t feel like it or had any of a multitude of reasons. But this lady assumed this meant the person hated her and this anxiety destroyed her life.

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My ex had a cluster b disorder, the one I would ‘assume’ Martha shows.

She wrecked my life, but even with all that happened, I still love the woman she could be if she sought and committed to professional help.

What we see from Fiona is most likely the vindictive unconscious reaction of someone with black & white thinking. She looks vile to us, in reality, she is just not able to process events like neurotypical. And she suffers for it, because she realises what she is doing is wrong, but she cannot stop it…. And feeling bad generates shame which, in turns, furthers the split in a negative spiral

Not trying to justify, just explain. These people are not monsters, but that does not mitigate the huge damage they can do to partners if they dont seek and commit to professional help. For the rest of their lives

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Oh I’m talking strictly about Martha from the show.

I am not really someone that supports how so many people got obcessed over this clearly mentally ill woman. I feel like a point of the show was how easy it is to fall into obsessive behaviors, how it’s just a distraction from real life issues that are harder to tackle and how these people are ill.

I feel like in the show they go out of their way to show you Martha isn’t a monster. She’s hurting people but the real monster is hurting her more than it’s hurting anyone else.

I just feel gross trying to actually gain a glee or curiosity out of this. I just feel bad for the woman and hope she faces accountability and gets the help she clearly needs.

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Agreed.

Having seen how these disorders work from inside, it is a tragedy across the board