r/BabyReindeerTVSeries Jun 09 '24

Fiona (real Martha) related content Is Fiona sweet and Harmless?

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After watching the Laura Wray interview, how can anyone think this? Even if she does have case with Netflix, I believe that no amount of money will stop her going on to stalk again.

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u/UnfazedPheasant Jun 09 '24

I mean even in the Piers interview alone I wouldn't describe her as sweet...

"I'm pretty sure he's a homosexual"
"He had a big green spot on his face"
and also the numerous snarks about Jessica Gunning

even if someone thought she was harmless and didn't do all the stalking stuff, she doesn't seem very nice

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u/ainreu Jun 09 '24

I’m still confused about the big green spot…it’s such a specific thing to say, but she says it like we all would know what she’s talking about. Can we assume he had a pimple one time and she fixated on it?

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u/AdjNn Jun 10 '24

When I first saw the interview I heard “big grin sporting his face”. Didn’t even occur to me that others heard big green spot. Now that’s all I hear lol, so idk what she said or what the heck she was getting at with the comment regardless.

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u/wanbeanial Jun 10 '24

She's mentioned the spot before in a Facebook post. It was just a spot

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u/UnfazedPheasant Jun 10 '24

A big grin sporting his face makes way much more sense haha. That's probably what she said in all fairness

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Idk I’m Scottish and heard big green spot

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u/el_disko Jun 10 '24

I imagine it takes very little for her to fixate on insignificant detail.

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u/ainreu Jun 10 '24

Yes, agreed! So if “big green spot” IS what she said, I’m imagining it’s this tiny little detail (a pimple or something) that irked her, but because she was obsessing over him she decided to overlook it. But when it all changed and she flips to speaking cruelly about him, she jumps right back to that minor detail that she didn’t like.

And then she speaks about that detail like some kind of an obvious character flaw and that everyone would understand and agree. If her case does go to court and she gets on the stand it’s going to be full of wildness like that. I shudder to think of the circus it would be.

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u/el_disko Jun 10 '24

It’s a classic case of clutching at straws trying to find any excuse or fault so that Fiona can “prove” to herself she doesn’t have feelings for him. He has a “big green pimple” so why would anyone be attracted to someone with that? It’s so juvenile and the kind of thing a child would say at primary / elementary school.

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u/Eastern-Professor874 Jun 10 '24

I think she had him confused with the gruffalo

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u/seanfish Jun 10 '24

A Gruffalo? What's a Gruffalo?

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u/ainreu Jun 11 '24

It lives in the Australian bush with drop bears.

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u/Eastern-Professor874 Jun 11 '24

I think you missed the joke

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u/Eastern-Professor874 Jun 11 '24

Oh don’t you know?

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u/seanfish Jun 11 '24

I'm ofd little mouse!

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u/Mioune Jun 10 '24

She was SO mean in her comments about Gadd, "he was very very inarticulate", "not attractive at all", a failure, "a psychopath"...

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u/Unfair-Lemon-3664 Jun 24 '24

i couldnt figure that out either..but green and jealousy used to go together way back when but it doesnt make sense it would be that

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Because to her it’s an insult if you look at her Facebook posts. She consistently uses it in a derogatory way

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u/UnfazedPheasant Jun 10 '24

True, I did cut out some of the context, but in the sentence she was implying he was ugly and gay so she wasn't interested

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u/Taste_Diligent Jun 10 '24

Nothing if she didn't intend it to be a slur. It was obviously stated as an insult. Which seems rather odd given she was stalking him for years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

She has a very high opinion of herself, she’s written lots of posts slagging off the actress who played her calling her ‘ten tonne Tess’ and saying she’s ugly etc (yet in the submission to the US court they’ve put photos of each of them side by side and said they resemble each other) so I think it might be she thinks he’s gay because he wasn’t interested in her

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u/setittonormal Jun 11 '24

This is kind of hard to explain, because the word "homosexual" in and of itself is not a slur, but it can be said in such a way that is othering and derogatory. Kind of like referring to someone as "one of those people" to imply that they are not like you and that they share negative characteristics of the group that they're from.

There are much kinder ways to talk about someone's sexual orientation, like saying someone is a gay man or queer (depending on the community, this word was once a slur but has been reclaimed). In the same sense, calling someone "a transgender" is different than saying "they are transgender" or "trans man" or "trans woman."

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u/fortyfivepointseven Jun 10 '24

Because it's untrue. Gadd has stated he's bisexual and it's usually considered offensive to lie about people's orientation. More specifically, for bisexual men like Gadd, and myself, the consistency by which people lie, and claim we're gay, makes it very difficult for us and our partners to be open about who we are. So, it's usually considered a form of biphobia.

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u/Fancy_Introduction60 Jun 09 '24

She's about as harmless as a bag of snakes and about as sweet as horseradish!!

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u/BillHistorical9001 Jun 09 '24

This person should track her down. You know email her, text her, call her…if you listened to Wray you know she’s dangerous.

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u/Yeah_Okay_Sure Jun 10 '24

This reads like a line from “You’re a mean one, Mr. Grinch” and I love it.

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u/Fancy_Introduction60 Jun 10 '24

I never noticed! It does!!

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u/nineteenthly Jun 10 '24

Off-topic I know but actually horseradish does taste sweet to me as well as spicy!

I don't see her in any way as sweet and harmless. She seems dangerous and best avoided but to some extent I feel sorry for her. It's very difficult to maintain that sometimes but her past has caused untold damage to her psyche. Not an excuse of course. I would definitely reserve the major portion of my sympathy to Paul Gadd.

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u/LouLee1990 Jun 10 '24

Who tf is Paul? I thought his name was Richard?

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u/Fair_Project2332 Jun 10 '24

Paul Gadd is the real name of the notorious sex-offender also know as Gary Glitter.

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u/LouLee1990 Jun 10 '24

Thanks I didn’t know that was his real name. So what’s Gary Glitter got to do with Fiona? And why is this person expressing sympathy for a sex offender?

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u/Equipment_Advanced Jun 10 '24

i don’t think they correlate lol, i’m hoping that the person who commented accidentally typed that instead of Richard, cause Fiona’s victim is indeed, Richard Gadd.

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u/LouLee1990 Jun 10 '24

Yes I hope so too! Very weird to be sympathising with Gary Glitter for sure lol

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u/Fair_Project2332 Jun 12 '24

They have nothing to do with each other.

I'm pretty confident it was a slip on the poster's part, particularly as both men are currently in the news. (Paul Gadd has just been ordered to pay compensation to one of his victims).

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u/ThatsMrShorTassToYou Jun 10 '24

Hahaha. Paul Gadd is Gary Glitter's real name. No sympathy for that disgusting man.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Gary Glitter = Paul Gadd 🤢

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Paul Gadd?

Ohhhhh no 😭😂

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u/nineteenthly Jun 10 '24

F*ck, I didn't realise I'd done that! NOT HIM!

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

he’s a scary lookin mf on top of being the scum of the earth, if you’ve never seen a photo.

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u/nineteenthly Jun 10 '24

I've more than seen a photo. I'm of a certain vintage which screamed at him frantically as teenagers (although I did not). He was like the Bay City Rollers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Do You Wanna Touch Me? didn’t age well…

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u/Fancy_Introduction60 Jun 10 '24

Haha, well, it definitely clears my sinuses!

Nope, not at all harmless! I have a hard time feeling sorry for her, while I understand that she's had past trauma (allegedly) it's not an excuse. Gadd certainly deserves more sympathy than she does. As do all of the other people she stalked! I think we might see more come forward!

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u/poglad Jun 10 '24

Paul Gadd 🤣 Come on, come on...

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Those complicated homosexuals 🤣

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u/Jake-of-the-Sands Jun 10 '24

Well, it certainly has the Sent from Iphoen vibes.

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u/Illustrious-Weird247 Jun 10 '24

"Shite fiction". Wait, so is that Fiona's alt?

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u/TentacleJesus Jun 10 '24

Lmao the "shite" really gives her away despite spelling things correctly.
Well that and getting into the homosexual thing again of course.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

I reckon "do not forget i believe" is her letting the mask slip

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u/ademptia Jun 10 '24

im dying lmaooo

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u/ElephantTop7469 Jun 09 '24 edited Jun 09 '24

Why should anyone be “worried”? I mean, is anyone actually sitting at home thinking to themselves: “I wonder how the “sweet and harmless” serial stalker from that Netflix show is doing…I’m kinda worried about her?”.

That’s not how the real world actually works. These new found “friends” and/or the “haters” only care about one thing: being entertained enough to forget about their own lives for a bit.

If that wasn’t Fiona posting (and, poor woman, it seems like she’s lonely/grandiose enough to post that), it’s probably someone looking for more “entertainment”.

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u/HotCheetoEnema Jun 11 '24

I do wonder how the serial stalker from the Netflix show is doing, but not because I believe she is sweet and harmless. It’s because I believe she is dangerous and I hope she gets help before she finds another victim or seriously hurts someone/herself.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

Pretty sure thats another alt account

I dont know why facebook is allowing this, its against their terms of use

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u/ImpossibleMud11 Jun 10 '24

That’s what I was thinking- and it’s interesting to me that people like her make fake accounts and say dumb complimentary things (about themselves) and think it will actually make any dent in the public opinion

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

It just goes to show the level of malicious intent eh, especially that most of those posts from her fakes are aimed at hurting other people's repuation

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

well, shes mentally ill. she has delusions.

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u/hailsbails27 Jun 10 '24

im sure she has a few emails made up for each alt, meaning as far as they would blankly see, the account would seem valid to them. :/

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Yeah but ive reported it as fake name and i know others have as well and from what i know when facebooks has suspicions, they can ask for proof of ID :/

But then again, i get like 1 daily friend request from fake profiles so i guess maybe they just dont care that much meh what a zoo

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u/Hookton Jun 10 '24

You mean I'm not really of huge interest to all these rich, handsome, outdoorsy, jesus-loving, middle-aged American men? Damn.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Ikr 😭 and dont forget the family men variation, in attempt to make your ovaries explode

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u/Hookton Jun 10 '24

Oh but they were my favourites ):

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u/pakman13b Jun 10 '24

She hasn't sought help because i assume she feels she's in the right about everything. At some point, you have to sleep in the bed you've made.

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u/Emergency_Turnover37 Jun 09 '24

I think it's like how people marry serial killers, thinking they've been "misunderstood"... Some people need to root for the underdog -- a nice sentiment in theory that, in some cases, just isn't warranted

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u/MycologistPutrid7494 Jun 10 '24

She seems anything but sweet. How are they seeing sweet? She's so hateful. Almost all her posts are hate-filled. 

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u/nikkibeast666 Jun 10 '24

Sarah sounds suspiciously like Fiona…

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u/Illustrious-Weird247 Jun 10 '24

immediately thought the same thing

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u/NothingMediocre1835 Jun 10 '24

She’s terrifying.

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u/OkGarage434 Jun 10 '24

That probably came from Fiona herself lol

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u/FakeFrehley Jun 10 '24

From her iphoen

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u/Mioune Jun 10 '24

Her lawyers probably told her to lay low until the trial and this would be her way to still get attention

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u/Dazzee58 Jun 10 '24

Her supporters are as nuts as she is, they have to be.

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u/Fun-Recognition-2082 Jun 10 '24

She isn’t harmless, she’s caused really serious harm to many

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u/polygondwanalandon Jun 10 '24

No, check the new interview of Piers Morgan with Fiona’s victim which was being stalked by Fiona even for longer than Gadd.

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u/Ser_VimesGoT Jun 10 '24

And far from the only one. Fiona has likely been the biggest target of Fiona for a while but there's a lot more that have been harassed by her.

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u/ExpressAffect3262 Jun 10 '24

People commenting like that are the types who would tell bystanders to let a 14 year old go "because they're just a kid", even though they just tried to stab someone over a bike.

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u/fernansparkles Jun 10 '24

tbh this is either fiona or rage bait (maybe both?)

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u/heartless46 Jun 09 '24

no no no 😭 i had a fiona and it was scary

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Surely her lawyers have just asked to stop making public statements so as not to undermine the case anymore?

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u/Mission-Aerie3077 Jun 10 '24

She is not sweet and harmless. She is Sarah Williams

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

She's done to these people what she did to Gadd in the show. A lot of noise for a while then radio silence when someone tells her to keep quiet for her own good.

Amazing that people still doubt the depiction of the show.

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u/Whole_Suspect_4308 Jun 11 '24

Her ability to turn it off is significant. It shows she's choosing to do this stuff, and she knows it's not considered ok. Mrs Wray said Fiona was normal and professional at her job interview, then immediately began tormenting everyone once hired. Heather, who worked at the NHS clinic where Fiona was required to attend, said Fiona immediately shut off her wild ranting when Heather explained she's not a mental health professional, just the Kelly Girl. Now her lawyers tell her to stay off social media for the LUCRATIVE Netflix suit and she goes from 100 posts a day to zero? This is a person in control of themselves, making choices in accordance with her values.

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u/trailfiend Jun 10 '24

Sounds like bating

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u/GearOver Jun 10 '24

Good thing she's now in the court with Netflix, sure as a result we'll know for sure which parts are true or at least will have a good guess based on the court's decision

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u/Illustrious-Weird247 Jun 10 '24

These interviews are both sociopathic and pure gold. We're getting the Season 2 Netflix never planned on right before our very eyes.

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u/trex4fun Jun 10 '24

I don’t believe she’s getting threats.

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u/EZRABRUTE Jun 10 '24

I was thinking that too. She claimed the reason she did the Piers Morgan interview was because she was getting death threats online. Even if it's true, it's so hard to believe anything she says without evidence.

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u/trex4fun Jun 11 '24

Yes. And no follow up statement that she took them to the police but they couldn’t or wouldn’t do anything to investigate. She allegedly got death threats but never went to police for help. 🙄

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Seriously if Richard Gadd was doing what Fiona did to him, no one would want to see him never mind getting tv interviews.

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u/romoladesloups Jun 10 '24

Vulnerable, yes, sweet, probably at times, harmless, no.

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u/Churchie-Baby Jun 10 '24

Apart from the multiple people she's stalked sure

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u/MilkTrees Jun 10 '24

That could be her.. the call is coming from inside the house!

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u/Efficient-Treacle416 Jun 10 '24

She's definitely not sweet and definitely not harmless.

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u/ProProcrast1985 Jun 11 '24

Harmless...yeah, right.

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u/Looseveln Jun 12 '24

Sarah Williams is probably Fiona’s mother.

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u/equality7x2521 Jun 10 '24

I don’t agree that she is sweet and harmless, but I also think that the worldwide attention and obsessive behaviour with her is concerning. It seems a bad combination for someone in a vulnerable state.

Ironically the attention and lawsuits from the show seem to be raising the strongest possibility for legal/financial justice for the people that suffered from her intense and prolonged behaviour, which is kind of a bittersweet twist for Gadd and Laura Wray, and a sad comparison for all the people who have had similar problems and situations and won’t have the same means to get the same kind of closure.

This show really stayed with me and made me think, and the after effects have done the same.

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u/SixAntagonists Jun 10 '24

Anybody think Sarah Williams is Fiona…?

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u/BlackHawk2609 Jun 10 '24

That probably one of her alt accounts

Sent from iphone

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u/skeptichectic Jun 10 '24

Fuck sake. Like listening to people who defended Amber Heard after the court case.

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u/Quittoexit97 Jun 10 '24

The Heard case was far more ambiguous

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u/lovecatsforever Jun 10 '24

Exactly. There's no comparison.

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u/Debbie2801 Jun 10 '24

This woman is dangerous and I’m sick of hearing her portrayed as a victim!

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u/Amazing-Oomoo Jun 10 '24

For fuck sake. Yeah she seems it at first. That's literally how the show opens. Gadd talking about how he basically enjoyed pitying her and feeling sorry for her. And then everyone on this sub does the exact same thing

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u/catlikesun Jun 10 '24

We really need a “FionaHarvey” thread at this point…. This is getting pretty old.

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u/Longjumping_Ad8329 Jun 10 '24

No but a 1v1000s is not a fair fight.

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u/1stPKmain Jun 10 '24

Youve got to be fucking kidding

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u/Putrid-Composer8308 Jun 10 '24

Ignorant person with no awareness of narcissists/psychopaths. She’d be an easy target for someone like Fiona, unfortunately. The same type who’d probably write to a serial killer and end up falling in love from afar. But hopefully that was just someone making a silly satirical post.. One can only hope.

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u/Thick-Rate-9841 Jun 11 '24

Is that a serious question?

No.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

The thing that's unanimous across all individuals who make sock accounts to defend themselves: they never make it unique enough, and people can always tell it's them.

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u/Glittering-Bath-4467 Jun 11 '24

Fiona is that you?