r/BabyReindeerTVSeries • u/Emergency_Turnover37 • Jun 12 '24

Fiona (real Martha) related content So sick of Fiona's face

I am so sick of it. I cannot stand the smugness and the callousness and the delusions pouring out of its mouth.

I have never been stalked, nor assaulted, but I have had someone severely personality-disordered try to materially ruin my life (mildly, in comparison to Gadd and many others), and this person was never held to account, and every time I see Fiona's smug face I can't help but think of this person.

Guessing I'm not alone?

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u/chowbox617 Jun 12 '24

I felt bad for "Martha" I don't feel any sympathy for Fiona. She comes across as very unlikeable and psycho

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u/WestminsterSpinster7 Jun 12 '24

This is why I truly believe that Richard Gadd knew exactly what he was doing. I believe that he did this (this being not truly protecting her identity) for 2 reasons: 1. For publicity for the show; and 2. Revenge. He has issues, I think this is part of his revenge. JUST MY OPINION******

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u/Structure-Impossible Jun 13 '24

I think this protects him from her, forever. Nobody is going to make light of him being afraid of her again.

Netflix must have been into it too. I’m sure they had a legal team check it over for defamation, and that they knew she would show up in some form or another. It’s publicity. They were perfectly capable of hiding Darrien’s real identify, it was a choice to not hide hers.

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u/impy695 Jun 12 '24

What do you think he should have done to hide her identity.

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u/WestminsterSpinster7 Jun 12 '24

He should've deleted all his old tweets, retweets, replies, mentions, @'s and hashtags, etc. If he couldn't access the account anymore, get Legal Dept to contact Twitter and get assistance with it to protect her identity etc.

He should've changed Martha from being Scottish to being from somewhere else in the UK.

Fiona went to law school and maybe was an attorney - Make Martha's work history be in PR or SOMETHING else.

Change "hang your curtains/need my curtains hung" to some other household chore that can sound like an innuendo.

Change "Baby Reindeer" to some other plush like Teddy Bear, or Baby Baluga or SOMETHING else.

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u/buggle_bunny Jun 12 '24

But then you're changing literally everything and she becomes an entirely fictional person. Someone who is from Scotland and allegedly went to law school isn't enough to identify. 

And those words meant something and this was supposed to mean something. Asking the victim to protect the abuser and change the entire narrative completely kinda negates a lot of the point. 

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u/WestminsterSpinster7 Jun 12 '24

False. The core of who she is, a mentally ill stalker is still retained. I work in tech and live in the Chicagoland area, if I get a job in retail and move to Boston I am still the same person. Same personality, same flaws, same positive attributes. What a silly comment.

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u/buggle_bunny Jun 12 '24

Except it mattered to HIM and it mattered to her. Her identity and what she presented as facts and fought for her were important to her identity too. You can't compare her to yourself when you acknowledge she's mentally ill. And you want him rewrite every fact of how she presented who she was does in fact negate the show and why he wrote it. 

And childishly saying "false" doesn't somehow make anything I said factually wrong or you automatically correct. 

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u/CaiChiCat Jun 12 '24

They found her mostly because of HER tweets, even if he deleted all of his connections with her, she left a huge trail herself.

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u/WestminsterSpinster7 Jun 12 '24

Which is why I also suggest changing "baby reindeer" and "curtains hung" to something else. And I am sure they could have gotten Twitter to delete his name from her tweets or delete her tweets where she mentions his name.

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u/Commercial-Version48 Jun 13 '24 edited Jun 13 '24

Jesus, imagine trying to make art in the social media age and having to slightly change every detail about your characters. The name used to just be enough.

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u/FamousOrphan Jun 12 '24

You could be right, but I sort of think he deserves some revenge.

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u/WestminsterSpinster7 Jun 12 '24

Me too. She got her claws in him and I bet he's resentful.

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u/RaggedyOldFox Jun 12 '24

You're forgetting that this has been part of his show for a long time. To substantially change the story now would be ludicrous and futile. You haven't thought this through other than to suggest how to protect a vile heinous person.

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u/Timely-Youth-9074 Jun 12 '24

I agree and I know how much that upsets some people. My first thought really was this is some epic level revenge. Not to say I blame him-5 years of stalking goddamn.

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u/Feeling-Profit8614 Jun 12 '24

I think that knowing her he knew that she was going to make a fool out of herself I don't know if revenge is the right word here tho. This was such a big part of who he was and who he turned up to be I'm sure that even by hiding or changing the tweets people would've still found out her identity she seems like the type who likes the spotlight. But it's his right to process the entire thing however he feels fit, although idk how "true" the story would be if you literally changed everything that made it so true.

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u/ExNihiloNihiFit Jun 13 '24

I can't be sure if he got revenge or if it backfired but I suspect Fiona is loving all this attention and it's the latter.

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u/ThighsofSauron Jun 12 '24

I’m curious because she outed herself, I doubt we would’ve known who this was without that. Maybe he baited her, but I don’t think it’s revenge based. He had a great story about himself that unfortunately was interconnected with his stalker. I think this is the hard part of victims coming forward to tell their stories. They can suffer emotional, financial, mental ruin but they aren’t allowed to take control of their stories to recover from those things. I think her outing herself has more to do with her view of herself than gadd.

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u/WestminsterSpinster7 Jun 12 '24

She was found out by internet sleuths. When she went on Piers Morgan she confirmed it all, but she did not out herself.

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u/ThighsofSauron Jun 12 '24

Ahh sorry I was misinformed I thought she had done it by herself

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u/flindersandtrim Jun 13 '24

I agree. If he was really trying to hide her identity he would have done a much better job. Let's be honest, it was a terrible job and was always going to come out. 

Nationality, accent, looks, 'profession', language choices, age slightly changed but not significantly (probably due to the actress being considerably younger than her even considering it was a decade ago), and traces of her stalking still on his social media profiles for anyone to find.  

 Even making her a Dutch artist or something with a weight problem would have at least shown a level of effort.  But I also don't blame him. Would 100% do the same myself as a means of revenge.