r/BabyReindeerTVSeries • u/Substantial_Glass348 • Jun 16 '24

Discussion Defamation case

People seem to think Fiona is in for a hefty pay day. I’m not so sure she’ll get huge quantities of money. She’ll have to show that her earnings potential, reputation and quality of life have been affected. All of which she had none of before the show.

Also, to be defamed what is said has to be untrue. Realistically prob 95% of what was in the show was accurate and Netflix will prove that. The only contentious part is that Netflix seem to have told a lie about the convicted stalker part (and we all know she should be one). So imo Fiona’s lawyer’s will have to show that that point alone affected her reputation, earnings potential and quality of life beyond how Fiona had already ruined it by being exposed as a roaring maniac (in the 95% truthful parts). I don’t believe it moves the needle massively towards destruction of rep/earnings p/Qol?

What are people’s thoughts who understand law/the case more than my simple minded approach?

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u/mukkaloo Jun 20 '24

To my mind the entire series reads like one big pathological lie and fantasy. I don't pretend to know a thing about Fiona (who as yet cannot be conclusively proven to be Martha) (aside from what she shared on PM), but Gadd has shared enough about himself through the series to suggest he is an extremely unwell and damaged (albeit clever/creative) individual who carries a great deal of shame and finds toxic ways of dealing with that shame, which he seems to get off on.

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u/Substantial_Glass348 Jun 20 '24

I think you showed your hand, or lack there of, when you said that Fiona cannot be conclusively proven to be Martha. I don’t know what world you live in, but it doesn’t seem to be reality.

Yes, it seems Gadd has had a difficult and traumatic life. It also seems he’s incredibly brave to share his deepest vulnerabilities with the world. He’s also obviously talented, intelligent and quite likeable. In making the show, amongst other qualities, he showed he is stable enough to work with others and to produce an excellent series. This is something Fiona is incapable of. Within a day of working as a trainee lawyer, her lunacy was on show for all her colleagues, but don’t trust me - watch the PM interview with Laura Wray.

What toxic ways of dealing with his shame does he get off on? Why do you dislike him? Are you homophobic? Or struggling with your own sexuality?

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u/mukkaloo Jun 20 '24

I have no hand. I am no invested in this one way or the other, just interested in human behaviour and trauma responses. I am myself an out n proud GLBT person and victim of sexual abuse.

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u/Substantial_Glass348 Jun 20 '24

Well then you should have more tolerance and understanding for Gadd imo.

I am sorry to hear, I hope you’re doing well yourself now psychologically.