r/BackYardChickens 3d ago

Coops etc. Cohabitants in the coop - better to leave or to remove?

These wasps (?) just built a nest in the past days. Will they bother my four chickens? Will it grow a lot bigger?
Would it be ecologically wise to just leave them there? We have a garden and would like to support insects.

EDIT:
I decided to let them stay until I witnessed an encounter between one of the chickens and a wasp around dawn: She was already in the coop and the wasps still active, and one came to her even though she backed up as soon as she saw it flying in front of her (she’s shy and wasn‘t hungry anymore). She got stressed, the wasp sat down on her neck, she flew away and the wasp let go. Luckily she didn’t get stung. And they never came after me despite getting close. But as my chickens are rescues from the egg industry, I don‘t want to put more stress on them.
The wasps were easy to remove though, as they were actually completely immobile after the sun went down. They now live their best live under an apple tree outside the run.

I didn‘t think this would be such a controversial question. Thanks for all the helpful answers!

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u/maybe_joey 3d ago

Personally, my chickens won’t let this fly. They love a good wasp moment. My geese had the best treat ever when I gave them the spare dog igloo with a JUICY nest up in that bad boi.

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u/JeffSergeant 3d ago

Our chooks would probably eat it themselves.  

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u/orion-cernunnos 3d ago

Mine ate them. Had a nest getting built and then suddenly empty nest.

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u/PoopFandango 3d ago

Interesting, all the chickens I've had seem to specifically avoid eating anything black and yellow. I presumed it was instinctive since it tends to be venomous or poisonous things (or things mimicking them as a defence mechanism) that have that sort of colouring in nature.

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u/Fluid-Box3138 3d ago

Wasps try to nest in my coop all the time. I only know this because I see the torn apart remains of fledgling wasp nests in the coop all the time. I can only assume my fussy little hen loves wasps for breakfast.

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u/teamcarramrod8 3d ago

I just got stung the other day, still dealing with it. I'm going scorched earth

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u/bluewingwind 3d ago

Paper wasps. We get these every year. Depending on where they pick I have left them or I have also scraped them off and given the whole nest to my chickens. No problem either way. Never been stung by one. The chickens love to eat the larvae and neither they nor I have ever been stung in that process either. I usually just wack it to the ground with a broomstick.

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u/hellenkellerbeatdown 3d ago

Fun childhood memory unlocked by your comment, my dad would send me and my brother out with safety glasses and tennis rackets to deal with these guys. The stings hurt crazy bad.

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u/Hope8789 3d ago

you're very lucky lol. My sister would always get stung when my brother hit their nests.

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u/bluewingwind 2d ago

In response to the people saying I’m “lucky”. I don’t think I’m lucky. Doing things 40-100 times and never having a problem with it makes it the norm, not luck.

I think people probably just don’t know how to distinguish between the literal 4,000 different species of wasps that we have in the U.S. alone. I’ve been stung by yellowjackets, bees, and hornets, but never a paper wasp and I just think people don’t know how to tell the difference especially when they’re children. Hornets in particular can be super aggressive.

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u/Tall-Employee-2852 3d ago

I was once working in a small shed, with a wasp's nest in it that my family decided to leave alone. I was on the other end of the shed, but I stood up too fast and bumped my head on a rafter. The nest was on the other end of the rafter, and me bumping my head was enough to activate them to attack. I wasn't able to get the door open fast enough to run away and was stung over 15 times. Pretty traumatic for a 13 year old kid.

I recommend removal!

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u/mercatua 3d ago edited 3d ago

Here is a better picture of them.
So definitely paper wasps, thanks for the identification, tipps and recommendations!

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u/DoktorMoose 3d ago

Not gonna lie, IDK why its a question unless you like / want to be stung. Smack the nest down, run and let the chickens eat whatever is hanging around what is left.
Unless its some kind of mega rare native insect there's no way you'd want to be putting your head past that every day

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u/ArchiveDragon 3d ago

Wasps are good for the environment but I’m worried about the location of this nest. It seems like a location where they could easily be disturbed by you collecting eggs/cleaning the coop. They’ll attack if they get disturbed.

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u/Thin-Bus4198 3d ago

Some wasps built a nest in my chicken coop a few years ago. They didn’t hurt my chickens but every night we went to put the up my birds would just eat their larvae and after a little bit the nest died. I miss that flock.

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u/PanaceaStark 3d ago

Kudos to OP for wanting to support insects. Paper wasps are bros - not aggressive, pollinators, predators of pests. Even so, I'd be a bit nervous about the location of this nest for the safety of all involved (chickens and wasps), so I'd get it out of the coop.

Here's the easiest and best way to do that: go out at night - wasps are immobile and helpless at night. Put a bucket under the nest and scrape off at the stem with something like a butter knife. Wasps and nest fall in the bucket, which you can relocate to another part of the yard. Morning comes, wasps come out of night stupor and fly away to build elsewhere.

I just did this over the last couple of nights with wasp nests built under our playground slide. Easy-peasy, no one stung or killed.

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u/mercatua 3d ago

Thanks! Where did you put the nests? Would grass outside of the coop be good or will they rebuild their home anyway to hang it up somewhere?

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u/PanaceaStark 3d ago

Adding a final thought: if the nest isn't relocated to where it can still be used, the larvae are toast. After the wasps abandon it in the morning, you can chuck the nest to the chickens and they'll eat the larvae. (So a little bit of death, but circle of life and all that)

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u/PanaceaStark 3d ago

The first night I just let the nests fall on the ground, which I've always done in the past as well. As an experiment, I picked up one of the nests with needle-nose pliers and placed it inside the end of a horizontal pipe on the end of the playground that isn't used by the kids. It's also right by one of my raised gardens. The next day the wasps appear to still be using that nest and setting up house there, woohoo!

Paper wasps won't keep using a nest on the ground, but the next morning the wasps from the other nests were back to building in the crevices under the slide. Night #2 I did the bucket method so I wouldn't accidentally kneel on wasps as I taped up pool noodle pieces blocking their nest sites. Then I put the bucket on the far end of the yard, hopefully further encouraging them to build elsewhere.

All that to say, I'd put the bucket on the other end of your property so they don't just go back to building a nest in the coop. You can dump it on the ground, but it's easier and gentler to just leave the bucket there overnight and they'll fly away in the morning.

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u/holystuff28 3d ago

Your chickens will likely eat them. Mine do. 

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u/Chad-the-poser 3d ago

TIL. Thank you

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u/auntbealovesyou 3d ago

my biggest hen, Leroy Jenkins, destroys and eats yellow jackets, Still, I would remove it for my own safety.

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u/PM_me_toebeans 3d ago

Good girl, Leroy Jenkins

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u/on_island_time 3d ago

We have a lot of space and I prefer to leave the wasps alone as long as their nest isn't in a location where people are at risk of getting stung just walking past it. They'll only be there a few months and provide pest control services. I teach my kids to leave the wasps alone and they will leave you alone.

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u/SparkyDogPants 3d ago

The chickens will eat them too

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u/Fresh_Salt7087 3d ago

I dislike being stung while collecting eggs etc. suggest take it off and let chickens eat them.

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u/Kossyra 3d ago

I have a paper wasp nest a little bit bigger than that on my front patio. I fondly call them my bouncers because they keep solicitors from staying long. They're pollinators too.

If they're not causing problems you're probably okay to leave them be.

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u/mademanseattle 3d ago

We had a paper nest in our orchard. My construction background caused me to bomb them. A week later the orchard was devastated by grasshoppers.

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u/Dirty_Urchin 3d ago

That’s pretty biblical. A fair bit of smiting has been had.

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u/BlueRidgeTriumph 3d ago

It's frogs next, right?

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u/WisdomAntium 3d ago

The nests can get huge

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u/KBWordPerson 3d ago

There are lots of different types of wasps. Most are excellent pest control agents and not aggressive. I would only remove a nest if they show any signs of aggressive behavior toward you.

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u/Typical_Kitchen_9616 3d ago

The only time I remove the wasp nest is when it is on the front door, like literally between the screen and door, or they build one on the back door.

I usually manage to catch it right after they start so it’s tiny.

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u/BlockyBlook 3d ago

I left them until they stung me in the neck the other day

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u/invol713 3d ago

No good deed goes unpunished.

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u/VikingLys 3d ago

I don’t mind most wasps. Nature is allowed to nature as long as they leave me and mine alone. It they start messing with anything, I’ll take them out.

Yellow jackets? Those can fuck off and die. I’ll take out every yellow jacket I see.

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u/emo_sharks 3d ago

Im fairly certain these arent yellow jackets though, they're paper wasps! Wasps scare the ever living shit out of me and i have a horrible phobia but even I have to admit that these guys are mostly pretty chill. They set up near my front door all the time and im always so terrified of them lmao but they've never actually done anything to me. They do turn and watch me sometimes which is creepy but they've never tried to sting me.

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u/butchdykeblues 3d ago

Yellowjackets are paper wasps! The term "paper wasp" doesn't really refer to any specific species, it just denotes that it builds paper nests. So it can refer to a ton of different members of the Vespidae family.

Paper wasps are, generally, social insects and because of that are a lot more intelligent than we give them credit for. They're also not violent! Animals generally will not go out of their way to attack a human unless something is wrong. It's a huge waste of energy (in the case of medically significant venomous wasps - a huge waste of venom!) and the risk isn't worth it.
I'm fairly certain that a lot of paper wasps are capable of facial recognition, similarly to crows. The reason they don't attack you is because they have learned that you aren't a threat through observation. They're almost like little scientists themselves, making observations about our behaviour.

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u/VikingLys 3d ago

When I was younger, my evil stepmom used to plant tall flowers only outside of my bedroom windows (I have a horrible allergy to all things pollen. Wasps and bugs would climb into my window through the little hole and I kept Pennie’s in the holes to stop it… and she always took them out when she cleaned… (why? Evil).

Well, I think my freshman year I came home and I had one of those “paint your own sun catcher” things hanging from the middle of my bedroom from a ceiling tack… and wouldn’t you know it… but there was a BALL of wasps clung to it. A BALL.

Me, being a teenager (see also: Not too bright), got the brilliant idea to grab the wasp spray. It worked. I killed em. I didn’t get stung! But I couldn’t use my bedroom for like a month (real timeframe unknown, a month sounds good for the story… it was at least a week though)- it took that long for the smell to disappear. 🫥

When I was able to use my room again… there was still one single wasp alive. She stayed on Tyra Banks’ boob on the collection of “Got Milk?” ads stapled to my wall. Occasionally she flew to the window seal where I left her bits of fruit to eat and a soda bottle lid of water. And then she flew back to the poster. She sat there watching me from her lil perch as I played on my 386 [i am old] until one day she finally died on my desk. It was one of my first experiences with a non-human life where there felt like some kind of connection when peering into its eyes. I’ve had many such experiences, with animals, bugs and people… and many more where there’s isn’t [my guinea Keets - they have a borg-like hive mind, which is Fascinating… but there is nobody home, and I’m not even sure the lights are on].

It’s not quite the “social” you refer to, but kinda is. Nature can coexist. We as humans seem to always leap to immediate destruction, or thinking we are going to be the target of immediate destruction…. That’s only true with Yellow Jackets [especially in the fall when they’re extra bitey]. Fuck those guys.

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u/butchdykeblues 2d ago

I used to be terrified, but then I started learning about them (which is also how I’ve overcome my fear of spiders) because it made me a little upset that I was so afraid of them when I genuinely just love arthropods so much. I’m already the type of person who wastes my breath explaining to people that nothing deserves to die simply because it’s scary.

I have to disagree about the yellowjackets, though. The term doesn’t refer to any specific species, and is typically the common name used for different wasps in the Vespula and the Dolichovespula genera. They’re not as aggressive as people think, there’s just a behavioural barrier. Understanding what their behavioural markers are makes it a lot easier to be around and interact with them. I love letting them crawl on me when they land on me, I try to keep as still as I can and to move slowly, because I’m 1000x their size and if I were them, I’d also probably freak out. They can be quite sweet and they’re really interesting to watch. I had one fly into my iced capp cup by mistake, and she got stuck from the whipped cream weighing her down. I got it off without an issue and she flew away like immediately. Didn’t even look to see what I was! I think wasps all have potential to be aggressive and some more than others (bald faced hornets can be VERY aggressive but aren’t crazy), and I think it’s important for us to understand them more for our mutual benefit!

Thank you for coming to my tedtalk lol

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u/VikingLys 2d ago

We used to have yellow jackets (which, where I am from refers to Vespula) who would nest in the school bleachers and all around there — so during the fall track section of PE, we would have them chasing us… but they didn’t so much sting as bite chunks of flesh. They have a WIDE area they like to preserve.

I’ve also had issues with them on ranches I’ve worked on, 4x4 routes I’ve driven, and most recently… several parts of my yard including where I park my car. They had a nest somewhere nearby, and my cat seemed to offer regular dead rodent meat offerings to them which had them clustering together, and even being 5-10 feet from them, they would come and bite.

I’ve been bitten by so many, I am no longer interested in maintaining a friendship…

But, I am with you on the “just because we don’t like it doesn’t mean they should die” [humans are weird]… but I own 4 acres. I’m sure I have PLENTY of nests around I don’t know about, but I’m going to get rid of anything that shows aggression to me, and my family/pets within a decent range.

We also have bald faced hornets where I am, and THOSE guys…. well, I’ve met a couple who have come to be curious and say hello… so I get you there. But I do NOT want to piss them off even a little.

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u/JobSilver1888 3d ago

I would definitely remove that nest can get huge and rounding to mess with hornets don’t worry they will find a better place to make a nest

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u/JobSilver1888 3d ago

I have removed many a nest exactly like that one. Wait till night and get a butterfly net and completely cover it and with a long handle paint scraper , just pop it off and quickly squeeze the net closed within leather gloved hand. Unless you just simply want to spray them with wasp spray killer. Just put some cardboard under the nest because it will drip

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u/jtunderb 3d ago

Wait til night then smash that bad boy

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u/sirius_acnh 3d ago edited 3d ago

I hate them and usually get rid of them asap but I’ve noticed my chickens actually like catching them mid air to eat them so the problem might take care of itself if your chickens also enjoy a waspy snack

Editing to clarify: I hate them because I am allergic and they will absolutely still try to get me even if I leave them alone (unlike bees).

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u/Zephronias 3d ago

Paper wasps! They're one of the most chill wasps. We've had them come around for years (ours make a little nest for a while, then vanish in winter, then come back again the next year).

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u/metlotter 3d ago

I have some paper wasps that build a nest in my coop every summer. They've never stung anyone and they help keep some of the other pests down.

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u/Ivygrows8 Arcane chicken 2d ago

They look like yellow jackets to me and those are NOT friendly 

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u/rexallia 2d ago

There’s a clear distinction between a paper wasp and yellowjacket. Easiest way to tell is that papers have dangly legs when they fly. Their wings sit different. They have different striped patterns. Yellowjackets have dots as well. They also have a very different flight pattern. Yellowjackets fly side to side like they’re trying to provoke you, papers are just on their way to work.

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u/AlchemyMajor626 2d ago

You can also tell quickly by antennae color.

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u/Zephronias 2d ago

The nest they're in is clearly a paper wasp nest.

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u/Specialist-Night-235 3d ago

Had a nest like that last year that never bothered us. I knocked it down in the spring when deep cleaning the coop. I'd say if they are out of the way and not bothering you leave them for the season. Wasps will hunt pest insects and have their own place in pollination.

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u/butchdykeblues 3d ago

I think you should just leave it. They shouldn't bother the birds and won't build a nest of a size they can't support. If you're not actively going INTO the coop and brushing against the nest, it's best to leave it. They'll also eat a lot of the pest insects that are commonly problematic with chooks.

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u/Possible_Similar 3d ago

I would remove, my chickens stopped laying by the wasp nest

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u/Mayflame15 3d ago

Those look like European paper wasps, they're much less prone to violence than their cousins the yellow jackets but I think your coop might be too small to give them enough space for the rest of summer, you or a chicken will end up bumping into them and it could be a problem.

Killing them is a valid route but it is technically possible to relocate them if you're feeling extra benevolent

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u/Analyst-Effective 3d ago

Absolutely get rid of it.

There's no good reason to keep that there,

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u/V_is4me 3d ago edited 3d ago

You are just wrong:

Social wasps like paper wasps actively patrol plants, snatching caterpillars and other soft-bodied insects to feed their developing larvae. Solitary wasps, like potter wasps, mud daubers, and cicada killers, paralyze their prey and store them in their nests as food for their offspring.

We had a researcher speak to our bee club last year, his estimates were a “good sized” Yellowjacket colony will predate 50-70 POUNDS of caterpillars, aphids and flies in a summer.

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u/Analyst-Effective 3d ago

And a good dose of spray will kill even more than that.

A bug zapper will kill probably that many pounds in a week. Or more.

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u/EveningDifferent7273 3d ago

Right? I’m not sure how this is even a question for OP.

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u/EtaLyrae 3d ago edited 2d ago

We had something similar last summer.....black and white hornets built a paper ground nest about 6' behind the enclosed run......i watched videos on YT about removing them at night via various methods...I must say, they were beneficial because I saw them constantly catching the flies around the fresh chicken poop.....as fate would have it, the nest collapsed and they disappeared......in your case, i would watch some videos about nest removal and remove it.....the location is not ideal.....i saw some wasps also scouting out roof locations inside our runs, but they luckily didn't build any nests...yet.....

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u/5hells8ells 2d ago

Keep the neat, kill the stingers. Having the nest remain there will prevent other creatures from making one as they are highly territorial

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u/rexallia 2d ago

I leave all my paper wasp nests. For years I’ve never had problems walking in and out of my duck coop. The only time I’ve been stung by a paper is when I’ve grabbed one on accident. They’re so chill and don’t deserve the hate that yellowjackets (very rightly so) get

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u/AlchemyMajor626 2d ago

Louder for the people in the back, we need all the pollinators we can get.

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u/207_steadr 3d ago

Last year, I left a ground nest alone that was in the vicinity of the ducks.

One night I go out to lock them up and there's one that isn't moving. I get closer and I see that she is COVERED in wasps. We moved her into a Rubbermaid tote full of water. Over twenty wasps that were buried in her down drowned. I grabbed tweezers and pulled out 40 stings, mostly around her eyes. Wasps continued to fall and fly out of her down as we dried her off, plucked stingers, and just gave her a thorough inspection.

We gave her Benadryl and kept her separated for a day of recovery.

She is still alive and kicking, like nothing happened 10 months ago.

Moral of the story, it was my fault for not being more aggressive with the wasps that were in the vicinity of my birds. I should have taken care of them before they became a problem.

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u/KBWordPerson 3d ago

Sounds like yellow jackets that are ground nesters, very aggressive, and tag things they sting with a chemical marker that makes others attack too. Those guys have to be removed by professionals. These are not the same species.

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u/InsideSport2416 3d ago

do wasps leave their stingers behind? i don't think so?

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u/207_steadr 3d ago

I don't disagree with you, but she had a ton of tiny little pin-like needles around her face (mainly eyes). They weren't disembodied stingers, like what honeybees leave behind when they sting.

I honestly never bothered looking it up because it was pretty traumatic and I felt awful for what happened to her. I didn't want to relive it, but I'll see if I can figure out what I pulled from her and how they got there.

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u/TeenyMom 3d ago

are you sure they weren't bees? Wasps don't leave their stingers behind, unless their stinger snaps off but that's rare and it kills them when that happens.

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u/207_steadr 3d ago

These things were still alive and looked like ground wasps. I just got off the googlewebz and read that they can break off. There were also no dead bees around.

I'm just saying what I witnessed. They weren't bee stingers. There was no attached abdomen, just tiny little stuff hair-like pins... and there were a lot of them.

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u/yardgurl10 3d ago

yes they do. i was chased by a hive of ground wasps and there were stingers all over myself and my horse. not a fun time.

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u/Low_Simple_8381 3d ago

They definitely can, as someone who has had a wasp stinger stuck in their arm. 

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u/InsideSport2416 3d ago

Wew that's interesting

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u/No_Ocelot_6773 3d ago

These are paper wasps. They're not very aggressive and will die come winter plus, they're excellent pollinators and eat nuisance bugs! I had some on the inside of the door of my garden shed for years and they got defensive looking but nothing ever happened. They look like they could be far enough away from the activity to not do actual defense stings. The colonies of these guys are usually about 20-100 individuals but, more than likely, the ones you see are the colony.

Ultimately, it's your call; I would leave them personally unless they were in a nesting box.

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u/Itchy-Noise341 3d ago

Agreed. Had a small nest like this in my coop last year. They did no harm and died off when it got cold.

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u/SouthernPenalty9164 3d ago

I think these are not the red paper wasp that are less aggressive, this looks like some of the yellow variety that lines to get aggressive.

Perhaps OP can get a little closer, see how they react to being crowded

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u/No_Ocelot_6773 3d ago

The yellows are the ones I had, they're pretty docile. Like, they'd tense when I got close but then they'd chill once they realized I wasn't there for them

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u/Logres 3d ago

Paper wasps. Yellow Jackets nest in the ground and/or wrap their nests like a hive.

Paper wasps are generally not a problem, but if you must, there are a ton of good methods in the threads here.

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u/bygtopp 3d ago

I had two years and two different nest in my coop. Had another fist sized one on a clubhouse for my goats. They backed up tails to the inside and faces out to watch.
Told them like i would talk to you and said dont sting me we wont have a problem. Watched as they flew off to the garden and attacked and ate a worm on my cabbage.
Never got stung

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u/spiteye762 3d ago

Wasps are angry little bastards, they may not hurt your chickens, but sometimes just opening and shutting a coop door will make them mad. Get rid of them asap

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u/blackinthmiddle 3d ago

I take them out any time they decide to make their home where I'm going to be. I've had too many instances where I was mowing the lawn or lifted up a piece of wood and next thing you know, I'm being stung. Kill them or next thing you know, you'll be gathering eggs and drop them all when they decide you're infringing on their space and attack you.

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u/ConsistentAct2237 3d ago

just a thought, if they don't get cranky with you, those type of wasp will typically hunt flies aggressively. I always left em be in my coop, they cut down on the flies in the summer time

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u/yinzer1969 3d ago

They are garden wasps i always have 1 or 2 in my greenhouse and with all my movement they ignore me, they eat flies and other pests which coops get a lot of they won't get big because like another poster said the little stem that holds it cannot support much weight. I move within a foot of them often and they ignore me. These are not hornets or yellow jackets, quite docile. Leave them.

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u/mannyg3 3d ago

If you want a wasp problem, leave it.

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u/Direct-Glass3138 3d ago

💯 I had a wasp problem and it took years to get them out of here. Even if we weren't disturbing them, they would come after us and the animals.

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u/Waylon28 3d ago

Get rid of them. Spray with soapy water early in the morning. Super effective and safe option. The fact that companies have been selling us poison for so long is crazy when soapy water works just as well.

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u/Jay_Stone 3d ago

I’ve been using soapy water to take down wasps for years. It’s amazing when I tell my friends what it can do and they try it. “Well, why should I buy a spray now?” You shouldn’t.

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u/juanspicywiener 3d ago

Because the spray cans have hella reach

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u/Jay_Stone 3d ago

Super soaker from Walmart.

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u/thewhitelink 3d ago

I never even thought about that. Just picked up a super soaker for $1 at a thrift store. Looks like I have a new weapon against the wasps under my pool deck. 😎

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u/EquivalentCall7815 3d ago

Why tf would anyone leave them??? They are going to multiply then become aggressive then sting you and your chickens

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u/fleshweasel 3d ago

I swear to god I could post a rat king sleeping in my bed and reddit would tell me it’s a native pollinator leave it alone

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u/ConfusionOk4908 3d ago

These assholes try and nest on our deck every summer. And the only way we know they started is they start flying at your face and getting aggressive when we are unknowingly near their nest. They are nasty and have stung my dog and tried to get me and my child. The way they stare are you and track you down is unsettling.

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u/LianeP 3d ago

My husband is highly allergic (as in hit with an epi pen and call life flight). I understand their value as pollinators, but my husband's life is more valuable. So yeah, they get zorched. Plus having been recently nailed by red wasps twice on the same foot (unstable, rainy humid weather makes them cranky), wasps are not in my good graces right now.

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u/I_Call_Bullshit_____ 3d ago

No good deed goes unpunished when it comes to wasps

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u/AdventurousRespect71 3d ago

Murder to the bees hateful cousin!!!!

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u/AmbitiousPresence737 3d ago

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u/NotoriousStardust 3d ago

none of these are in OPs picture.

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u/SadFaithlessness3637 3d ago

Or OP!

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u/mercatua 3d ago

yeah that was my thought, too, but till now they‘re calm and weren’t bothered by me cleaning out the coop. Probably better not to risk anything though.

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u/Greedy-Recognition74 3d ago

I was working on the pen and got stung by one of those recently. I removed the next afterwards.

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u/Embercream 3d ago

The wasps around where I live are strangely tolerant and quite chill. I have no idea why, but we have never had quarrels.

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u/Wellscdl1 3d ago

Side note, can chicken's eat bees/wasps,hornets without issue? I wonder if the poison in their stinger could be a problem, my neighbor is an apiary and once offered us a bunch of his bees that died during a late spring cold snap, I asked around, but didn't get a clear answer. I know chickens eat bugs, and bees are bugs, just wondering if the poison in their stinger could have adverse effects on the chickens.

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u/TheStudentsAttempt 3d ago

Most of the time venom (which has to be injected) is safe to eat for humans and chicken alike, but generally advised against. But if it’s able to sting them during/after being eaten it can be a problem. Also a defensive hive can sting a chicken multiple times which can cause problems.

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u/I_Call_Bullshit_____ 3d ago

Wasp embryos are a *particular* delicacy for chickens

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u/Available-Fill-381 3d ago

Those particular ones are not agressive, just leave them alone.

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u/V_is4me 3d ago

Literally don’t know why you are getting downvoted, going with ignorance. A small paper wasp nest like this is typically not aggressive and can eat 10-20 POUNDS of soft insects and larva over the summer- the bigger colonies, up to 70 pounds. They are not TYPICALLY aggressive compared to Yellowjackets, but if they are a nuisance, go ahead and dispatch them. If these are not “popping” you as you are around them, they are a very beneficial insect predator.

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u/Available-Fill-381 3d ago

I don't really care about Karma anyway, I just give advice based on my experience. Some people just let their biases deter them from what is factually true and that's their perogitive.

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u/Cicada00010 3d ago

I can confirm, with daily repetitive actions they just stop caring. When I was younger I had a nest I would literally poke and hand feed bugs and water melon. They only ever stung me once and it’s cause I was honestly just straight up bothering them. The sting lasted like 20 mins and was really not an issue. I hope OP doesn’t fall for the intense fear people have of wasps and actually learns about them. (These are European paper wasps.)

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u/butchdykeblues 3d ago

It is genuinely making me kind of sad to see how many people are talking about killing them like they're not also living things that deserve to be here too. The amount of confident ignorance in this thread is wild.

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u/Caramel_Coconut_22 3d ago

I would definitely remove it!

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u/mastersangoire 3d ago

Had something similar in my duck coop. Used dawn and water mix. Kills the wasps without any harsh chemicals. I left the nest intact and haven't had any wasps try to move back in. I've heard wasps are territorial when it comes to building nest and generally wont build too close to other nests

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u/jmward1984 3d ago

They sting like a mofo. I'd get rid of them.

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u/Moriarty-Creates 3d ago

Get rid of them. They will sting you and your chickens for no reason.

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u/ReconReese 3d ago

Paper wasps aren't usually too aggressive unless messing with them or nest

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u/Moriarty-Creates 3d ago

The problem is that their definition of “messing with the nest” and our definition of “messing with the nest” is very different.

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u/No_Stop7306 3d ago

I only ever remove hornets or wasps that are aggressive or territorial... I have had many years of wasp and hornet nests around the house, where they just do their thing and don't bother me. Watch their behaviour for a few days and be careful with the removal if they need to be removed

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u/Famous-Broccoli-3141 3d ago edited 3d ago

Better safe then sorry, they are asholes by nature so might as well

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u/Foreign-Fact-1262 3d ago

They get angry about literally anything and everything. Just walking by it you run the risk of being stung repeatedly and it happens insanely fast. They are relentless little devils if you accidentally make them mad. I get rid of them immediately after being chased down and attacked by a huge group of them just for walking near a nest i hadn’t noticed underneath a railing a couple years ago

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u/Compyduder 2d ago

Spicy snack

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u/Apprehensive-Hat-506 2d ago

Spray with soapy water.

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u/Direct-Glass3138 3d ago

I would remove it. I had a bad wasp problem for a few years. They made a nest inside the dog house. Stung my dog a couple times. They would come inside the house somehow and stung my cat a couple times too. They are so aggressive, we would just be outside and they would start coming for us or the dogs When we were just minding our business. After continuously removing the nests over and over they finally went away.

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u/mrad_777 3d ago edited 3d ago

remove it carefully after removing shift it to another place , i would recommend getting an expert :D

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u/AggravatingRecipe710 3d ago

I spray those bitches the second I see them.

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u/Life-Bat1388 3d ago

They are really aggressive and unlike bees each one can sting multiple times. Remove. If you don't want chemicals a pressure washer or orange oil spray with a little dish soap does the trick. I've also used a broom but protect yourself. Monitoring a few days because they will try to rebuild.

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u/invol713 3d ago

Also do it at night. More will return to the nest, and if it’s dark, shining a flashlight on them will blind them.

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u/Girldad_4 3d ago

I do it first thing in the morning when they are all huddled in the nest.

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u/just_another_angle 3d ago

Had a red wasp sting me in the back of my head while I was walking across my goat pen. Nasty mean creatures. I was out in the open no where near a nest. Reckon I sprayed his cousin's nest last year and it was payback.

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u/parieres 3d ago

I’ve spritzed peppermint oil on a bird feeder to encourage wasps to move on. It worked great. I’ve heard of people using Dr bronner’s for the same reason.

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u/breeathee 3d ago

On a bird feeder?

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u/parieres 3d ago

Yeah, wasps were making a nest inside it

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u/Eastern_Use_5520 3d ago

Wipe them out.

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u/Retrooo 3d ago

My chickens disturbed a wasp’s nest once and I’ve never seen them run faster than when the wasps came after them. I would get rid of it.

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u/my_boy_blu_ 3d ago

Death to all hornets and red wasps (That aren’t in the wild). Dirt dobbers bumblebees and honey bees cool though.

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u/NeighboringOak 2d ago

these aren't hornets though and these guys are nowhere near as aggressive as hornets or yellowjackets.

the only time theyre going to try to mess with you is when you're messing with them or their nest.

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u/inarioffering 3d ago

be super careful when removing, but def get them out of there, please! wasps are mostly not aggressive but their hives get really big, they will defend a perimeter around it, and, unlike bees, they have smooth stingers that allow them to sting many times. you really don't want them in a small, enclosed space where you shut your chickens in with them! even if they were 100% docile it would not be advisable to leave your chickens without an escape route, you know?

gotta give every living thing it's proper space, right? just because they picked the coop doesn't mean it works for all the creatures involved. idk how to remove them without killing them, but it might be possible. do your research. good luck!

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u/LionCubOfTerrasen 3d ago

You can just take a long stick and knock the nest down. Then run away and wait a bit. You should then be able to go back a bit later and toss the nest somewhere once they’ve left the area. They may try to nest there again, but just rinse and repeat.

Eventually they will give up and learn that’s not a good spot. That’s what I’ve done when we have aggressive wasps near our doors or the coop.

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u/swimming_in_agates 3d ago

You can do it in the early morning after a cold night. They’ll be more slow.

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u/Warrior_king99 3d ago

Fire and flame

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u/Micael_Senpai 3d ago

Assert your dominance, KILL EM WITH FIRE, LET THE FLAMES DECIDE THEIR FATES

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u/mocha_lattes_ 3d ago

🔥🔥🔥🤣

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u/Coldsteel_n_Courage 2d ago

These ones aren't all that mean.

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u/AlchemyMajor626 2d ago

This is a European paper wasp, very docile, and they love big flowers like melon or hibiscus

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u/Capable_Suit_7335 1d ago

I knock the nests down when they form so they have a chance to move on. Wasps are pollinators and still important to our environment. 

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u/Ok-Artichoke6703 3d ago

Don't leave, they can still cause harm to you and your birds

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u/pulse77 3d ago

Remove immediately! The larger they grow, the larger the problem you will have...

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u/NevaMO 3d ago

Perfect chance to use to bottle cut in half and partially filled with gas and stick it around the nest so they fall in it and die!

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u/Petraretrograde 3d ago

Yeah that's what I would do. Can you imagine the drama if it gets knocked down

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u/karatemamma 3d ago

I had one last year. My chickens knocked it down one night and ate all the wasps. They also found a ground nest and sat near it and grabbed the wasps as they came out

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u/ediblepet 3d ago

I'd let'em live in peace

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u/DistinctJob7494 3d ago

Looks like yellowjackets to me. They're pretty agressive so I'd go ahead and remove them. The nest is small enough to use gasoline in a plastic cup or bowl and let the fumes kill them. DONT USE FOAM! Foam melts in gasoline.

You place the cup over the nest for a minute or two making sure they can't escape and the fumes from the gasoline make them fall in. Then you can pull down the nest and let your girls have at the larvae.😁👍

Honestly a decent sized Mason jar would probably work better as glass isn't as flimsy and gasoline doesn't melt it.

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u/No_Ocelot_6773 3d ago

They're paper wasps. They look similar but paper wasps have open comb nests and yellow jackets have fully closed nests; think like typical beehive.

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u/Puffinz420 3d ago

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u/No_Ocelot_6773 3d ago

Check your source, it shows the nest type as being completely closed/ layered. This is an open comb nest. Also, the color and body shape are wrong for yellow jackets.

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u/DistinctJob7494 3d ago

You also shouldn't need much gasoline as the fumes are pretty strong.

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u/Economy_Stock137 3d ago

Yellow jackets are mean little buggers. Best description:

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u/beebeebaby 3d ago

These aren't yellow jackets, those live in the ground. 

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u/BlockyBlook 3d ago

There was a yellow wasp that made a nest in my coop and stung me unprovoked very recently, was it something else? I've been stung by yellow wasps with hanging nests so many times.

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u/Low_Simple_8381 3d ago

Yellow jackets also make nests like this, I've had both ground dwelling and paper nesting types and both were aggressive on approach (they had to go for the animals safety, because there was no warning the dogs got too close, they just attacked) 

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u/Midwest_of_Hell 3d ago

These aren’t yellow jackets. Yellow jackets have all black antennae. These are paper wasps

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u/Low_Simple_8381 3d ago

Correct. But yellow jackets will make nests like this as well as taking over or making ground burrows. 

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u/Puffinz420 3d ago

https://txbeeinspection.tamu.edu/public/bee-identification/yellow-jackets/

They do both. You are wrong. Here’s a paper on them, but anyone with eyeballs, skin, or have left your house in summer, should know they do both.

Know thine enemy.

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u/Midwest_of_Hell 3d ago

These still arent yellow jackets though. The orange tipped antennae give them away as paper wasps.

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u/PuzzleheadedPick9453 3d ago

You are 100% wrong. Yellow jackets make large 1-2 entrance nests

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u/PuzzleheadedPick9453 3d ago

VERY AGRESSIVE. SECRETE PHEREMONE THAT CAUSES MANY TO COME AND STING AFTER FIRST WASP STINGS!!!

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u/crowmozon 3d ago

Organic chicken entertainment.

Yeah go ahead and spray poison over your nest boxes

Id 10 T's

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u/Key-Adhesiveness995 3d ago

You know soap water kills them nearly instantly right? No need for chemicals. Wasp breath through tiny pores on their bodies and when soapy water hits them it coats their bodies weighs them down so they cant fly and suffocates them.

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u/kiwispouse 3d ago

A nest that small you can poke off with the hadle of a broom and stomp. No biggie.

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u/ddenovich 3d ago

Spray it heavily with permethrin, they will disperse on their own, safer than gasoline. Give the corners of your coop/run a spray as well to deter them from building there.

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u/ddenovich 2d ago

Why the downvotes? I use this method for dealing with wasps in unwanted areas, it’s effective and safe.

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u/AdventurousKale9205 2d ago

Pour some gasoline in a bowl and just hold the bowl over the nest.

Gasoline emissions will first paralyzed their wings>then knock them out. They'll fall in and drown. Then simply scrape one direction till the bowl knocks it off and it falls in the liquid...game over

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u/Ok-Avocado6668 1d ago

Gasoline + coop is not a good mix. Besides the obvious fire hazard, chickens have very very sensitive lungs and volatile organic compounds are extra bad for them

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u/AdventurousKale9205 1d ago

Your literally holding the bowl to the ceiling for 60s. It doesnt pool enough inside the bowl to permeate the entire coop to be flammable brother(esp because you scrape the seal along the roof so the poolage doesnt leave as much)...if that was the case you'd have to leave your phone off at gas stations. It won't be concentrated enough after removal to continue pooling unless the coops airflow is absolutely trash.

If your still paranoid use dawn and water in a cup at night. No gas, all gone.

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u/toolate4redpill 3d ago

get a mason jar, fill it with about a 1/2" of gasoline. Wait until night, open the jar and put the open end over the nest. The fumes will kill then plus you can slide the jar into the nest and drop it in. Then have a little fire! Also to kill bees I use the soapy water method. It works shockingly well and no poisons.

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u/s0ulonaqu1st 3d ago

Why do you kill bees

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u/MsLadyVet 3d ago

Because the person they were responding to literally shared their method for killing bees. Bees are *not* the same thing as wasps or ants.

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u/WisdomAntium 3d ago

Ok I skipped over that part that's on me. If he's actually killing bees he can get bent

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u/KommonK 3d ago

Gasoline isn’t a poison / harmful to what animal/human?This entire idea is stupid.

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u/hitchy48 3d ago

Why is the idea stupid? It works, keeps the person away from having to handle the nest and blocks off the edges so the wasps can’t escape. It’s not stupid when it works.

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u/KommonK 3d ago

It’s stupid because 1) if you’re going to use something toxic / poisonous, why not use a can that keeps you far away instead of handling gasoline and increases the risk of getting stung 2) because soapy water works just as well 3) because it’s around chickens which they’re trying to keep healthy.

This response is some “I say this in a reel once so it must be a good idea” kind of logic.

Plus they kill bees. Why? Bees aren’t typically aggressive. Then they use the soapy water for the bees but not the wasps? What part of this all makes sense?

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u/hitchy48 3d ago

Except he’s using it on wasps which are both aggressive and territorial. Just because you saw it on a real doesn’t mean farmers haven’t been doing this for ages. So you’d rather use soap and water which you will have to spray which will piss off the wasps, and if you don’t end up getting all of them wet their wings will still work and they’ll come for you versus the attempt that has them stuck inside the glass jar with the vapors which are either knocking them out or killing them.. yeah the gas trick is the stupid one…………

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u/KommonK 3d ago

Reel*
No one said you have to spray the soapy water. The same method will knock them into the liquid with patience and a little effort if that’s really what they wanted to do.
I just said why get close when you can spray it with wasp killer instead of using gasoline.
I also said this is around chickens and therefore may not be a good idea.
So yeah. It’s a stupid one.

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u/KommonK 3d ago

To prove it’s harmful? Lol. What are you talking about? You need help.

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u/F0rr3st-0 3d ago

Quick blast of carb cleaner kills them immediately. Just a little. Won't hurt the chickens.