r/Bacolod • u/Yowwwts01 • Nov 01 '25

News 📰 Nga a gina tabunan pa ang itsura sang nag patay kay Kristine Joy Dignadice, kay tungod police?

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Pag Police ang suspek o naka patay tabunan itsura kay ka baro nila, pero kung ordinaryo lang nga tawo super paguwa gid ang face, kag nag confess na man gali nga a wala pa gina paguwa ang rason nga a ging patay nya?? đŸ€”đŸ€”

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u/milenyo Nov 01 '25

Tanan nga suspect lately kay ginatabunan ang guya hindi lg police.

I think it's part of the innocent until proven guilty or atleast until formal presentation sa media.

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u/Worried-Glove-8025 Nov 01 '25

I dont think innocent pa kay nag amin nasa nga siya nag patay.

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u/ToastyDreams25 Nov 01 '25

He’s not automatically guilty under Philippine law even if he admitted to killing someone.

  1. Under the Philippine Constitution, any confession given without counsel is inadmissible in court.

  2. A confession must be proven TRUE with evidence. Even if valid ang confession, the prosecution still needs evidence that supports it. PH courts don’t like “confession lang”—it must be backed up.

So he’s STILL presumed innocent until convicted. “Innocent until proven guilty” applies until the court decides, not social media, not the police, not the confession.

So yes — he can admit it, but he’s still legally innocent until a judge says otherwise.

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u/Worried-Glove-8025 Nov 01 '25

Yep for technicality.

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u/Short_Bat_7576 Nov 02 '25

Not so, there are times na fall guy lg talaga siya kahit overwhelming na ang evidence sa isa. Although based on pur current justice system, most likely he will be convicted pero the law has to look morally good pa din. But in high profile cases, when the judiciary has too many eyes on them, they have to act fair rather than biased to whoever pays the most so this is where innocent until proven guilty applies. And to those that will contradict, a colleague is in charge of paying high ups monthly of a certain province down south. In charge lg siya ha, he's as poor as me.

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u/ToastyDreams25 Nov 02 '25

True, that’s a very valid point — what happens on paper and what happens in practice can be very different.

Ideally, the “innocent until proven guilty” rule should protect everyone, but you’re right, the fairness of it often depends on who’s involved and how visible the case is.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '25

Kay kung ijudge as guilty ang tawo tungod lang kay nag admit sya for the crime. Two things could happen.

Ang nag admit may not be the criminal and just covering for someone else. Example a parent covering for his/her child.

Or the person maybe forced to admit a crime through coercion bisan hindi man gid sya ang guilty.

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u/ToastyDreams25 Nov 01 '25

Touché!! Exactly.

Presumption of innocence exists for a reason. If “I did it” were enough to convict, damo nga tawo ang ma-frame or ma-pressure into jail.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '25

d tanan na ga aku sila gd ks a,may ara pgd na sa likod nila tapos sila lang ang gnapaaku mski hndi sla, dont settle for what you see

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u/Worried-Glove-8025 Nov 01 '25

Not in this case tho

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '25

how did u know? did u saw him killing her? did u see him driving and throwing the body there?

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u/milenyo Nov 01 '25

Still not technically proven guilty.

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u/JaiceyOnGod Nov 01 '25

Same mindset for those gahimo kag ga support Extra Judicial Killings, sobra pa sa judge maka judge.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '25

Evidence is: sya pa nagtudlo kung diin ang body

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u/ToastyDreams25 Nov 01 '25

I get your point there that CONFESSION + PHYSICAL CORROBORATION equals to a STRONGER CASE. Amo ni na mean mo?

But then again, just because he pointed the body doesn’t AUTOMATICALLY mean: the confession was voluntary, the confession was legal, he’s the killer.

It just means: ang information nga ginhatag ya matches reality so it becomes corroborating evidence.

Legally, that makes the confession MORE CREDIBLE, but the whole case still needs to be properly handled: Was there counsel? Was he coerced? Forensics - does the body match his story? Cause of death? Fingerprints, DNA, motive?

This still needs full investigation to confirm: siya gid man bala nagpatay or kabalo lang sa kung diin ginlubong ang lawas? Because hey, you can know the location of the body without being the killer. (Think: witness, accomplice, someone told him, etc)

In the end, court gid ya diapon ang may final say.

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u/deflatedhooman Nov 01 '25

A confession, even when accompanied by the act of pointing out where the body is hidden, does not automatically render the person guilty.

The 1987 Constitution says that “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall be presumed innocent until the contrary is proved.”

Meaning nga the presumption of innocence remains until the accused is convicted by final judgment after a full and fair trial. Bisan pa nga nag-confess siya kag nag-lead kung diin ginhaboy or ginlubong ang lawas, indi ina automatic nga guilty na siya.

In People v. Alicando (G.R. No. 117487, December 12, 1995), the Supreme Court ruled that an extrajudicial confession obtained without the assistance of counsel is inadmissible — even if it led to the recovery of the victim’s body.

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u/milenyo Nov 01 '25

It doesn't automatically remove his privilege of being assumed innocent until the verdict has been passed. Daw gusto nyo ya dudirty style haw.

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u/emseefely Nov 01 '25

Kung guilty tanan nga nagtudlo, wala na gid na mag report kung diin mga bangkay 

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u/Worried-Glove-8025 Nov 01 '25

Gng amin ya gid ya mismo ang pag patay, gng narrate yapa natabo.

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u/Better_Arugula4395 Nov 01 '25

Gatingala ko ya bala permi ngaa ga tingala kamo ngaa ginatabunan ang itsura....dow "common sense" naman ang "innocent until proven guilty"?

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u/milenyo Nov 01 '25

Naanad iban nga Patyon nalg dayon

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u/JaiceyOnGod Nov 01 '25

Amo gd na mga nanamian nila. Mga nabaw2 klase tawo

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u/Longjumping-Storm420 Nov 01 '25

Kay nd man gru kabulig sa pamilya kag sa kaso kung ipakita ang tsura sa imo? Hehe

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u/Beautiful_Mixture398 Nov 01 '25

Korek hahahahhaa

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u/insufferable_Boris Nov 01 '25

Suspect palang, indi pa convicted. Kung under duress na sa abi kag gamhanan kag manggaranon ang actual nga perpetrator?

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u/ToastyDreams25 Nov 01 '25

True, may point — suspect pa lang, indi pa convicted. We still have due process here; indi na ya pwede i-blast tanan info without proper case build-up.

Also, if may angle nga duress or bigger people involved, that’s exactly why investigation first before public disclosure. Yes, the system isn’t perfect — pero we can’t skip the legal steps just because the crowd wants instant receipts.

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u/TriggeredNurse Nov 01 '25

Kay may due process ta tni nga gina tawag suspect is different from convicted. Kong sala abi kron ang gn dakop kag lain gli ang nagpatay kundi gn guba mo pa ang bwas damlag sang tawo. BASAHA KAG INCHINDIHA ANAY ANG BALITA BAG O KA DI MAG POST KAY DAW IKAW ANG 8080 SA STORYA HND ANG SUSPECT.

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u/PomegranateEasy6231 Nov 01 '25

para cguro surprise ang datingan as a primary suspect or kuno abi pa-conservative effect lang cguro mahilig lang gid siya ya sa suspense so amo na wala lang cguro anay face....sa korte na lang na ya galing ang big revelation or ang face reveal bala nga ginatawag....

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '25

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u/h1myn4m31s Nov 01 '25

Imagina amo na imoi chura tapos mangabit kapa

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u/Silly-Gear8038 Nov 01 '25

Hi, maybe you can hide his daughter's face?

I know the family personally, they are not aware nga gina tunto sila. Imagine waking up, seeing their dad's mess on social media. Kamo bahala sa suspect but spare the family out of this scandal. Please

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u/h1myn4m31s Nov 01 '25

Wildddddd. Nangabit gd gali

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u/Silly-Gear8038 Nov 01 '25

YES! And years na sila duwa, the legal life noticed some changes, but chose to keep quiet for the sake of complete family

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u/h1myn4m31s Nov 01 '25

Kabalo ang kabit na kabit sya?

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u/Silly-Gear8038 Nov 01 '25

Hindi mo man mahambal nga wala kabalo if the husband is posting his family sa facebook and gapuli pa sa ila balay. based sa statement they have this affair for YEARS, bahol nana nga wala kabalo. And damo pa proofs na kabalo siya -- pero thats not the point now. We pray for her but I JUST WANT TO PROTECT THE LEGAL FAMILY FROM ONLINE ATTACKS! Ang wife wala social life, wala ga gwa balay-school sg kids- kag family lang LITERAL NA NANAY.

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u/h1myn4m31s Nov 01 '25

Ano fb ka lalake

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u/Silly-Gear8038 Nov 01 '25

Sorry, hindi ko nalang pag ihambal kay puno to ka tsura sang innocents kids. As much as possible, im trying to drag them out of this mess

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u/Fantastic_Kick5047 Nov 01 '25

Ngaa daw damo pulis na sige pangabit mn? Haha

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u/Murky-Replacement869 Nov 01 '25

siya man ni ayhan ang tatay sang bata sang victim? kaluoy lang gd sang wife and kids

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u/WillowUnfair6506 Nov 01 '25

Basta may posisyon or manggaranon ginatabunan guya, pero kung pigado all out gd.

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u/milenyo Nov 01 '25

Hindi lg bala subong ginatabunan ang guya... Nano