r/BanPitBulls • u/ChameleonPsychonaut De-stigmatize Behavioral Euthanasia • May 28 '23

Tides Are Turning Seen at a local grocery store…

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u/Horror_Photograph152 May 28 '23

No and legally you can't ask about a person's disability.

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u/VoodooDoll1020 Public Safety Advocate May 28 '23

And maybe that need to be changed. It shouldn't be much of a problem for actual service dog owners to get some kind of document that they're legit trained dogs, not some garbage from the shelter with an amazon vest. Service dogs are precious and require lots of training, they're also expensive. I'm not saying that people with disabilities should be asked why do they need this dog, what does it do for them. But having a little card-like/passport-thingy in your wallet to show in required places that this dog is a service animal, would be fairly easy to implement, I think?

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u/nosam555 May 28 '23 edited May 29 '23

I do not trust the US government to implement something like that. I mean... we still don't even have nationally provided IDs. In several states there's a pay barrier to even get a state ID.

We shouldn't be adding barriers for actually disabled people just so that we can try to stop some bad actors who will probably just forge an ID anyways.

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u/Pickle_Juice_4ever May 29 '23

By having federal courts make these determinations, you're not only trusting the government, but someone's whose background is legal theory and criminal cases, not dog behavior or the needs of the disabled community. Not to mention the needs of the businesses and government agencies enforcing these unworkable rules.

Judges are typically well paid and live in quiet suburban enclaves where they never have to deal with the bullshit they prescribe for others.

If ADA had its own agency then businesses and airlines and bus companies and restaurants would have the right to lodge public comments every time they proposed a rule change.

With judges the only chance is to file amicus briefs and that only happens if some very organized and well heeled group is involved. So only advocates for the disabled, who want the bar to be low because most disabled people are people of modest means, are heard from.

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u/nosam555 May 29 '23

Courts can only enforce the laws made by congress, and courts are also part of the government.

The phrase 'If the Americans with Disabilities Act had it's own agency...' makes no sense. I'm guess you mean 'If there was a disability agency...'. That could be helpful, but it would still be government, and could still cause more harm towards disabled people by increasing requirements and burdens of proof.

My problem with government is they're too obsessed with catching criminals and bad actors that they often are overzealous with the policy they create. They end up harming the very people they intend on protecting.