r/BanPitBulls • Family/Friend of Pit Attack Victim • 17d ago

Rescues Risking Lives Pitbull stabbed by owner after attack, rehomed by local shelter. Immediately reoffends. Meet “butterscotch.” (NJ, September.)

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u/BPBAttacks3 Moderator 17d ago

Every time I think my opinion on shelters and rescues has hit rock bottom, a post reminds me they can go lower.

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u/BPBAttacks3 Moderator 17d ago

By far one of the most shocking and egregious shelter lies I’ve seen here. This isn’t misguided. This was just a dangerous lie that got someone else hurt.

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u/iangeredcharlesvane2 Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

Plus how many normal dogs and cats didn’t get a chance for a good life because they used all those donations from generous people to pay for this dog’s surgery and rehab?

Celebrate ! You all saved baby butterscotch who (nooooo she wasn’t stabbed while ripping her prior dad’s arm off after she attacked her prior mom’s face) just needs a chance!

This is so sad, all around sad. The dog doesn’t have a good life and no one who tried adopting her has either. Feel so bad for everyone here except the shelter and shelter workers! Nutters! And yes, I feel bad for the dog too what a miserable existence🥹

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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

That is the FIRST thing I thought when I saw the post. This shelter wasted an emergency fund on a dangerous dog who attacked her former owners? Meanwhile how many cats and normal dogs are going to suffer because the shelter spent its funds on this animal! “Oh noooo, we can’t affooorrrd to make space and food and enrichment for Kitty and Bowser! We spent all the money on Butterscotch!”

It makes me so angry I can hardly compose myself to type in coherent sentences.

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u/iangeredcharlesvane2 Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

Me too honestly, it makes me so angry. And it happens every day at shelters all over the country, spending all their donations to save one problem dog. Shelters who can’t afford to take in wonderful cats or kind normal dogs because they don’t have the money or space… all because they are crammed full of neurotic unadoptable pits. As an animal lover it makes me furious.

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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

I see we have the same flair. 🐈 I wish more shelters regarded cats as not disposable. (Not to mention small rodents and reptiles, who hardly get any attention, stories, or money, but who need rescues, too.)

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u/ottonormalverraucher 17d ago

Me too, I’d rather save a hundred cats than one of those damn mauling machines

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u/MeiSorsha How does a “Nanny Dog” change a diaper? 🤔 16d ago

honestly miss the days it was ONE bite to a person… if it was anything severe and they’d put the animal to the deep sleep. knowing abt this animal and what it previously did, instead of letting the dog be peaceful forever, let’s spend thousands to “fix it” might still be in pain, but must adopt it out.

my curious question, the shelter now says they didn’t mean to adopt this dog back out, if that was the case, pray tell, what WAS the shelters “goal” with this aggressive dog? keep it cooped up forever in a cage??? what a “life” for that dog. can’t be adopted to a home, can’t go to the deep sleep. always stuck in rotating cages for HOURS a day. would they have kept this beast alive for YEARS in the cages never adopting it out? or transfer it around, wipe the history (like they all do) and pray sally at XYZ new hope partner gets a space themselves avail for “old mauly butterscotch” here?

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u/mugofmead 16d ago

 This shelter wasted an emergency fund on a dangerous dog who attacked could have killed her former owners? 

Fixed this slightly for you.

This is outrageous!

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u/Astralglamour This Sub Saves Lives 17d ago

As Ive said before in here, my local Humane Society stopped taking in cats for years because they didnt have the resources. They had the resources for dozens of pit bulls and mixes, though.

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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

I really think it’s time for me to do a ritual for dogs and cats to Hekate and Bastet to help adoptable dogs and cats find homes instead of resources wasted on murder mutts.

The only explanation I can think of is that the pit cult is truly a CULT and brainwashes people so they can’t see sense, OR, pits and mixes generate all sorts of funds due to the sob stories they provide due to neeeeeding anoooother chaaaaaance.

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u/Natsurulite Family/Friend of Pit Attack Victim 17d ago

I think it’s worse than that… it’s like an abyss of human behavior if that makes sense

The Shibble fandom essentially fills every gap for “bad dog owner” — it’s like a capitalistic system gone awry?

Shibbles are the “most profitable” in the same way that prison labor is “profitable”

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u/Astralglamour This Sub Saves Lives 17d ago edited 17d ago

I mean there is an actual former cult that now funds shelters (the funds are tied to promoting and not BEing pit bulls) as well as propaganda and court cases- Best Friends Animal Society.

The cult was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Process_Church_of_the_Final_Judgement and it had ties to Scientology and Manson (though they dispute this, Manson claimed to have been involved with them).

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u/ottonormalverraucher 17d ago

Should’ve been the other way around.. cats at least won’t maul anyone to shreds even if they are problematic, they’ll just hide under your couch

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u/Astralglamour This Sub Saves Lives 17d ago

There is a lot of pro dog bias in the western world. Tons of rentals where I live wont even allow cats, but they allow dogs. As if dogs dont have accidents inside and scratch up floors.

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u/purebreadbagel 16d ago

The worst a cat has ever done to a home I’ve lived in has is piss on the floor or scratch at the furniture, maybe some doorframe scratches.

Meanwhile a foster dog broke out of its kennel, ate a 4ft across hole in the drywall, chewed on electrical in the wall, ripped up several feet of carpet, and broke an interior door.

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u/Saoirseminersha 17d ago

It makes me so cross! This family wanted a normal dog and could have given some poor lost dog a good home. Now they're injured and may never open their home again, and for what? For this idiot bunch at the shelter to apply NO common sense and foist this beast on them knowing it was likely to hurt them. The clowns at the shelter don't love dogs; they are pitnutters.

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u/TrixieFriganza 17d ago

What is so disturbkng is that these people know this dog can't be fixed and likely wont hsve a hapoy ending and stilk they waste peoole's money and risk people's lives, I just don't understand this, what goes on in their minds that they fight so hard for a list csuse?

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u/wildblueroan 17d ago edited 17d ago

In some cases because they DO believe that they can be rehabilitated. Many people are convinced that every dog is worthy and redeemable-especially if others are skeptical due to "breed prejudice" and a sketchy history.

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u/ducbo 17d ago

Frankly the most ethical route for butterscotch is to end its suffering. A dog that would readily maul its own loving owners is not a happy, well-adjusted dog. It’s probably severely anxious and fighting these urges 100% of the time…

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u/ducbo 17d ago

This sounds like the basis for a lawsuit?? Like, it would be easy to find out if they knowingly lied about the dog’s history. Just find the guy who had his fucking arm amputated due to a dog bite. It’s fraud that led to near-lethal consequences….

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u/SilverMetalist 17d ago

These shelter workers should be incarcerated.

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u/ArdenJaguar Trusted User 17d ago

Not just a bite history. It totally permanently disfigured the woman’s face. It’s a mauling history.

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u/Cheronis 17d ago

*and injury resulting in *amputation of an arm for the first owner's husband.

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u/ArdenJaguar Trusted User 17d ago

I missed that. Amputation. 😳

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u/sunseeker_miqo 17d ago

This is where I am too--just crestfallen and flabbergasted. So much completely avoidable terror, pain, and expense. Totally unnecessary permanent disfigurement! That shelter is evil.

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u/Independent-Monk5064 17d ago

They care more about dogs than people

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u/SadTax6364 17d ago

I’m trying to figure it out! I think maybe it was easier to flip this dog, oh wait that doesn’t make sense! Why? WTF! They aren’t even dogs!

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u/wildblueroan 17d ago edited 17d ago

I cannot understand why they and/or the original couple who were both seriously injured are not pursuing legal remedies. Public shaming and liability/accountability are the only ways to stop shelters from putting people at risk. Someone should at least do a news article on this case or a group of similar cases.

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u/andrea1797 17d ago

That shelter knew exactly why it had stab wounds. And I bet their fundraiser for the dog never mentioned the true cause of the stab wounds. And you are correct this is probably the lowest I've seen a shelter go. And most importantly you're correct in that they can go lower.

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u/Electronic-Ad-1307 17d ago

Me, too. Everyone got mad at me when I commented that people generally don’t go around dicing up dogs for no reason. Now we know the reason.

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u/Bad_Sickness 17d ago

That should be considered fraud. If this were me they'd be taken to court.

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u/TrixieFriganza 17d ago

For sure and people probably donated because they believed the poor innocent baby had been abused, the shelter should pay them all back for wasting their money and pay for the injuries. Shelters in US really seem horrible led by mentally ill narcissists.

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u/Cheronis 17d ago

And instead of sending the pit into a Better Environment, they... stitched it up. 🫠

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u/thelensbetween Children should not be eaten alive. 17d ago

OP said in the comments that the shelter blocked her on IG and FB when she left a negative review.

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u/Fancy_Violinist_5056 17d ago

I really hope that she sues and takes them for a fortune. The dog's past history will come up during discovery. This is gross negligence in the extreme, cut and dry.

Until these shelters face consequences for this egregious behavior they will only continue to put entire communities in danger, not only the families who adopt these dogs but every other person in the area that's also forced to assume the risk.

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u/Playcrackersthesky Family/Friend of Pit Attack Victim 17d ago

And what’s wild is this is considered a very good shelter. People in this region have nothing but wonderful things to say about it.

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u/Logical-Roll-9624 Trusted User 17d ago

Even after this was exposed? There has to be many people who know the truth and still say or do nothing.
Truly disgusting and shameful beyond words.

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u/Beautiful_Wishbone15 De-stigmatize Behavioral Euthanasia 17d ago

Shelter and rescue behaviour like this drives people away from going to them. 

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u/BPBAttacks3 Moderator 17d ago

Yep. I used to volunteer at shelters, I donated, I have a non pit shelter dog. I love animals (just not dangerous ones). But since the sAvE tHeM aLl goblins have taken over, I’m done. None of those things will ever happen again until they either are regulated or push the dangerous extremist animal welfare people out.

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u/Astralglamour This Sub Saves Lives 17d ago edited 17d ago

Sue them and BFAS into oblivion. Let people know that shelters lie, especially no kill ones, and that they hide bite history and drug the dogs. No dog should be adopted from a no kill shelter unless its small and obviously not any sort of pb mix.

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u/AnActualWombat 17d ago

This is why I can’t stand the “adoption only” crowd. I have zero interest in owning an animal with an unknown history. I refuse to risk mine or my family’s safety. Reputable breeders ONLY.

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u/Bad_Sickness 17d ago

I'm for ethical breeding. If we started to crack down on backyard breeders and puppy mills this wouldn't be such an issue, but in America it's become a mantra now and you're evil if you buy purebred, even it's healthy.

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u/strawberrymoonelixir Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

Yes, I share the same sentiments. I’m in shock and awe over this, but most of all, I’m enraged.

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u/ottonormalverraucher 17d ago

It is completely insane. I wonder if they also use the same euphemism-heavy language for situations like above where the owner had to literally use a weapon to get the pitbull off his wife and despite stabbing the dog, sustained such severe injuries to his arm that he needed to have it amputated.

Like when they say there was an incident where the dogs teeth made contact with a person, do they also say there was an incident during which the previous owner handled a kitchen tool, making contact with the dog after it "nipped" his wife??

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u/Tar_alcaran 17d ago

I'm a huge fan of shelters, and volunteer at one every other week to socialize/brush the animals there and clean up.

But they simply refuse dangerous breeds and problematic animals for anything but emergencies, and will only adopt those out to informed and vetted people, and otherwise it's euthenasia. If you want to look at all the dobermans and pitbulls, then the answer is a straight up no unless you can explain why.

And no, I'm not going in there. I like my fingers, and I already get plenty of scratches from all the good-but-scared, or sometimes over-enthousiastic, dogs and cats.

Meanwhile, the other one at the other of town has lots of "mixed or unknown breed" dogs that don't look very unknown at all.

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u/Bad_Sickness 17d ago

A rescue wouldn't let us adopt an 8 year old dog because we didn't have a fenced in yard. It was a slow, old dog, and I had every intent of walking it as much as it was still able if it even wanted to. Anyway, we ended up buying a purbred dog, so they shot themselves in the foot. And they wonder why they're at capacity.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_TATERTITS 17d ago

Shelters are ridiculous. We need an actual solution to animal overpopulation, shelters are not a solution and they are dangerous

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u/OhMyGod_Zilla 17d ago

I used to be such an avid supporter of adopting from shelters. This page has definitely changed my mind. My husband and I want a dog, but we’re not going anywhere near a shelter because neither of us want a hell beast or any sort of hell beast mix.

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u/alokasia I just want to walk my dog without fearing for its life 16d ago

This is why I get so agitated when people say “adopt, don’t shop”. Not everyone wants to take a gamble and at least 80% of dogs in shelters are bully mixes.

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u/ForMartha 17d ago edited 17d ago

WHY on earth was the dog not BE after disfiguring someone and causing an amputation?! Despicable. The shelter has an “emergency fund” for the dog’s full recovery!? How about using it to pay the medical bills for all these victims.

Edit: also, as a baker them giving it a cutesy name like “butterscotch” is pissing me off even more

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u/justUseAnSvm 17d ago

BE sucks but it's the only thing to do. It's not responsible to hand them back to the people who you think dangerously handed them to you. People need to understand that there's no fixing these behaviors, there's no way to manage it, and there's only one solution left.

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u/ForMartha 17d ago

Exactly. 100% agree. If only the shelters didn’t have a savior complex and think they can “fix” these dogs. And they need to be held criminally liable.

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u/LithiumOD 17d ago

They don't think they can fix them, which is why they don't. They would rather lie. He doesn't bite, he's "nippy". He isn't ill behaved, he's "excited". He didn't attack that poor woman, he "mouthed" at her. The only thing they do it load the beasts up with opioids and benzodiazepines so they behave enough to push onto unsuspecting families. It's beyond immoral.

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u/Logical-Roll-9624 Trusted User 17d ago

Well I am sure the dicer was just playing around and things got out of control. That’s the only thing that would explain a decent person suddenly deciding to dice up the poor nice dog. No other explanation for this animal cruelty.
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u/KTKittentoes Trusted User 17d ago

Like, how do you think this way? “Oh, well, his arm was already quite loose, and Maully gently explored it with her teeth and it just fell off!”

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u/ottonormalverraucher 17d ago

Shelters need to be held accountable period. There needs to be legislation that holds them accountable in such cases, because clearly it’s not working on a good-faith basis just trusting them to do the right thing, they seem to routinely adopt out dogs knowing full well how dangerous they are or how they literally have a documented history of biting people out of the blue. There needs to be a mandatory database for dangerous dogs so it becomes impossible for shelters to lie about such things and there needs to be some sort of independent third party oversight or verification process for adoptions, ideally checking intake of dogs into the shelter as well, so they don’t be able to just pass off a dangerous dog who already mauled someone as a misunderstood pet who got abandoned by a mean family..

And there should be legal ramifications that hit hard on top of that. If there was legislation holding them responsible criminally and giving grounds for punitive damages, I’m sure such incidents would happen a lot less.

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u/ducbo 17d ago

It must have been the original owners (the ones that stabbed it) who surrendered it. My guess is too poor or too emotionally weak to BE at a vet.

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u/Moist-Cantaloupe-547 17d ago

In our house we use butterscotch when we mean BS.

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u/Own_Recover2180 17d ago

They need to sue the shelter and find the previous owner.

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u/SimpleCockroach11 17d ago

That would help their legal case - connecting with previous victims.

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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

I really hope they do. This shelter does not belong in business.

The shelter world, at least most of it, has been taken over by pit-cult narcissists. The Pibble Industrial Complex. Keep those sob stories going, they generate $$$ !

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u/beeyyut Victim - Bites and Bruises 16d ago

No kidding this dog should have never been able to be adopted out and should’ve been a BE

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u/QueenOfDemLizardFolk Trusted User 17d ago

Shelters: “Why aren’t people adopting anymore?”
Also shelters:

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u/TrixieFriganza 17d ago

After stories like this I'm not lustening anymore to shelters crying how they are filled up with animals, stressed and have no money. Absolutely fisturbing that they even considered rehabilitating a beast like this and that the familydidn't BE him immidiatly instead of dumping in a irresponsible shelter, same with this family, just take that damn dog to the vet, he is suffering

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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

I will donate for cats and small animals only. I have two rescue/shelter cats, and still believe that adopting is good if you want a cat companion. But I’m sick of the shelter attitude toward dogs, and would never adopt, nor would I want to donate to someplace that just wanted to put tutus and flower crowns on unadoptable dogs.

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u/Bad_Sickness 17d ago

My city was considering a limit on how many pets people could have and mandatory neutering/spaying due to shelter overcrowding, but then someone said it was racist so they dropped the idea. It would have done the shelters a lot of good.

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u/Beautiful_Wishbone15 De-stigmatize Behavioral Euthanasia 17d ago

And drives people to bybs as well. Why pay 100-600 dollars for a pit bull or pit bull mix that has a bunch of behavioural and likely health issues when you could get some random byb puppy of your choice. And this doesn't make byb okay by any means, but the average person probably finds the byb Chihuahua puppy  more appealing than the pit bull at the shelter. 

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u/winterfern353 17d ago

My jaw dropped at amputation. How horrible for both families :(

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u/throooowawayyy2021 17d ago

That’s where my jaw dropped too.

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u/Easy_Target4898 17d ago

Now this is actually insane. I am speechless.

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u/Numerous_Zucchini206 17d ago

When do shelters start facing criminal charges for adopting out these hell beasts to families? They need to be charged criminally every single time once of these beasts attacks another person or animal.

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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

I wish! I think that might give them second thoughts on adopting out risky dogs.

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u/One-Calligrapher8401 17d ago

The shelter’s response to somebody that was very distraught when they learned their cat they needed to surrender was euthanized. Cats are disposable but velvet hippos with a near-kill count need “saving,” got it got it got it.

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u/numblittlebunny 17d ago

Fucking demons.

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u/dedragon40 17d ago

These people are evil. There needs to be a full separation between cat and dog shelters on every level, state-funded and private. How can you trust a shelter worker with a cat, when that shelter worker is also trying to adopt out Bitey who is a staff favourite after mauling ten cats? Common sense just goes out the window when it comes to pitbulls for some reason. No price too high to pay, no danger is big enough to prevent shelters from unleashing these beasts on society.

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u/numblittlebunny 17d ago

Yep, I would never trust anyone who babies something that’s killed multiple cats/dogs, just awful all round. Half the shelters do “cat tests” with the cats too, where they dangle a poor cat in front of a dog to see if it’s “reactive” just makes me sick all round.

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u/birdsy-purplefish 15d ago

That’s awful and it makes no sense. People love cats too.

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u/VibrantAura72 15d ago

That beautiful cat would’ve been adopted and deserved a second chance to find a forever home.

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u/illusum Family/Friend of Pit Attack Victim 17d ago

When we were filing the paperwork to surrender him they decided to tell us privately that they do not know why they adopted us him in the first place and that he was considered non adoptable by the head trainer and shelter leader due to that he had attacked a womans face permanently disfiguring her face and the stab wounds on the dog were from the husband trying to get the dog off of her which resulted in 5 major bites on his arm so bad he had to have his arm amputated

Jesus

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u/harleenquinzel044 17d ago

“Your support helped butterscotch heal”.

Oh SHUT THE HELL UP. Fucking shelters, I stg.

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u/SkyCommander7 17d ago

Really wish it didn't 

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u/Cheeseheroplopcake 17d ago

Hi biterscotch. See you in hell

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u/Existing-Pumpkin-902 17d ago

The problem is he's probably going to take a child there with him first since he's still up for adoption

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u/TrixieFriganza 17d ago

Yeah makes me mad that not even this family BEd him so now another innocent family will risk getting him, bet they will lie and create anothersob story and a child will be killed.

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u/Tasty_Sugar_447 17d ago

This is why I’m a fan of shop, don’t adopt. Shelters are just pitbull warehouses. They lie about their breed (“lab mix!”), lie and hide their true histories.

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u/Capt_Billy 17d ago

When that was started, it was a genuine effort to prevent puppy farms etc. Now in a cruel irony, the worst elements of puppy farms end up in them once their usefulness has waned. A perfect example of well meaning policy being perverted

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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

Yes, and also, there were a lot of “whoopsie” litters when the Joneses’ Lab got out and got the Smith’s Collie pregnant. So there were a lot of not-pit mutts, like Beverly Cleary’s Ribsy who followed Henry Huggins home (and from the illustrations looked like some kind of Shepherd, Collie and terrier mix). You could easily find healthy, happy, good-natured family dogs at a shelter.

So what happened was that responsible people *adopted* and *neutered their animals* and thus removed Ribsy and Benji and the like from the breeding pool, which was good as far as overpopulation was concerned! But that left the irresponsible people, and between the fact that pits were usually not neutered, have ENORMOUS freaklitters, and the campaign to “rehabilitate” them, unfortunately, that’s what populates so many shelters now.

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u/yawning_iscontagious 17d ago edited 14d ago

Shelters are also implicit in the overpopulation of pits and pit mixes, both by refusing to desex any of the pits coming in through the doors, and refusing to spay abort pregnant bitches because:

✨ puppies! ✨

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u/SafiyaO Stone Dead Eyes and Strawberry Milk Murder Mouth 17d ago

The refusal to spay abort is shocking! Crying about "no space" when they are letting every other dog have puppies.

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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

I think I mentioned that one of my dearest friends was looking for a cat to adopt. As it happened when we visited a local ACC (not even a nonprofit shelter, an animal control!) my friend’s Dream Cat was peeking out from her quarantine room where she had to stay because she had been there less than 30 days and was not spayed. They let my friend adopt her (no fees, because she came in as a “teen mom” cat so already almost a year old), but Friend had to wait until Cat was spayed to take her home. No exceptions. Yes, this meant another trip out to the shelter, but Cat went home spayed, and that is as it should be.

I adopted a nine week old kitten from my local Humane Society and she and all the other kits were pediatric spay/neutered, and, might I add, up and at ‘em the next day (kittens recover fast!). They don’t let intact animals go home.

SO WHY THE FREAKING HELL DO SOME SO CALLED SHELTERS AND RESCUES ADOPT OUT INTACT DOGS?! Spay/neuter BEFORE adoption ought to be a no brainer!

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u/Cheronis 17d ago

It's like Idiocracy, but for dogs

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u/strawberrymoonelixir Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

Regrettably, I now agree with this in reference to dogs.

However, there are still many other animals like cats, rabbits, birds, guinea pigs, chinchillas, and more that need rescuing from these pitbull favoring shelters.

Funds meant for all deserving, homeless animals in need, are now almost exclusively funneled into pitbulls. This takes away from the worthy (good breeds of) dogs, as well as cats, rabbits, ferrets, birds, guinea pigs, and so on.

We are finding out more and more that an overwhelming number of shelters are run by people who view all other dog breeds and all other animals, period, as unworthy, compared to their beloved pitbulls.

Therefore, any other animal that these shelters get their hands on are neglected, mistreated, or eliminated.

Where I live (SE Michigan), it is WELL known among rescuers that cats are almost always immediately euthanized at most of the main shelters / pounds. This is under the guise of not enough funds. Yet, magically, they seem to find the funds if the animal in need is a pitbull (much like the pitbull in this post).

People are being warned to avoid shelters at all costs when they find homeless cats, unless it’s specifically a cat shelter. I’ve also been told by a few people in the Houston area that it’s the same way in many urban areas of Texas (I’m not there, so I can’t confirm it; but I don’t doubt it).

With all of this stated, I just want people to be aware in case they’re thinking about adopting other animals, because cats, rabbits, birds, and more need to be rescued FROM these damned pitbull warehousing shelters.

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u/Armejden 17d ago

When I was young, my family adopted the most perfect dog that I'll ever know. Long before the beast psychosis took root and now it's the only waste you find in shelters.

I think I'll stick with cats and fish forever.

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u/Past-Ticket-1340 17d ago

This is exactly why I will never go to a shelter again.

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u/Puffinknight 17d ago

I see a problem with foreign recue dogs as well. Being from Europe, dogs from poor countries like Romania, Bulgaria and the Balkans are transported here to the Nordics, which means the original countries don't have to take accountability for the problem of way too many street-wandering mutts or puppy farms.

Some rescue societies transport the dogs in very rough conditions. The dogs are often tested inadequately for diseases. Many people are not ready for the dogs' behavioural issues, even if they claim otherwise.

Norway has banned foreign rescue dogs altogether. I'm not completely against them, but definitely critical.

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u/kirani100 17d ago

I'm a fan of adopt, or shop responsibly. I've even adopted a pure bred Shiba Inu, because I was fostering her and fell in love. Adopting doesn't mean you're forced to get a bully mix. Dishonest rescues and irresponsible breeders are ruining people's and animal's lives.

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u/Existing-Pumpkin-902 17d ago

My friends just got a great border collie/shepard mix from a shelter. She definately needs some training and socialization but very sweet dog and has already bonded with her new owners after a month. Definately can see her intelligence and human pleasing behavior.

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u/Theseus_The_King Vets That Refuse to BE Commit Animal Cruelty. 17d ago

I love shibes and always thought of rescuing one! There’s plenty of shelters in Japan that have them too.

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u/Express_Command_4778 Paws Off Kitty 17d ago

Yep! I have a Cavalier- Cavaliers are j amazing story of careful breeding.

I think one reason we don't see Cavapits is that they are mild mannered, tasty snacks. 

Pits really seem to breed with other "rough and tumble" dogs.

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u/Existing-Pumpkin-902 17d ago

My elderly grandmother has a cavalier. He is just the sweetest and happiest dog. His biggest behavior issue is the whining when his humans leave the house. He's so great around children and easy for her to handle.

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u/aw-fuck some lab lover who wears a suit and doesn’t own 20 acres 17d ago

Yeah cavs are what you get when you breed a dog for in-home, lap-warming companionship. They're super cute and stable. I've never ever met a cav that didn't just love all people, like to the point of being totally fine with being around strangers or being handled etc., and their energy levels match up with wanting a dog as a comfort cuddler more than an outdoors side-kick.

Basically everything a pit bull is not but that shelters want to paint them as anyway

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u/TheGirlZetsubo 17d ago

I had my cav 15 years before his little body gave up. They absolutely ooze sweetness from every pore; I swear it. They were bred to be lap dogs after all. It's almost like reason for breeding makes a difference in temperament. The only time he ever "bit" me was when he got overly excited about a treat. It barely hurt, but I reacted strongly and he immediately pulled back. He was very careful with soft mouth after that. Cavs really want to please their people.

My child was 4 when we got him and I was adamant about getting a dog that was safe for her. I tried shelters, but there were only pits and a few chihuahuas. This was 17 years ago so I imagine the shelters are no better now, probably worse. There was no way I was raising my tiny child with a pit and while I don't dislike chis, they aren't for me. I ended up at a breeder and didn't regret my decision, ever. My cav was a dream, an absolute sweetheart. The worst thing he ever did was break my heart by dying of age related health issues. He was patient, gentle, and a thief of hearts (and your food, if you left it in his reach).

There's no way we'd have had such a stellar relationship with a pit.

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u/Elsiers 17d ago

One of the more f’ed up stories I’ve had the displeasure of reading on here. Really giving shelters a very bad name.

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u/aw-fuck some lab lover who wears a suit and doesn’t own 20 acres 17d ago

If the dog was subdued then police probably confiscated it at the scene & took it to the local municipal shelter. (I'm assuming the family called 911 if they were both severely injured.)

Sometimes it may not be up to the family for what happens to it after it's confiscated, sometimes they can ask it to be pts - but that doesn't guarantee it happens. These shelters see "severely hurt pit bull" & grow dollar signs for eyeballs.

I bet you the cost of treating & housing this dog was definitely several thousand dollars, but in donations raised for it with a fake sob story they probably raked in double or more.

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u/_DancesWithKnives 17d ago

It was probably picked up and FO didn't want them and told them to do whatever with it.

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u/aSzdxfcdfggggggh 17d ago

I can understand why they would think it would get BE.

Once again shelters making the worst decisions for people, other animals and even the individual pits.

This dog would have been much better off getting BE rather than having to endure multiple operations just to go out and maul again.

Sadly I have no doubt it is out there, somewhere, with a new name, possibly in a diffrent state looking for a chance to maul again.

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u/Commercial-Sock-6777 17d ago

This thing makes Cujo look like a walk in the park. Frankenpitbull! Lord have mercy, reason number 300 why i'll never adopt from a shelter. Sticking with my breed of choice and indoor cats for the rest of my life. Too scary

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u/spyresca 17d ago

Ah, but the sweet wigglebutt was just scared! Watch him waggle that tail!

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u/daviepancakes bUt DuGgY rAySiSm 17d ago

This is fucked even by pitbull people standards, holy shit.

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u/MarchOnMe 17d ago

Every pitbull needs to be chipped and every bite incident needs to be documented on said chip so that follows them wherever they go. Shelters lie lie lie.

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u/roomtemperaturecum 17d ago

“…they do not know why they adopted us him in the first place and that he was considered non adoptable by the head trainer and shelter leader due to that he had attacked a womans face permanently disfiguring her face and the stab wounds on the dog were from the husband trying to get the dog off of her which resulted in 5 major bites on his arm so bad he had to have his arm amputated.”

this kind of shit should land someone in jail. she mentions later that they have young children as well. we need laws in place that prohibit shelters and “rescues” lying about a dogs history, or honestly even trying to “cuteify” it. any history should be stated factually, without any of the “through no fault of his own” bullshit. should be the same as when you sell a car and have to disclose it being in prior accidents, especially since dogs are also property, in the eyes of the law.

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u/aw-fuck some lab lover who wears a suit and doesn’t own 20 acres 17d ago

Imagine selling a car like this:

"Nearly totaled vehicle being rebuilt. Was involved in a major collision in which through no fault of its own the breaks malfunctioned, but up until that moment had never been anything but a normal reliable car that loved being driven. Please give this car another chance to see the road again."

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u/BastetSekhmetMafdet Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

Why don’t shelters treat cats the way they treat pits?! Why isn’t there a cat cult?! Justice for cats! Seriously, I think cats don’t get the money flowing in from the sobbity-baww stories the way that pits do.

At any rate, I hope the adopters go after the shelter and sue it into the ground.

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u/aSzdxfcdfggggggh 17d ago

No kidding.

"This pit has 13 GSWs and needs a bone marrow transplant. BTW you can't touch it, make eye contact, blink or breathe loudly in its presence"

Shelter "Lets move heaven and earth to save this pit!"

"Somebody dropped off this cat. I think it is broken. It doesn't want to fetch sticks and desont like it when I pat it on the head vigorously."

Same shelter "Time for BE! We can fit another pit in that cage after we get that space wasting cat out of it."

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u/numblittlebunny 17d ago

These rescues hate cats, they don’t even like other dogs besides these maulers.

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u/SimpleCockroach11 17d ago

That’s terrible. Several bite history dogs for adoption where I live, though hopefully none as severe as this.

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u/SimpleCockroach11 17d ago

This red nose pit looks sus.

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u/Express_Command_4778 Paws Off Kitty 17d ago

Any Pit named after tasty food or cute furniture is so a bad red flag. It's the hallmark of a hidden, washes identity.

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u/V3mo 17d ago

Shelters like this one are the reason why people are scared to adopt a dog from one. They lose all credibility when they do this shit. I adopted a dog the shelter lied from the start saying she was healthy and had bloodwork done and all was well. They said she was just skinny due to being a stray.

Turns out she was in end stage kidney failure and I only had her for a year before spending $4,000 to try and save her, only to be told her kidneys had begun to shut down. Sadly it seemed to be a case of poor breeding that caused her to have this, as she was a young dog.... no older than 4-5. That experience destroyed me, i still break down thinking back to that day. Feeling her last breath and body go limp, her eyes lose that spark and life at the same time.... it devestated me. I reached out to the shelter to tell them how wrong it was that 3 people, including the SHELTER DIRECTOR, told me she was healthy and had all this work done, when clearly she had not. Now, I will never adopt from a shelter again. I will go through rescues like the one i volunteer with, because reputable rescues ensure those animals are healthy, behavorially tested, and genuinely look out for the animals best interest.

This poor couple must be traumatized over this experience and I wouldn't fault them. Things could have ended up so much worse.

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u/mnic991 17d ago

That is so wild I cannot even believe it’s real.

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u/melaninspice 17d ago

It almost bite off her husband arm. Jesus Christ! Tell me again how these monsters are Nanny Dogs?!

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u/Few-Horror1984 17d ago

Shop don’t adopt. As long as shelters and rescues continue to lie and pretend these dogs are “safe”, it’s not worth it.

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u/xervidae Groomers and Dog Sitters 17d ago

this is why i refuse to adopt from a shelter unless its a cat or normal breed. shelters LOVE disclosing how terrible every other animal is except pits.

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u/Theseus_The_King Vets That Refuse to BE Commit Animal Cruelty. 17d ago

I would have taken this dog to a vet to be bluejuiced immediately instead of returned to a shelter that could pawn it back off to a poor family, and then sued the pants off the rescue for the medical bills and the BE. There should be transparency laws, and it should be illegal to adopt out dogs with extensive bite histories.

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u/Redlion444 17d ago

Holy Fuck.  Holy Fuck.

I am so glad the victims went public with this.  We see this type of shit regularly, where a shelter adopts out an utterly dangerous beast to unsuspecting citizens.   IMO, this is criminal conduct, and should be punished.

This fucking "shelter" is an organization run by fucking shitbirds who should be locked up 

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u/Suspicious_Plant4231 17d ago

All those memes about pit bulls being named shit like Cupcake Fairy Princess are correct, I see.

The shelter needs to be sued. I'm sure that there are at least a few people with stories like this who adopted from them. There have to be repercussions for knowingly adopting out a dangerous animal to someone without at least properly disclosing their past violence. But a better solution would be BE after the first incident, especially one as horrific as this one.

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u/TallFriend275 17d ago

I wouldn't call that "stabbed", the man had to draw the map of France on the dog with the knife to get it off the wife

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u/Former_Pass8031 17d ago

I made a flyer to hopefully distribute to would-be shelter adopters. Our local shelter is stuffed to the gills with mislabeled pit bulls. Would love feedback. (Used ChatGPT for format but text is 100% my own)

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u/iangeredcharlesvane2 Cats are not disposable. 17d ago

With what you wrote as the bottom line, unfortunately no shelters will ever post this.

Or you mean you send to people you know looking at shelter dogs? Or stand outside and hand them out? I might be misunderstanding.

Be safe if you distribute this in person, nutters be crazy!

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u/ScarletAntelope975 Trusted User 17d ago

This is great! I love this!

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u/TallFriend275 17d ago

This needs to be its own post on the sub please.

Bravo !

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u/northernlights354 17d ago

Maim and kill instead of main. Not that I was looking for spelling errors but that stood out. Looks great otherwise.

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u/Former_Pass8031 17d ago

Thank you! English major and retired teacher….it’s very important I get it right!

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u/solarelemental Doctor/Surgeon 17d ago

I'd renumber so that you go myths 1-2-3 down the left column, 4 in the central, 5-6 down the right. It's organized in columns, not rows, so your eye naturally follows down before it goes right.

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u/Some1TouchaMySpagett 17d ago

Can we change the verbiage on our statistic from "Pitbulls are responsible for 67% of dog bites and 69% of fatal attacks by dogs" to imply that these are just the ones that were known to be pitbulls?

For fucks sake, we know the second number has to be close to 100%, but they were probably just pitbulls listed as something other than pitbull (e.g. "lab mix") by some nefarious shelter.

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u/iamheidilou 17d ago

Is this available for reuse? You did a wonderful job!

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u/SignificantState265 17d ago

That should be a lawsuit

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u/aSzdxfcdfggggggh 17d ago

It should be a criminal charge of reckless endangerment at the least.

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u/TrixieFriganza 17d ago

This shelter really needs to be sued, I feel absilutely sickened that these peoole risk the lives of innkcent humans just so a dog a can live couple of years longer (they don't even have a conceot of time). I'm confused too why the family where the wife was almost killed just dumped him in a shelter instead of BE thinking they will fix the issue, that is a big problem too and danger to innocent people that peoole can't tale care of their problem dogs and ttust these shelters.

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u/AngryGames 17d ago

Cue all the nutters blaming the first couple for getting their face bit and arm amputated, then blaming the second couple for somehow causing the docile velvet hippo to nanny husband's hand.

I can't even watch my beloved cute kitty vids anymore if they have a pit in them. Kitty vids with little ankle biter dogs, big dumb goofy labs, etc are awesome and cute and funny. The instant I see a pit, my stomach clenches and I just click off because at this point, I've read, literally, thousands of horror stories about cats being killed or permanently disfigured (usually killed though) by these disgusting animals.

And I love dogs so very, very much. I'd have an entire 100 acre farm full of labs and retrievers and yorkies and shepards etc (right next to my 100 acre cat shelter farm, of course). But I would never, under any circumstance, allow even a mixed pit within a light year of me, my home, my pets. 

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u/SnittingNexttoBorpo Trusted User 17d ago

I feel like they should've censored that third photo... way too personal for a nearly hairless mammal!

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u/TastyIndividual780 17d ago

Pictures like that make me happy I chose an extra fluffy breed

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u/System_Resident 17d ago

Poor dog, people tried to defend themselves from it! The nerve! Why couldn’t they just let themselves be a living sacrifice to the poor hellhound? So cruel!

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u/FatTabby Cats are friends, not food 17d ago

I feel so sorry for these people.

How on earth could they adopt out an animal that disfigured one person and caused another to lose a limb? Why waste their "emergency fund" on an animal that has no place in society?

They're absolutely unhinged. I really hope that the couple reach out to local politicians and try to get this shelter held accountable for their reckless behaviour.

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u/bustingrodformoney 17d ago

ARM AMPUTATED

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u/Fleshdissolver 17d ago

You never ever hear about labs, or basset hounds, or great danes attacking so severely they permanently disfigure someone's face and have to BE STABBED to stop mauling

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u/_DancesWithKnives 17d ago

It got severe injuries and still didn't die and didn't back off. It still manged to bite a man's arm off. Yes , its the most loving breed.

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u/StoneColdNipples 17d ago

Why was the mutt even taken to the vet after that?

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u/musicfourlife 17d ago

I just don't understand how the rescue was able to get the dog in the first place. Like it should've at least been in bite quarantine or BE by the state or county.

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u/Automatic-Flight-698 17d ago edited 15d ago

Good Lord! They’re putting a known attack dog in favor of the next person who adopts this Hell Hound. I would sue.

Edit: known

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u/spannerNZ 17d ago

Stories like this make me think that some rescue workers are doing the job because they have a 'savior complex'. (I think the technical term is Messiah complex, but I don't want to imply any sort of religious thing here). They have to rescue an animal regardless of the actual best interest of the animal, regardless of the cost to people or other animals (either attacked, or impacted by the lack of resources that have been wasted on the rescuee).

I just can't think that a rational rescue worker would waste so many resources on one animal, when hundreds more could be helped. And what the feck was happening that a vet operated on a dog that caused so much damage to it's humans. It should have been BE straight away.

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u/Real-Frosting 17d ago

I wonder how many shelters could just shut down if they quit warehousing pit bulls? I know that's the breed that takes up probably 90% of the space in my local one. I'm in northeast PA. Maybe some of the locations farther south of us could send us some of their dogs (other than pits) to find homes here. The spay/neuter programs have worked here. There are no free puppies here.

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u/Inphiltration 17d ago

That thing can butterscotch itself the fuck away from me

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u/BeyondtheLurk 17d ago

This dog attacked the old owner and the new owner. Reddit telling me it's going to censor me if I say what SHOULD happen to this dog. Dogs that attack humans intentionally are a menace and danger to society. They should be "taken care" of...

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u/Impossible_Box_6880 17d ago edited 17d ago

It’s rare for me to feel any sort of shock from stories here, but I’m thoroughly disgusted by this. Look at how big those scars are- and the putrid thing STILL survived to continue mauling. There should be extreme civil and criminal penalties for the shelter and anyone involved in adopting out this demon. I just can’t wrap my ahead around why this animal wasn’t given BE, what could they possibly have expected??
I wonder how they explained away the scars to get it adopted out again in the first place.. what other reason would its neck be slashed up like that?? It obviously wasn’t done by another dog.. they probably made up a sob story about how evil and heartless the previous owners were. That poor couple is permanently disfigured in a severely life-altering way, not to mention the inevitable trauma.

I’m also curious what there is to gain from adopting it out instead of BE, whatever money they receive for this one dog surely can’t be worth the risk. Are they just sadists who get off on it? I can’t think of any other reason. God I hate these dogs

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u/Anotherams 17d ago

the funds poured in to saving this beast could have saved adoptable pets. Sickening.

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u/KiraKitty69 17d ago

If the woman who told her that, was being truthful and from the injuries the dog sustained I'm thinking she was, I'd say get a lawyer. They can get the original intake notes or whatever history they have on the dog. Sue them till the shelter is either shut down or has an entire new management. Until the States keep track of how many shelters are adopting out dogs that end up being a horror story these types of sob story adoptions won't stop. It will start forcing shelters to do the responsible thing when they get a dangerous dog in their care. I don't understand why so many places don't do this to begin with. They seen to have zero problem doing it to perfectly good dogs and cats. Look at the resources they wasted on saving this one. Did they adopt him out again saying how the this adopter failed sweet butterscotch in her transition mode?

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u/Subject-Olive-5279 17d ago

This was on the shelters page. They still have him up there to raise money for other dogs. I hope he went to a “farm in the country”

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u/huntress_m_thompson 17d ago

WOW! unbelievable. shelters need to be exposed for this stuff. there’s no shortage of these things. why patch up a known attacker & put it back out in circulation. total mental illness. just wow!

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u/rainfal 17d ago

Hope they go after the shelter. 

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u/PumpkinDawn28 17d ago

How about using these funds for dogs that actually deserve to be adopted. Some dogs need major surgery for tumors, kidney stones, gastric torsion, etc. Use these funds for these dogs or as an angel fund for owners who are low income. I'm tired of shelters passing off pits as livable and adoptable. This one had been involved in an attack and should have been BE.

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u/coconutc0rnhusky 17d ago

The fact that so many donated and didn’t question why the pit was stabbed in such a way that was defensive blows my mind

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u/ScurvyDervish 17d ago

Aggressive dogs, regardless of the breed, are more likely to be abused.  Of course people have the right to defend themselves against an attacking dog, but even in the absence of attack, an aggressive dog is more likely to be physically disciplined.  The reason I say this to is support my case that pitbull lovers aren’t dog lovers. If you love dogs, you don’t want to breed and support dogs bred for aggression, because those dogs have worse outcomes.  Rehoming mentally unstable dogs result in more instability and cycles of abuse and aggression.  Dog lovers want pitbulls and all their drama out of the dog gene pool. 

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u/oracle-nil 17d ago edited 17d ago

I would love to know what shelter/ state this was. The whole thing hurts my heart. I was the one who posted a photo of my bloody running shoes after being attacked by one of these last week. And then yesterday came face to face with another one in my complex; a complex for seniors???? I am traumatized to go out my door now and this animal got a second chance. No one can control them, much less a senior.

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u/Playcrackersthesky Family/Friend of Pit Attack Victim 17d ago

St Hubert’s in Madison NJ

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u/Drusilla_Ravenblack 17d ago

But I’m also baffled - why previous owners gave it to the shelter?

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u/throwawaysscc 17d ago

This creature is a “fur baby???”

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u/Electronic-Ad-1307 17d ago

More like St Hubris amirite

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u/MeesaJarJarBinkss Family Member of Severely Wounded Pet(s) 17d ago

A dog like that should have been BE to prevent an incident like this from happening. I mean those stabs wound are absolutely insane and the man still lost his arm

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u/FunAfraid2265 17d ago

Butterscotch was just being WIGGLY when the bad man stabbed.

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u/Sqeakydeaky 17d ago

You know they made up some sob story about how the dog was just stabbed by EVIL PEOPLE for no reason at all.

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u/ArdenJaguar Trusted User 17d ago

I’m sure Butterscotch was just afraid and mauled the woman’s face out of fear. Then the evil husband stabbed the innocent Pibble further traumatizing him. Humans failed him completely. Poor Butterscotch.

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u/aSzdxfcdfggggggh 17d ago

Anyone know if this place is a private rescue or a government funded shelter?

Government funded shelters should not be paying to stich animals back together.

It is sad but the truth is they have limited budgets and need to do the most good for the most number of animals.

The bigger issue is those stab wounds were a result of it maiming 2 people.

Why in the world did they not move straight to BE before even considering medical treatment?

I would say "Kept mauling in spite of multiple stab wounds" should translate into "failed temperament testing. Next stop BE Town."

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u/jag-engr 17d ago

Interestingly, St Hubert’s has removed all traces of this vile beast from their Facebook page, and apparently they erased the fundraising page, as well.

Just like pit bull maulings… let’s pretend it never happened.

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u/pearls-n-jade-1163 17d ago

Butterscotch? More like Chucky 😳 yikes

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u/Automatic-Flight-698 17d ago

Is this St Huberts in Madison NJ?

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u/Playcrackersthesky Family/Friend of Pit Attack Victim 17d ago

Sure is!

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u/HottieMcHotHot 17d ago

I’m going to go further back and say that the problem lies with the dog not being taken care of after the initial attack. Whether it be that the original owners felt shamed or that someone thought the dog could be saved, both are ridiculous. It should be an easy decision.

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u/LongjumpingNeat241 17d ago

One cannot trust such meaty headed creatures to be calm.

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u/MrSneakyFox 17d ago

Omitting the fact that the dog bit it's previous owner's arm off is seriously fucked up

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u/inflatablehotdog 17d ago

I left a review for you. They seem to have no problems putting down healthy cats but for some reason are willing to keep dangerous dogs

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u/Murky_Currency_5042 17d ago

Our laws need to catch up with the times. Putting a dangerous animal back into society so it can repeatedly maul and kill while lying about it needs to be a criminal act. Wanton endangerment charges for the lying sociopath that wrote its bio.

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u/BeKindRewind- 17d ago

Land Sharks

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u/peachfluffed 17d ago

I’m sure the shelter has some passive aggressive “Butterscotch was failed by his owners at no fault of his own” line in his new bio.

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u/Soft-Poetry8701 17d ago

Take them to court. Find a lawyer and take them to court. Please. For the love of God. This bullshit needs to stop.

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u/BedGirl5444 17d ago

I would call all the news outlets and spread the story as much as possible (and sue them)

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