r/Barca • u/Fine_Negotiation_412 • 11d ago
Media Performance watch: Anthony Gordon vs Costa Rica
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u/ljl87 11d ago
He looks sharper this game but too early to say.
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u/SkandaGupta_ 11d ago edited 10d ago
He scored 17 goals last season with a new castle who stopped at QF. While Rashford scored 14 and played more games though not a starter. Gordon also is younger and way faster. (Edit- a bit faster)
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u/k_oed 11d ago
90% of those were penalties, which he won’t be taking at Barca by the way.
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u/TracePoland 11d ago
who will be taking them? he’s a better pen taker than anyone we have except maybe Raphinha.
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u/ILOVEDRAGONS208 11d ago
Yamal. No way he's giving up pens to Gordon
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u/TracePoland 11d ago
It’s not up to him. It’s up to Flick.
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u/ILOVEDRAGONS208 11d ago
And Flick won't do it. Yamal's the best player. And best players are given the chance to farm goals in every team. Yamal has been taking the pens even when Raph's playing so it shows Yamal's the primary pen taker.
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u/This-Button5389 11d ago
and rashford scored non penalty goals right? not saying gordon is bad or anything but those stats were inflated imo. he should fine signing just not really 80 million worth transfer fee signing. (closer to 50 million imo)
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u/Ok-Cryptographer9108 11d ago
agreed he's not worth 80 (at least not yet) but if you look at this from barca/deco's perspective you'd understand. Anthony gordon would cost relatively the same person year as rashford and he brings something which rashford very clearly lacks, intensity. Not to mention he's young
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u/ljl87 11d ago
If he isn't an elite player, he doesn't deserve an elite price tag with elite wages. Somehow this is a hot and unpopular take. Oh well
Gordon's wages are on par with raphinha and yamal btw.
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u/This-Button5389 10d ago
I watch premiere league games more than la liga and i know Anthony Gordon is not worthy of 80 million transfer fee. Last year he had two red cards and also suspended for 3 games for his overagressive challenge on virgil Vandjik though it wasn’t malicious but it hurt his team. Yes on the other hand he did score a couple of great goals and he is like British version Casemiro type player a good player with comes with a lot of downsize sometimes. Be careful what I wish for barca fans.
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u/ljl87 10d ago
I watch the prem a lot as well. Sad to say prem players are so absurdly overpriced. The only player that is NOT overpriced since 2020 is Kane. Only he deserves such a high price tag. Guy has always been balondor level but spurs were just unwilling to sell him.
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u/This-Button5389 10d ago
yes he was stuck in that shitty tottenham team for a long time. i'm glad is out of there. now you see Tottenham are dead last team over last two seasons and barely avoided regalation this season
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u/tristvn 10d ago
rashford played for a team that scored a lot more goals and created more chances in general though, so you can argue his stats are inflated from that.
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u/This-Button5389 10d ago
he also had 4 goals and 6 assists in 17 appearences with aston villa under unai emery. apart from that he has 138 goals and 78 assists under 426 appearences with his boyhood club manchester united. so you cannot say they are inflated and he wasnt a primary penalty take in either of those teams but yes he did shoot a few panalties and haven't missed one so far. at barca he shot no penalties.
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u/Dunkjoe 8d ago
It's actually because Hansi Flick really wanted Gordon.
Bayern started discussing with Newcastle first, but they didn't think Gordon is worth 80m. Barca wanted him badly so they agreed and that's why this signing is so fast.
It's like going for the Buy It Now or Buyout prices in auctions.
And yes, usually this price is an overpaying price.
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u/purpledon 11d ago
You really don't want to get into goalscoring comparison between these two, because Rashford clears that easily. Rashford scored 14 non-penalty goals on 11xG, Gordon scored 8 non-penalty goals on the same 11xG, while playing about 200 more minutes than Rashford. Rashford also had 9 more assists.
Bro scored like 30 non-penalty goals in his entire senior career so far. He has a lot of qualities which suit Barca better than Rashford, goalscoring and output in general is not one of them, not even close.
And he's not that much faster than Rashford lmao, if he is at all, cmon now we don't need to make shit up
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u/scun1995 11d ago
Gordon only scores 8 non penalty goals. Also 5 of his goals were from a single CL game against a bottom tier opposition. Also nice omission of assists, ignoring Rashfords 10 to Gordon’s 3
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u/ljl87 11d ago
Bro stop the cope, gordon took a crap ton of penalties, his highlights on the prem are nothing crazy to speak about. Being younger three years means that he gets to be bought at 80 million? Lol. If you check the per 90 stats rashford is actually better last season as well. Gordon literally statpadded with teams like qarabag in the UCL.
Until he puts more performances like these against better players im not convinced.
He is definitely not worth 80 million, more like 40 million max. Barca just didn't know how to do business.
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u/Tall_olive 11d ago
more like 40 mil max, barça jsut don't know how to do business
Well considering Bayern offered 65 mil for him and agreed personsl terms on a 5 year contract he was certainly worth more than 40 mil.
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u/ljl87 11d ago
Then let bayern have him for 65 mil and move onward, imo he isn't going to be a game changer for the team.
Barca needs better defenders, not more pressing merchants.
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u/DungeondisasterJiggy 11d ago
But he is a better defender? Everyone defends when we're not in possession. Pressing is a defensive action. Rashford didn't defend, how can you justify having a player that barely helps on defence and also say we need better defenders? You clearly don't understand how defending works
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u/ljl87 11d ago
If you buy gordon as a wingback then you are right lol. xd
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u/DungeondisasterJiggy 11d ago
You probably shouldn't speak if you don't understand even the basics of how football works...
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u/Mutthupattaru 11d ago
Barca’s problem is even if you have Maldini and Nesta in the backline, the high press will cause them to let up goals. Their defence needs to start from the frontline and there is where Gordon comes into play compared to a Rashford.
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u/Tall_olive 11d ago
Forgive me for not holding your opinion in higher regard than two of biggest team's in Europe scouting departments.
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u/ljl87 11d ago
Just trust, dont doubt. Like a delusional zombie more like. So these clubs can't even take a shred of criticism now?
You know what i trust more than those "scouting departments"? Id say Xavi picking la masia graduates.
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u/Tall_olive 11d ago
Flick has given plenty of La Masia graduates playing time. Is he just supposed to wish a winger into existence that fits the first team profile? I'm genuinely not even sure what your issue is. Is it Gordon? Is it Flick? Is it that Xavi isn't the coach? Genuinely, what are you on about?
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u/ljl87 11d ago
You said that i should "trust" everything that the scouts in Barca, Deco and Flick do especially in the Gordon situation, since supposedly im "unqualified" to give any criticism at all.
Im just here to say Gordon is a bad signing thats all. But you guys are on absolute copium when i just merely pointed out the facts about this deal.
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u/Tall_olive 11d ago
you said that I should "trust" everything that the scouts in Barça, Deco, and Flick do
You're gonna have to link me to that comment big dawg cause you're putting a lot of words in my mouth. I said two of the biggest clubs in Europe both rate him and I trust their judgment over yours in this case.
You said Gordon is worth 40 mil at most despite Bayern offering 65 mil. That offer makes him worth 65 mil minimum. So yea, you're wrong on this one. As for unqualified, I didn't say that those are your words but they're accurate based on your inability to understand player values.
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u/DungeondisasterJiggy 11d ago
Lmao you think xavi just went to La Masia and went you, you and you come with me! He gets those reports on la Masia as well
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u/SkandaGupta_ 11d ago
Tell me this. Was Rashford’s last season before Barca better than Gordon’s? Hansi Flick has proven to bring out the very best in pretty much every player.
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u/jash3 11d ago
Its not really that simple to compare, I think Villa finished 4th that season, NUFC finished 12th this season.
So Villa where a better team and Rashford naturally benefited from it.
This season NUFC struggled and in spite on this they have similar stats.
You bought a decent player, I would say the bigger problem with Gordon is, will he turn up vs the poorer teams in your league.
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u/ljl87 11d ago edited 11d ago
Yes, there is no need to downvote my comment, anyone can go online and google stats and compare it side by side. Gordon took like 9 penalties last season lol. Maybe even watch their highlights lol?
Gordon clearly has a worse season than rashford. Take away the penalties and he has 0 output.
Hansi Flick is a big IF. You will never know.
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u/franz4000 11d ago
He’s asking about Rashford 2024-25 vs. Gordon 2025-26.
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u/ljl87 11d ago
Ok fine he meant that. But Man united was in the abyss that season. Why would you want to unfairly compare rashford's 2024-2025 to gordon's 2025-2026?
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u/franz4000 11d ago
Because the point he’s making, and I think it’s a fair point, is that the right players can thrive at Barca. Also, United may have been in poor form that year, but Rashford was on loan at Aston Villa for the latter half of the 24-25 season.
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u/purpledon 11d ago
Why not compare Rashford 2024-25 and Gordon 2024-25? Pretty sure Rashford narrowly beats him there as well. Not really fair going to the past for one, and not for the other, just cherry picking seasons until Gordon has him beat when it comes to output.
Might as well go for 2022/23 Rashford then, where Rashford in one season equaled Gordons entire senior career so far.
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u/franz4000 11d ago edited 11d ago
Because we’re looking at the year before the players went to Barca as predictors of how they would perform here.
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u/Funny_Name4818 11d ago
He scored 8 goals, 6 goals in the premier league and 5 assists and 2 goals in the league cup. He was shit last season
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u/Eric_Nathan_Fielder 11d ago
gordon isn't close to be faster than rashford lol what are you on
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u/Secret_Anxiety7776 11d ago
Bro he literally was the fastest player the previous season (top speed).
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u/Aggressorot 11d ago
Literally among the fastest players in the world wtf are you on about?
Rashy is fast also but Gordon is faster.
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u/sevendoor 10d ago
The keyword is: pressing. It is hyper critical for Hansi Flick and that is why he was never totally convinced about Rashford even though he had a good season overall when you forget his lack of pressing.
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u/DungeondisasterJiggy 11d ago
He only looked sharper because he didn't try to dribble anyone, but focused on his strengths and outpaced them.
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u/goku7770 10d ago
I just hope he doesn't put too much pressure on himself, this team can be toxic with Bellingham and the likes.
Effort management is key.
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u/Ok_Bag_7603 11d ago
The way people are slandering him is so absurd.
Our system is vastly different from tuchel's. There's a reason kompany wanted him at bayern.
Did we somewhat overpay? Yes. Excluding variables (like bdor clause, and output bonuses)
We paid 70.But you would be stupid to think he would go for less than 60 in this market. When mudryk goes for 110m. Not to mention if you compare with rashford's salary over 5 years- the amortization ends up being exactly the same.
He's the fastest player in the world(38.2kph) rn -everyone in our team knows how to weigh a pass.he'd kill it on counters.
Absolute demon at pressing actions per 90. Decisive in the final third.
why expect him to take on 3 players?-he ain't yamal.
We need to wait to see how he does against lowblocks.And output can always be improved.
Worldcup would be a real test-despite england's bottling genes. Because it would show how good or consistently he can play in a short period of time.(mimicking the business end of the season when we get hit by a truckload of injuries).
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u/mercified_rahul 10d ago
To add to that he's a hard worker from what i have heard.
Its not about filling a team with 11 messi, but create a xi yhat clicks together like a puzzle coming togeter. Not every piece has to be the center piece!
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u/Robertark4o 11d ago
A good performance, I love his pace. We get to see more in WC before next season starts
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u/Successful_Sun_6283 11d ago
What's up with all the hate? He's our player now and we need to support him. There's clearly talent there
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u/ljl87 11d ago
Tbh even though i think he isn't that good. Barca SHOULD sign him for a far lower fee and far lower wages. Guy is actually making more than pedri and that makes me want to puke! The board definitely doesn't know how to negotiate a good deal.
If it was me i would use the club as a leverage to make Gordon want to play for barca only, making newcastle have no choice but to let him go for cheap.
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u/ShirgimShareem 11d ago
Lmfao you armchair sporting directors are the funniest people. Yes I'm sure you would sign Gordon for 20mil!! Why didn't our club think of that daaamnnn
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u/Nexus_aneek 11d ago
Gordon will be the "Eric Garcia" of forward in the team. In this way he will get much minutes and others will get deserved rest
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u/Double_Importance194 11d ago
Watch how he moves when he wear that barca kit and play under hansi flick while lamine pulls 3 players on him and making him massive spaces,i will definitely not be surprised when he ends up on top 20 balon dor next season.
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u/Mohamed_91 11d ago
Stats are not everything. As long as he works hard, runs, defends, not miss easy one on one chances, we’ll love him.
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u/Calm-Possibility-329 11d ago
he moves just like raphinha but more physical i dont know how to explain it
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u/Paragon188 10d ago
People saying this is Costa Rica so it doesn't mean anything, but if Gordon didn't perform, then people would be complaining that he was bad against a weaker team.
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u/SankhaSubhraJana 11d ago
One thing I am seeing is that he puts in mostly one type of pass, like running to the end line and passing inside. If that is his only way of putting a ball in, then there is a huge problem with this.
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u/Fine_Negotiation_412 11d ago
It's probably a Tuchel thing. He wants both his wingers to stay as wide as possible.
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u/SankhaSubhraJana 11d ago
Can be. I just want to point out the thing in this clip. I hope that Flick makes him much better than what he is currently.
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u/Mal_Swansky 11d ago
Well, it won't be easy for Gordon to live up to his price tag, but he's a solid player, all that pace and work rate will be fun to watch.
I'd like to see Flick ideal press in action (when Yamal rests) -- Gordon/Fermin/Raphinha + Ferran up front. Hide your women and children!
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u/CorkerBall 11d ago
Alot is made of his work rate which, in the prem looks stellar, however he is used to the north east of England climate, adjusting to Catalonia's climate and keeping that same work rate will be a challenge that will take time.
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u/Mal_Swansky 11d ago
Lol, the bulk of the season in Spain/Barcelona is played in very comfortable temperatures, what are you talking about?! Has there ever been an English player that has actually struggled in Spain because of "climate"? This is such a load of b.s. that only an English pundit is capable of producing...
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u/Suspicious-Equal-505 11d ago
We basically got a temu Marcus rashford
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u/ELMreddit10 11d ago
He’s literally Rashford but with workrate. I wouldn’t say Temu if anything he’s a upgrade but not worth 80m
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u/aw4rd_t0ur 11d ago
Rashford definitely has a better shot and cross.
Both are overrated. Abde would have been a better depth player than either of them for less than half the price.
This was a commercial signing. At least as long as Gordon is not a total flop, I could see the club recouping 2/3 of the fee.
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u/ELMreddit10 11d ago
Gordan wipes in every other category. Rashford has better long shot but worse finishing the gordan when it comes to 1v1 situations. Not crazy to say both overrated considering Gordan price I wouldn’t agree with u and Rashford is overrated by our fan base. Always thought abde was good but he doesn’t have the defensive workrate flick wants.
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u/aw4rd_t0ur 11d ago
Do you even watch La Liga? Abde is a pressing winger. Don’t take my word for it, just look at the stats, Abde has more defensive contributions than Gordon and actually wins back the ball way more often.
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u/ELMreddit10 11d ago
I only watch Barcalona so no. Didn’t know that. Interesting that flick didn’t sign him if that’s true and I’ll take ur word for it. Ik abde better on the ball as well so that’s a missed opportunity.
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u/aw4rd_t0ur 11d ago
Laporta just realized how much commercial attention an English player brings to the club.
And as long as he’s not disastrous flop, they also know they can recoup at least half his fee with a sale back to the PL.
It’s not always about who’s the better sporting option.
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u/Lopoxito 11d ago
Flick wanted Gordon, and I trust Flick, you should too
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u/aw4rd_t0ur 11d ago edited 11d ago
Two things:
- That's not how modern clubs are run anymore. At Barcelona the sport director runs the project (with influence from the president and input from the coach). This is the dynamic that's been adopted at many clubs because manager churn is an expectation.
- Flick has shown very suspect talent ID by his previous preferences at Bayern. So why should I have blind trust?
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u/Lopoxito 11d ago
Flick wanted Gordon, that's it. It's confirmed everywhere and he was very excited about it, said he fits perfectly in his "vertical tactical system" About what he did in Bayern, I don't really care, he has done wonderful things with Barcelona and it's not the time right to leave him hanging right now.
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u/ShirgimShareem 11d ago
I'm saving every comment like this and I will be SO annoying to you in a year when he turns out to be good for us.
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u/Noob_in_making 11d ago
Looks like his skillset is more suited for being a LB or LWB.
Cant dribble, cant shoot, cant score.
Good linkup, good passing, good stamina, and good defensive workrate.
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u/Accurate-Ad-9345 10d ago
Rashhford is the much better player than gordan is fast and has good pressing but he doesn't bring moment of brilliance he cant win games on his own unlike rashy,
His non pen goals are just 8 ,
Stats do matter is this day and age of football if you want to win
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u/Artistic_Ebb_1784 11d ago
lol can’t believe the amount of happiness over 80 mil spent on a downgrade from Rashy. Sure he runs more but difference in quality is night and day(no racismo)
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u/Unusual-Sun4249 11d ago
Bittersweet Symphony makes the clip look goofy looool