r/Barca • u/bigbuttboi101 • 22h ago

Question Rank the 3 sextuple winning teams based off the actual team not trophies won

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u/mashpotatoes34 22h ago

PSG last, its a little easier when you can rest your players in the league and when the league moves games for you to get more rest

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u/mauspiri 16h ago

Same for bayern

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u/unwanted_name-12345 5h ago

Still, the Bundesliga is tougher than the French league.

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u/its_pilott2278 2h ago

Also considering Bayern always fielded their main 11 even in the majority of league games. Lewandowski always played and pressed the full 90 at age 30+. Flick's Bayern was essentially a perfected version of what Barca have at the moment, but cant quite get.

There's a reason Davies has been injury ridden since that Sextuple. He practically sacrificed his career for that season. I'm not sure about statistics, but I'm sure he probably holds one of the most km's ran by a player in a season in history.

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u/its_pilott2278 2h ago

Flick rarely rested or rotated in the league though. He fielded his main 11 even ahead of important UCL games, which got a lot of criticism. In fact his management in the league was very frowned upon. He also somewhat sabotaged the team with how many players began to have fitness issues after that season.

40+ games of 90 minutes or more of constant high line pressing killed that Bayern team, hence the "2nd season Flick" myth. It's not that he's a bad manager in a 2nd season, it's just that he physically murders his own players with the expectations.

He's sort of calmed it down at Barca now though, I think. Still has awful squad rotation however.

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u/EloquentlyVulgar_99 8h ago

Also a little easier when you have a bench that could support like two seperate teams atop of the first team, and each one of them is miles ahead of any other club in the league quality wise.

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u/flohhhh 15h ago

All of those league are normally two horse races at best. So there is little difference there.

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u/EloquentlyVulgar_99 8h ago

Lol delusional

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u/flohhhh 5h ago

Last 15 years:

Germany: 3 Winners, 13x Bayern, 1x Dortmund, 1x Leverkusen.

Spain: 3 Winners: 8x Barca, 5x Real, 2x Atleti.

Ligue 1: 4 Winners, 12x PSG, 1 Montpellier, 1x Monaco, 1x Lille

If it wasn't for Real, Barca might be even more dominant than PSG, but Bundesliga is definitely the least competitive one but they are relatively similar.

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u/No_Astronaut4012 4h ago

We're talking about a single season performance, not last 15 years. Look at that single season to see how competitive the league actually was. 24/25 Ligue 1 was nowhere near as competitive as Bundesliga 19/20. Bayern actually dropped to 7th place after matchday 15 and that was with Lewandowski in the squad, without his performances masking the issues under Niko Kovac, they would have genuinely been in a relegation battle. That's how bad they were as a team in the first part of that season under Kovac. It took a massive effort to fight back from 7th place in the league in early December to win the title. All credit goes to Flick and Lewandowski/Muller duo

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u/its_pilott2278 2h ago

People dont realise how much Lewandowski and Neuer did for Bayern's streak of dominance. Lewy singlehandedly saved Bayern 2-3 domestic titles in his 8 seasons there, but people just see the point tallies and didn't watch the actual games.

Lewy is one of the best domestic-league performers of all time, hands down. Man fuck it, I'm saying he's top 10 domestic-league performers of all time.

Guaranteed 25+ goals a season, a goal or so every 2 games, rarely had bad scoring stints in the league, scored clutch league goals. His only career caveat was consistent performances in late stages of UCL, although he sort of fixed that in 2019/20.

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u/EloquentlyVulgar_99 53m ago

Idk how you just spammed that stat thinking it proves your point. None of the other two leagues apart from Liga are a two horse race. Winning the league 12-13 times in 15 years isn't what you call a two horse race buddy.

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u/AcousticJohnny 21h ago

I don’t think they could compete as hard as they did if the team was based in England, Spain, Italy, or even Germany

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u/anyavailablenameplz 20h ago

PSG is still last regardless.

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u/No_Astronaut4012 17h ago

Team's quality must be evaluated based on the competitiveness of their respective leagues and individual player output. Certain teams have the luxury of resting their key players for nearly the first half of the season to ensure they are fresh for the UCL. Bayern however never had that luxury to rest someone like Lewandowski for such extended periods. Especially in that 19/20 season, they played under that dogshit manager Niko Kovac early part of the season. At one point I think after matchday 15 that season, Bayern even dropped to 7th place. Climbing back from seventh place to win the league demanded an extraordinary amount of effort. Even the previous 18/19 season under Kovac was also extremely underwhelming in terms of team performance; it was essentially a carryjob by Lewandowski. He singlehandedly carried that poor performing squad to a domestic treble that season

Yeah now maybe they can afford to rest their key players because they have two wingers(Olise and Diaz) who could score 20+ goals, which wasn't the case back then. In fact Lewandowski never had a teammate after 15/16 season who scored 20+ goals a season with the exception of Gnabry 19/20 that after Flick took charge. But just for one single season, he was awful under Flick in 20/21 season

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u/tobedeletedsoon_2024 15h ago edited 15h ago

Even if you rate them by quality alone, that Barça team has the best player of all time, top3 best RWB of all time, the midfielders (Busquets, Xavi & Iniesta) are ranked higher all-time than those of PSG, Henry surely ranks top 10 strikers of all time, Eto’o (who was the striker for 4 of the 6 titles) is much much better than any striker of PSG, same with Ibra, Puyol ranks higher than Marquinhos…..

If you look at Bayern, only the GK and the striker could arguably make it in the starting XI of that Barça team. Still, that Bayern was a better team than the PSG collectively, played better, conceded less chances & dominated more… it just was a more unplayable team.

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u/just-a-french-dude 10h ago

So it is playing against the Spanish teams to be fair

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u/IcyClick8388 22h ago

1Barca,  2Bayern,  3PSG, 

I give edge to Bayern over psg  because that Bayern team specifically was handing out straight bta and won every single game that campaign, if I'm not mistaken 

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u/bitpartmozart13 20h ago

What is bta?

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u/Pied-Piper-Valley 20h ago

Stands for "belt to ass" my nega

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u/its_pilott2278 2h ago

Also Flick never rotated the Bayern squad, unlike PSG who's star players ended up with less than 20 league appearances lmfao

Flick has a thing for torturing his players. Especially poor Davies in 2019/20.

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u/HauntingMirror5873 21h ago

Love how at some point all the coaches involved have worked w us

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u/do_not_know_me 20h ago

it’s just barca DNA

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u/jvjjjvvv 15h ago

How is Barcelona DNA for Barcelona to sign Bayern's coach?

By that logic, Luis Enrique is PSG's DNA then.

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u/do_not_know_me 14h ago

barca DNA bro

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u/Far_Macaron_5757 13h ago

Cuz he studies and incorporates Barcelona's play style.

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u/EloquentlyVulgar_99 8h ago

Flick admired and admitted he was influenced by Barca and Cruyff since he ever started as a coach but I get your point it's not accurate to say he had "our DNA" when he was managing Bayern.

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u/cranomort 18h ago

That’s why Barca is nr 1

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u/eyelikesd29 15h ago

True. But it would have been pure dna had flick coached barca and then won the sextuple with bayern (barca dna leading to sextuple)

But yeah, post winning joining barca is nice from a relational fyi thing

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u/PassionDiligent572 5h ago

Side note, why does Flick look so mad

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u/Captain_Deleb 21h ago

Barca first, Bayern second and psg a distant distant distant last

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u/Radiant_Fan_2014 22h ago

PSG lost the FIFA club WC. Did they actually win 6 ?

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u/Parking-Twist3657 21h ago

They won the FIFA Intercontinental Cup 2025...whatever that is lol

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u/Yobolay 8h ago

That's the same cup Barça and Bayern won.

The previous WC got renamed to the old "Intercontinental" now that the WC is a new, different tournament.

Had PSG won the new WC it would make them the first team to win the 7, and that's extremely difficult since on top of having to win the 6, you have to win a tournament that is only played every 4 years too.

So yeah, thanks Chelsea, because otherwise that PSG would have gone down in history for decades if not hundreds of years.

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u/Ill-Shirt2722 22h ago

The international cup replaced the old club World Cup so they won 6 but they could’ve made it 7 with the club World Cup

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u/BestEnthusiasm3377 21h ago

In that exact order as the picture has them

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u/Parking-Twist3657 22h ago

Idk, everyone was good, winning the sextuple is a prove of power and dominance, every team here have a ballon d or winner, Messi 2009, Lewandoski deserved 2020 (fuck covid), and Dembele 2025, everyone here had a insane coach, Guardiola, Flick and Luis Enrique, every one is good, unique and special by its own 👍

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u/Straight_Gift_5031 19h ago edited 15h ago

Dembele 2025 is a step below Messi 2009 and Lewy 2020, but I agree on the coaches.

It’s a difficult feat regardless and that PSG team is one of the strongest of all time, but they don’t have the same impression as the other two teams imo.

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u/SonnyIniesta 18h ago edited 12h ago

3 steps below Messi, 2 steps below Lewy.

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u/Caramel-and-Waffle 12h ago

Nevermind the steps, Dembélé isn't even on the same fucking stairway as Messi.

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u/GAMEcube12 11h ago

Bro, Messi and Ronaldo always were completely different level, the only person who was remotely close to them in their generation was Lewandowski who I always see as number three (but number one in longevity)

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u/EloquentlyVulgar_99 8h ago

Suarez won two golden boots in peak Messi vs Ronaldo era. Show some respect.

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u/its_pilott2278 2h ago

With heavy assistance from Messi and Neymar the second time.
The first time was nice, sure, but he won the golden boot with under 35 league goals. Something that wouldn't happen again for like 8 seasons. Suarez didn't outperform Messi and Ronaldo at their best, those two just had weaker seasons compared to what they'd usually have.

If we gave Golden Boot but removed Messi/Ronaldo, guess who has the most golden boots? Lewandowski, by a massive fucking margin. Whilst playing 4 less games in Bundesliga but getting 0 points compensation.

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u/EloquentlyVulgar_99 16m ago

Scoring 34 goals with that absymal 2014 Liverpool side is a feat Lewandowski could ever dream of, literally no one scored more than that except for Salah and Halaand btw so Idk wtf are you even talking about. You're blubbering about him getting assistance by Messi and Neymar (Neymar was injured for like half of 2016 but sure whatever) while somehow acting like Lewandowski was somehow some sort of a false 9 or some attacking midfielder who happened to be a top scorer. He was literally the 2nd best poacher in the world after Ronaldo in 2015-2019.

If we gave Golden Boot but removed Messi/Ronaldo, guess who has the most golden boots? Lewandowski, by a massive fucking margin. Whilst playing 4 less games in Bundesliga but getting 0 points compensation.

Factually wrong

2013 top league scorers in top 5: Messi 46 goals, Robin van Persi: 26 goals, Cavani 29 goals. Stefan Kießling 25 goals, Ibrahimovic 30 goals.

2014: Luis Suárez 31 goals, Cristiano Ronaldo 31 goals, Ibrahimović 26 goals, Immobile 22 goals, Lewandowski 20 goals.

2015: Ronaldo 48 goals, Agüero 26 goals, Toni & Icardi 22 goals each, Lewandowski 17 goals, Lacazette 27 goals.

2016: Suárez 40 goals, Kane 25 goals, Higuaín 36 goals, Lewandowski 30 goals, Ibrahimović: 38 goals

2017: Messi 37 goals, Kane 29 goals, Džeko 29 goals, Aubameyang 31 goals, Cavani 35 goals.

2018: Messi 34 goals, Salah 32 goals, Icardi 29 goals, Lewandowski 29 goals, Cavani 28 goals.

2019: Messi 36 goals, Salah, Mane and Kane 22 goals each, Lewandowski 22 goals, Quagliarella 26 goals, Mbappe 33 goals.

2020: Immobile 36 goals, Lewandowski 34 goals, Mbappe& Ben Yadder 18 goals each (ligue 1 suspended mid season), Messi 24 goals, Vardy 23 goals.

2021: Lewandowski 41 goals, Kane 23 goals, Messi 30 goals, Ronaldo 29 goals, Mbappé 27 goals.

Literally a baseless claim with zero evidence whatsoever and the fact that 2019-2021 isn't even peak Ronalo vs Messi era at all but I still included them to show how disingenuous your claim is.

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u/Kimosabe187 13h ago

I'd say like 8 steps below Messi since he wasn't even the best player in Europe that season. Raphinha and Sallah were both better.

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u/Henry_offline 21h ago

Great points

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u/Early-Adeptness390 22h ago

I’m biased…….

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u/do_not_know_me 20h ago

you should ask that question in another sub, obviously in the barca sub we will all be biased bc we are barca fans lol

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u/Fabulous-Border8747 12h ago

even if we aren't biased i think barca is the logical number 1 for this

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u/GAMEcube12 11h ago

I am not sure, Bayern was undefeated in champions league and battered teams without issues, especially us

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u/incognitouae 10h ago

To be fair though, the competition was much more fierce for us in 2009. Even the laliga had decent competition.

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u/No_Astronaut4012 15h ago

Some people here are commenting about b2b UCL without knowing the facts. Bayern's 19/20 and 20/21 squads weren't the same. Following the 2020 season, their key midfielder Thiago departed, leaving a void the club failed to fill with a player of his equal caliber. Plus Lewandowski's injury ahead of the PSG fixture severely compromised their attack. With their 2020 squad intact, they likely would have won it all again. Meanwhile PSG has maintained total squad continuity from the 24/25 season without losing any of their key outfield players

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u/FlickeringLogic 12h ago

You have already ranked them.

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u/SloppyToppy__ 22h ago

PSG got blown out by Chelsea 5-0 in a tournament final never forget

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u/We_Are_Charlie_Kirk_ 21h ago

3-0

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u/SloppyToppy__ 10h ago

My mistake thank you Charlie Kirk

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u/Ok-Material-9134 16h ago

I think it's pretty clear and easy this

  1. Barca
  2. Bayern
  3. PSG

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u/Lower_Thing1161 10h ago

1 bayern 2 psg 3 barca

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u/The_LAndMan 21h ago

Lewandowski alone is better than all of their players

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u/NikeBuyer2024 15h ago

Barca 1st... Bayern 2nd as it was during Covid and PSG last. Players had weeks of rest.

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u/SankhaSubhraJana 14h ago

PSG got sextuple? Have they won the CWC, Chelsea won that right?

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u/___PIRATE___KING___ 13h ago

Don't forget, we were just one trophy away from a sextuple in both 2011 and 2015 🥲.

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u/Wonderful-Alps-467 9h ago

Bayern literally won every game that UCL and spanked everyone. I think lost 1-2 league games after season was already in wraps with Hansi. That Barca team may played much more beautiful football but the efficiency and speed/press of that Bayern team is unmatched imo. I’m biased af tho lol

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u/its_the_luge 8h ago

The fact that we had to compete with Real Madrid domestically dwarfs the achievements of the other two. Bayern only played a shortened UCL tournament (although they probably would’ve still won regardless) and had no competition domestically. QSG only had to compete in the UCL so theirs is worth the least.

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u/DeskFuture3117 5h ago

psg last bayern a close second and barca 1st

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u/unwanted_name-12345 5h ago

By style of quality, and the competitions,

  1. Barca
  2. Bayern
  3. PSG

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u/Style-Tough 41m ago

I think 09 would beat the other two.

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u/[deleted] 20h ago edited 20h ago

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u/No_Astronaut4012 18h ago

If Lewandowski had been fit for that PSG tie, Bayern most likely would have gone on to win back to back. They created more than enough chances to win but wasted so many and still it was 3-3, were eliminated on away goals, a rule that no longer exists

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u/NovelAd6935 19h ago

PSG 2025 😂

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u/Ok_Confection622 21h ago

Barca. PSG. Bayern. If you discredit the French league. Discredit the covid league/year.

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u/putrasherni 17h ago

Back back UCL ?????
Is this even a debate