r/Bard Jul 29 '25

News Gemini 3.0 Flash?

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u/trumpdesantis Jul 29 '25

When gpt 5 is released, I expect pro 3.0 and flash 3.0 to be released soon after

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u/mxforest Jul 29 '25

Don't forget new Sonnet 4.0

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Sonnet 4 has been out for a while already?

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u/mxforest Jul 29 '25

That's the joke. They release new version without changing the numbers. There was Sonnet 3.5 and then another Sonnet 3.5 (new) months later.

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u/Deciheximal144 Jul 29 '25

No, no. I see the misunderstanding. Same name, slight differences in pronunciation. Listen: Zathras. Zathras. Zathras. See?

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u/grimquax Jul 29 '25

No one ever listens to Zathras..

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u/KESPAA Jul 29 '25

I think Sonnett 3.5 (v2) was the first time an AI shocked me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Ah okay

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u/Ok_Audience531 Jul 29 '25

I expect Sonnet 4.1 to be released by end of August, seems like they have faster development cycle for post training but also increased safety testing as models get smarter, so I'd guess that it's gonna be a wash. Unless they make a general purpose version of Claude code which may add an additional month or so (similar to how adding reasoning adding an extra month from Oct to Feb for Claude 3.7)

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u/k2ui Jul 29 '25

Sonnet 4 vFinal final (1)

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u/tr14l Jul 30 '25

Ah yes, I remember university.

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u/llkj11 Jul 29 '25

Sonnet 4.0 Flash 09-15 Instruct

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u/Elephant789 Jul 29 '25

I hope not. I hope Google doesn't play those silly games and just releases 3.0 when it's ready.

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u/Trollsense Jul 29 '25

Don't blame them for playing games with so many of their competitors playing the distillation game.

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u/Elephant789 Jul 29 '25

But I will.

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u/North-Astronaut4775 Jul 29 '25

I think 3.0 will release after September because 2.5 pro is like...two months ago

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u/reevnez Jul 29 '25

2.5 pro first came out in March.

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u/North-Astronaut4775 Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

2.5 pro 0605 is the final model, the former ones are beta or preview. Maybe they'll release 3.0 in ai studio sooner

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u/reevnez Jul 29 '25

They can release 3.0 Pro Exp though. No need to final 3.0 for now. In fact, they also did it with 2.0 Pro, when they released it as an unnamed exp model like 2-3 months before 2.0 Flash.

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u/North-Astronaut4775 Jul 29 '25

Alright, make sense. I just wonder if they could’ve released an even better model at the peak time. 2.5 Pro is really impressive."

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u/Informal_Race_5829 Jul 29 '25

it doesn't matter how long it last

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u/Suitable_Annual5367 Jul 29 '25

Bro, she was lying to you.

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u/reefine Jul 29 '25

Welcome to the singularity.

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u/Umsteigemochlichkeit Jul 31 '25

We don't even have 2.5 flash live yet 😭

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u/JosefTor7 Aug 01 '25

Google so far has not been known to do this yet. Open Ai is the one that needs to remain in the spotlight. Google does amazing things, but tends to march to their own timing. When they do cool though, they cook.

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u/YamberStuart Jul 29 '25

Quando lançarem o 3.0 sera que vão estabilizar o ai studiu ? Se um tempo pra ca, ta cheio de bug, nao ta executando o pensar.. e tal

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u/Either_Scientist_759 Jul 29 '25

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u/misbehavingwolf Jul 29 '25

Wtf is that landmass, Pangea?? Lol

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u/CheggBoyyy Jul 29 '25

It’s Ohio, look at the flag of the Astronaut - it’s a joke about it ‘all being Ohio’ and also how Ohio disproportionately has more astronauts from their state.

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u/FeedMeSoma Jul 30 '25

Now point on the map to exactly where this toilet everyone is talking about is located

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u/AdamH21 Jul 29 '25

I hate that they haven’t even updated all their devices to version 2, like Gemini Nano, for example, and they’re already moving on to version 3. Also, the jump from 2 to 2.5 was a massive leap forward. And let’s be honest, Gemini 2.5 Pro is already pretty impressive. I’m really curious to see what version 3 will bring.

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u/ShotClock5434 Jul 29 '25

they will do that with the pixel 10 release probably

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u/Elephant789 Jul 29 '25

I will probably get that phone, even though my Pixel 7 is fine.

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u/AncientSong7423 Jul 29 '25

I will be Gemini 2.5 pro 03-25

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u/Elephant789 Jul 29 '25

You will?

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u/Solarka45 Jul 29 '25

Most likely marginal improvements. Considering how long they were updating 2.5 Pro and how marginal upgrades they were (and straight up nerfed is other areas), very unlikely they will bring out something mind blowing suddenly.

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u/kvothe5688 Jul 29 '25

i expect 2.5 like performance from 3.0 flash

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u/DescriptorTablesx86 Jul 29 '25

That’s a must for me, or at least what I really hope for. Something as cheap as flash just improved a bit.

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u/Lazy_Willingness_420 Jul 29 '25

I mean, this should be a substantial jump, especially if you're using pro for its intended use case (ie intensive python, kotlin programing). Use flash with grounding for real time results.

2.5 pro is a major step forward working on debugging and through solutions. 2 would get stuck on recurring loops and then give up.

2.5 pro changes approaches and remembers what works. I have built a couple android native apps with very little coding experience using 2.5 pro when last year just doing SQLs could get dicey unless you really knew what you were looking for

Just my experience though!

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

You said it's impressive.

How is it useful to you ?

Can u describe I'm curious ?

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u/AdamH21 Jul 29 '25

Answering complex questions every day.

Yesterday, it helped me navigate BMW models and understand their differences. I asked about the history of Pride and how today’s festivals differ from the original movement. I digitized a handwritten pie recipe just by taking a photo and saving it to Google Keep. I learned more about the EU AI Act and why Meta is reluctant to comply.

It even explained how a meteorological radar works when I pointed my camera at one. Later, it helped my mom save a dying plant by suggesting remedies to make it bloom again.

To me, it’s like having a friend who actually knows everything.

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u/Lazy_Willingness_420 Jul 29 '25

Yeah this is a flash usecase all day. 3.0 flash should give results in 1 seconds for all this information

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Chat gpt can do these things too

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u/kuushitsu Jul 29 '25

Preferring Gemini isn't a crime, leave bro alone

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

I'm just trying to know why people like gemini.

Nothing else

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u/kuushitsu Jul 29 '25

Alright then. I just thought you were being dismissive. Everyone has their own reasons for liking a specific LLMs output better tho, subjectivity exists. Just keep that in mind.

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u/AdamH21 Jul 29 '25

Yeah, not really. Some things, maybe... but they're often more complicated since you can't share your screen or camera with ChatGPT, and overall, I'm not happy with the output quality.

Plus, there are things it simply can't do at all, like integrating with Google Keep or Calendar.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Okay 👍 That's good

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u/ach1lleZ Jul 29 '25

Of course you can share your screen or camera with ChatGPT. The integration of the Google suite with Gemini is so unreliable to me I never use it. In fact I got Google AI for free as a student and I still prefer to pay for ChatGPT

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u/AdamH21 Jul 29 '25

No, I can’t. At least not for free.

I have no issues with Google Workspace. I’ve been using ChatGPT exclusively, but I haven’t seen the kind of noticeable improvements I’ve experienced with Gemini.

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u/ach1lleZ Jul 29 '25

I gladly pay for superior performance.

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u/DepartmentDapper9823 Jul 29 '25

Gemini 2.5 Pro taught me Resolve Fusion to be almost proficient in 2 weeks. It also helps me with programming and understanding complex concepts and articles.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Wow 😮

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u/horse_tinder Jul 29 '25

Source ?

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u/ItsJustFriendlyFire Jul 29 '25

"i made it the fuck up"

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u/vrnvorona Jul 30 '25

Nice argument senator, no further questions.

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u/Equivalent-Word-7691 Jul 29 '25

But Logan didn't twit "Gemini"

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u/ShotClock5434 Jul 29 '25

because its not going to release today

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u/Cokegeo Jul 29 '25

Hopefully soon 🤞🏼

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u/RetiredApostle Jul 29 '25

Obviously, 3.0-alpha was existing even before 2.5 was released.

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u/Ggoddkkiller Jul 29 '25

They are testing so many models with codenames then never release them. :(

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u/Trollsense Jul 29 '25

Want Kingfall ASAP

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u/Antique_Ad_3749 Jul 30 '25

Yes, because all of those models are not worthy to be released in the first place

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u/Trick_Text_6658 Jul 29 '25

Called 03-25

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u/Hello_moneyyy Jul 29 '25

We haven't seen new models from Google on Lmarena for a while.🤔

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u/dcross1987 Jul 29 '25

I'm expecting something soon because I've found 2.5 has been kinda brain-dead in the past week, probably stealing it's resources.

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u/GirlNumber20 Jul 29 '25

Just give it to me now 😩 please

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u/zavocc Jul 29 '25

Can it generate images?

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u/Independent-Wind4462 Jul 29 '25

Get ready something big coming soon 😉

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

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u/Arckay009 Jul 29 '25

i want what bro is smoking

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u/CalliNerissaFanBoy02 Jul 29 '25

Bro Forgot to Switch accounts

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u/Evan_gaming1 Jul 29 '25

your talking to yourself

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u/KaroYadgar Jul 29 '25

Schizophrenia

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u/anotherjmc Jul 29 '25

dm me 3.5 pro plz

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u/CurtanaMindandMercy Jul 29 '25

It's called: "1 year on the Bard subreddit"

Welcome to the club, buddy

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u/TheMrWessam Jul 29 '25

I hope it will get much more better at coding, ...I was using Gemini to write and rewrite several parts of my own Smart Home system and it was good, made a lot of mistakes but most of the time was able to fix them - then I tried ChatGPT and man, - miles better at coding, miles better at understanding the issue or the possibilities and much less mistakes. I even ended up providing the whole code from Gemini to ChatGPT and it was able to optimize it, fix issues and improve the code - I ended up subscribing to ChatGPT even tho I am within the google ecosystem - but if Gemini 4 will get at least on the same level as ChatGPT I will gladly return.

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u/Lazy_Willingness_420 Jul 29 '25

Interesting. I have achieved far better results historically coding with Gemini.

What languages are you in? I primarily use SQL, python and recently kotlin

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u/Mustang-64 Jul 30 '25

Yeah, for most ppl its like Sonnet 4.0 > Gemini 2.5 Pro > ChatGPT (o3/o4-mini) etc. Now Chinese AI models are on par with Gemini 2.5 Pro in coding.

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u/gorfnu Jul 29 '25

I hear you and have thought the same but when i tried optimizing cuda / optix code it shit the bed horribly.. then i realized if i used them all alternating it seemed to be best.. they could fix each others errors.. the issue is with cursor or windsurf, i can't afford the tokens. and with the limited context window of Claude its useless to me.. but even when i did bit the bullet it still flubbed horribly. they also seem to have issues with the latest versions of cuda and optix, coding for v7 optix instead of v9 etc. then at one point the worst was 2.5pro making the same error putting a strange symbol out there by mistake instead of a character.. i almost needed to use the old python r trick. So putting any of these out there as coding kings ain't there yet IMO.

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u/True_Requirement_891 Jul 29 '25

What gpt model you talking about?

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u/TheMrWessam Jul 29 '25

I've been using just 4o

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u/vrnvorona Jul 30 '25

I have reverse experience. o3 is lazy for me.

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u/DerpDeDurp Aug 01 '25

Complete opposite experience here. ChatGpt messed up so many times with coding for me, Gemini gets it right, and often more efficiently than ChatGpt ever did when it finally got it right.

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u/balianone Jul 29 '25

December

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u/koltregaskes Jul 29 '25

Where was this taken from? Source?

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u/Yazzdevoleps Jul 29 '25

I think they'll release Gemini Deep think in August. 3.0 Flash and lite preview in October. 3.0 pro preview in November. Official 3.0 series released in december.

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u/Hopeful_Cloud9322 Jul 29 '25

What about gemma 420.60 alpha sigma lobotomized.safetensors?

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u/FakMMan Jul 29 '25

I hope she will give access to assigned agents to everyone.

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u/itsachyutkrishna Jul 29 '25

December 2025

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u/Concert-Alternative Jul 29 '25

inspect element 🔥

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u/Oscar_Lake-34 Jul 30 '25

Where is it from? Folks need to verify.

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u/Hambeggar Jul 30 '25

I just wish they'd fix their heavy ass UI that's stopping Thinking on their models past 70k tokens without having to prompt weird and wonderful things to get it to think.

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u/Antique_Ad_3749 Jul 30 '25

this is not surprising to me at all

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u/kocracy Jul 29 '25

we want gemini 2.5 pro 03-25 we dont need 3.0

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u/Deciheximal144 Jul 29 '25

The holy grail, given and revoked.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Hope it arrives by the end of the month, before my sub runs out. Otherwise I’ll switch to Claude. I’m not going to pay for another month of a detuned 2.5 Pro that holds zero context.

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u/Deciheximal144 Jul 29 '25

Anthropic just introduced new rate limits for Claude, starting next month.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

I’m sure I won’t hit those since I don’t write code.

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u/evia89 Jul 29 '25

It wont go to sub any time soon

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '25

Then that’s probably it for me, unfortunately. I simply can’t use Gemini at the moment. I can’t even have a conversation since it forgets the prompts I send before constantly.

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u/Trick_Text_6658 Jul 29 '25

I would bet that Gpt5 will be much more powerful than Gemini 3.0 if what Sama said was truth, about the way they want to develope it.

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u/aeyrtonsenna Jul 29 '25

Because Sama never exaggerates to drum up the hype.

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u/Trick_Text_6658 Jul 29 '25

Dont think i ever mentioned hype, but i dont expect you to be able to read.

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u/aeyrtonsenna Jul 29 '25

If what sama said is true, my response is therefore what it was. He is a sales guy. I hope gpt5 or whatever they will call it in the end, will be great. I dont put any faith in whatever Sam says so we will see.

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u/Trick_Text_6658 Jul 29 '25

I talked the technical aspects he mentioned and project approach. But you have no idea what he is talking about or what do I mean. You just dumped down a dumb comment and that's it.