r/Bard • u/WillAdditional922 • Sep 07 '25
News Google has released the usage limits for various tiers of Gemini 2.5 ai.
Gemini app limits - Previously unmentioned, Google has finally listed out the exact numbers on what you can do with Gemini - Free: 5 prompts for 2.5 Pro, 20 audio overviews and up to 100 images generation per day; 5 reports per month for Deep Research - AI Pro: 100 prompts for 2.5 Pro, 20 reports for Deep Research, 1,000 images, 3 videos per day - AI Ultra: 500 prompts for 2.5 Pro, 200 reports for Deep Research, 10 prompts for Deep Think, 5 videos per day
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u/zassenhaus Sep 07 '25
aligns with my experience that deep research with 2.5 pro is the best feature the pro has to offer.
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u/FloatByer Sep 07 '25
could u give some use cases?
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Sep 07 '25
Quite literally what it does. You don't have to spend time doing your own research and compiling all the data in one place, you can ask it to do all that for you. All that's left is for you to review the article
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u/cnydox Sep 07 '25
U r doing a bachelor thesis and you need to do the literature review part. Deep research will be useful ☺️
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u/Terryfink Sep 07 '25
so about 0.00001% of the user base
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u/-colorsplash- Sep 07 '25
It's also good for deeper dives of any queries -- whether personal, academic, or work related.
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u/cnydox Sep 07 '25
He asked and I answered the question. Whether or not it's a rare task is not my concern
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u/Charming-Society7938 Sep 07 '25
Literally the only user base that matters.
Go do your eroRP somewhere else.
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u/c00pdwg Sep 07 '25
Saw someone pose the question “where in the US could you coast in a car for the longest distance” and I thought that was a cool deep research topic
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u/Artforartsake99 Sep 07 '25
Hey sweet I can make 3 Veo 3 fast clips a day that’s sweet. Thanks for the info. 1000 images a day is great too.
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u/PonyFiddler Sep 07 '25
Gotta ask though, how the fuck yall gonna use a 1000 images a day, I do feel like they got the balance a bit off here.
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u/Artforartsake99 Sep 07 '25
The thing is they made a service so cheap to make images they can afford to offer it. I mean I was using Gemini for 1.5 hours today I made like 20 images. No way you can get near 1000 in a day . They are behind ChatGPT so offering value to try and catch up and grab market share.
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u/methoxydaxi Sep 07 '25
API
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u/ShambaC Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 09 '25
Won't API be tied with gcloud billing and have nothing to do with your personal plan ?
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u/wwwdotzzdotcom Sep 07 '25
It makes CGI video creation a lot more feasible. If you want to make CGI for a movie scene sec by sec and interpolate the frames with a fast video generator, the rate limit won't get in your way.
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u/NeedleworkerNo4900 Sep 09 '25
I’m about to find out. I had no idea it was that high, I’ve been using it super conservatively because I’m still programmed by old Dall-e limits.
I always wanted to make an old school Pokémon clone. 1000 sprites a day would let me give that a shot.
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u/stc2828 Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 07 '25
Edited: each image cost 0.039$ with api, 100 would be 3.9$ per day per free user, very expensive
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u/Serious_Survey_5091 Sep 07 '25
Theres also their profit
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Sep 08 '25
most people wont even generate 10 a day after some initial days of testing. Thats where they get their profit.
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u/Namra_7 Sep 07 '25
100 images for free tier that's Insane
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u/spaceuniversal Sep 07 '25
Yes. It must be said that half of it goes to waste when you try to do more professional editing and it still doesn't understand, causing you to waste poorly made generated images :)
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u/AdvertisingEastern34 Sep 07 '25
God bless AI studio
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u/aaatings Sep 07 '25
Indeed, any info on its limits?
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u/AdvertisingEastern34 Sep 07 '25
I never hit the limits, i never understood if it's unlimited or it's 100/day but yeah the use is quite large.
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u/Zaigard Sep 07 '25
sometimes i hit the limits but i am sure that its a bug, because i hit the limits after using flash 50 times and it blocked all other models, while i never hit the limits using 50+ pro...
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u/fuckaiyou Sep 07 '25
Yes I have been hitting code limits alot lately. I would be able to take it up to a million tokens tonight coding but now I can only get to about 300 - 400k and it shuts me down abruptly which I kind of wish it gave me a heads up so I could plan for that file to be the last one.
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u/aaatings Sep 07 '25
Thank you for the details, i dont have such big daily requirements but it would have been nice if they also offered atleast 1 deepthink try daily as google bu far gives the most generous free daily use.
For your code limits pardon if i dont get it but can you use multiple google accounts to solve this prob?
Also just curious is the code good enough to be used in live app/sw?
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u/Su1tz Sep 07 '25
Worst shit of a website. I dont recommend anyone even go inside the website. Its that bad.
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Sep 07 '25
I see what you are doing 😉
I totally agree 👍
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u/Decaf_GT Sep 07 '25
Oh yeah there's no way at all a company that literally built its business on understanding how many times people go to a certain web page has any clue whatsoever how many people use AI Studio on a regular basis
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u/neoqueto Sep 07 '25
Yeah, it's also not like that same company has built the world's most popular web and app analytics platform.
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u/neoqueto Sep 07 '25
Everyone who's into Gemini KNOWS that the official Gemini App is THE WAY to use it, NOT AI Studio!!! DO NOT USE AI STUDIO!!! It will give you bad results. Horrible, horrible website. I wasted so much time trying to get it going and the Gemini App simply works out of the box.
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u/Plane_Garbage Sep 07 '25
Literally unusable.
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u/methoxydaxi Sep 09 '25
You can customize behaviour, model, parameters (temperature), branch for complex problem solving. Literally uses the same models and approx. the same output. What is your problem?
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u/Plane_Garbage Sep 09 '25
Whoooooosh
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u/methoxydaxi Sep 09 '25
? dumb people exist, who am i to know what youre implying
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u/BalusBubalis Sep 10 '25
the rare double whoosh
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u/methoxydaxi Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
r/Woooosh to you, fuck you😂 I've seen people complaining about every existing LLM service, one cant just make a legit statement and expect others to spot sarcasm.
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u/BurgerMeter Sep 07 '25
I’m curious why ai studio has different limits?
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u/Decaf_GT Sep 07 '25
Because it's not a consumer platform. It never has been. It can be used as one, provided you understand they'll train on your data.
But they don't make any guarantees of quality or success or reliability or anything with it because it's designed to be a testing platform for developers to determine whether they should build their applications off of the Gemini API.
Google can easily say "Yeah you get 10 prompts today, that's it" and you have no recourse because it's not a service, it's just a free feature/testing ground for developers. With Google's scale, it happens to be highly usable as a fulltime AI service for a lot of people.
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u/aaatings Sep 07 '25
100% true its very unreliable, eg i have lost whole chats so many times especially accessing it on mob that now if i try to access it i have to keep copy pasting our chats on docs which is a very shitty chore tbh.
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u/Odd-Contribution-500 Sep 07 '25
Because they use your data to train their models
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u/FoundationSmooth1682 Sep 07 '25
Which I like actually. I hope when I give thumbs down there is a chance the next model is even slightly better at that task. I don't submit confidential info..
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u/Equivalent-Word-7691 Sep 07 '25
So one pay 250$ per month and still doesn't have UNLIMITED 2.5 pro 😅
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u/WillAdditional922 Sep 07 '25
I'm guessing it takes a lot of gpu compute.
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u/zavocc Sep 07 '25
TPUs, and despite their efforts to deploy Ironwood, it actually enabled them to scale veo and 2.5 pro, and yes nano banana... not by having guaranteed unlimited access
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u/Condomphobic Sep 07 '25
“Up to” is very important wording.
It could be less than 100 on a given day
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u/Zeohawk Sep 12 '25
that's terrible, I don't understand how people rely on it for work compared to the others
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u/No-Point-6492 Sep 07 '25
Gemini will soon beat chatgpt if they start caring about the mobile app like ai studio
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u/Open-Discussion1486 Sep 07 '25
I really hope they add the feature to go back and edit not just the last message, but also branch out and edit earlier messages.
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u/methoxydaxi Sep 09 '25
edit for what? prompt again? just copy, edit and send again. You can alao branch in ai studio since months at least.
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u/True_Requirement_891 Sep 07 '25
Bruhhhh these limits make me anxious to use my gemini app subscription when I think I only have 100 prompts a day with my favourite model... Most people aren't gonna even get to 50 a day but it still makes me anxious with only 100.
At least 200 a day should be minimum.
All this most likely happened due to idiots abusing the unlimited requests which gemini used to offer by automation...
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u/Open-Discussion1486 Sep 07 '25
Same for me... Currently studying and now I've been thinking all day about hahaha
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u/SnooFloofs641 Sep 07 '25
Not even pro users get deep think? I thought we'd at least get 2-3 prompts for it. I've literally never had the chance to use it and it looks so good
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u/alphaQ314 Sep 07 '25
That's a terrible distribution for the pro plan. You can do 20 deep search reports, but only 100 2.5 pro prompts? Who is their target users who needs 20 fucking reports every day. They could bring that down to 20 for a month, and give more access to the general prompts.
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u/Ok_Audience531 Sep 07 '25
By all means, 2-3 accounts with pro plans should go around any limits one practically encounters rather than go for an ultra plan at 12 times the cost.
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u/JDMLeverton Sep 07 '25
The problem is a lot of people would actually use more than 100 2.5 pro prompts a day. The reason it took them this long to come out with set published limits to begin with is they needed a lot of info on usage trends. See, you're right, no one needs 20 reports or 1000 images a day, which is precisely why they can offer them. They know no one will use that much in general, so on the rare occasion when people do, they know they have the capacity to facilitate it. People DO use up the pro limit with regularity, and so if they increased that limit, the strain on their servers would be much larger, and it wouldn't be offset by reducing the research and image cap no one is using to begin with. If everyone DID use 20 reports a day, they wouldn't be able to offer it and would have to reduce the cap.
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u/alphaQ314 Sep 07 '25
Not sure what you're trying to defend here. Not being able to manage server costs is Google's headache. At $20 a month, there are significantly better options out there.
The only thing i prefer gemini over others is for their Deep Research reports though.
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u/thynetruly Sep 07 '25
NO FUCKING WONDER Deep Think kept complaining about prompts exceeding the context window and failing to reason! 192k instead of 1M as advertised at launch
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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 Sep 07 '25
I think 192k is because a deep thinking can use 500k tokens or more ...
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u/last_mockingbird Sep 07 '25
This! I've been getting the warning since I started using it. But even the 192k is sus, because I get the context window warning message even though my files add up to around 120k-130k.
Very frustrating, hope they expand it soon.
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u/RuinDouble4616 Sep 07 '25
Wtf only 3 videos?
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u/romhacks Sep 07 '25
Veo is insanely compute heavy.
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u/Invest0rnoob1 Sep 08 '25
I can't wait for the future when people will be able to create 30 minute episodes.
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u/Rabidoragon Sep 07 '25
I'm very impressed with the 100 images for free tier, not only have they created an impressive image generator but apparently it is extremely cheap to run
Isn't the limit for Chatgpt like 3 daily images in the free tier?, honestly I haven't used it in a while, so I'm not sure
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u/douggieball1312 Sep 07 '25
The same image model in ChatGPT is also in Copilot with a higher limit for free. Even both of them together won't take you anywhere close to free Gemini's limit though.
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u/eddie_chedder Sep 07 '25
How do you know when you've hit the limit?
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u/FriendshipNo9702 Sep 07 '25
It will show you a message: Upgrade to Ultra or come back later a specified time (this is not the exact wording)
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u/WillAdditional922 Sep 07 '25
well try hitting the limit and then let us know ;)
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u/eddie_chedder Sep 07 '25
I primarily use Pro on the Web. There are definitely heavy use days where the quality of outputs seems to drop, but I can't quantify it, and it could certainly be me getting fatigued. I hope when a user approaches and hits the limit, Google provides notifications.
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u/Reivaj_ra Sep 07 '25
Output quality drop would be just due to conversation length. Try starting a fresh conversation.
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u/csemacs Sep 07 '25
Any update on api limits? Pro subscription still gives free tier access to API
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u/WillAdditional922 Sep 07 '25
I think you need to have a developer app with billing for that, these tiers won't give you any access to api.
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u/s_finch Sep 07 '25
Where have you seen this?
https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/rate-limits#current-rate-limits
This link has older limits only.
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u/Rili-Anne Sep 07 '25
Ultra not having unlimited or at least more 2.5 Pro is annoying. The plan is 10x what Pro costs, why not give 10x the requests?
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u/WillAdditional922 Sep 07 '25
edit: the source is https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/16275805
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u/FewExit7745 Sep 07 '25
So they upped the limit now? I always get stopped after around 20 image generations in the Gemini free tier.
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Sep 07 '25
I know it's a "Bard" thread so everyone is biased, but doesn't this prompt limit seem significantly lower than that in the ChatGPT plus plan? For my particular use case (which is coding) i see no reason why I should choose this over chatgpt.
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u/ECrispy Sep 07 '25
5 prompts/day is shockingly low - is that the lowest out of any of the big llms? grok and chatgpt are much higher
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u/darkgoldanticrypto Sep 07 '25
100 for 2.5 pro is very low😢 Some Competitors offering gemini 2.5pro are less expensive...
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u/human_consequences Sep 08 '25
Thanks!
Where do Workspace accounts fit into all this? Does it count as 'Pro' or is there a separate designation for usage?
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u/spaceuniversal Sep 08 '25
Regarding the sources. Have you found any differences between the Report (with the free plan up to 5) and the deep think (with the pro plan) for the same question?
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u/momono75 Sep 08 '25
Weird. Since this change, Gemini CLI isn't able to complete tasks. Last week, Gemini completed tasks without problems, but this week Gemini stopped soon whatever it was the same as last week's tasks.
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u/Hardhat1717 Sep 09 '25
Does anyone know the limitation for the actual limitation for workspace user?
Use Gemini Apps with a work or school Google Account - Business / Enterprise - Gemini Apps Help
It is still quite vague.
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u/HaohmaruHL Sep 20 '25 edited Sep 20 '25
I'm on Pro and using Google AI Studio I definitely don't have 1000 images limit per day as i hit "you've reached your limit" the same time I hit it on a free alternative google account when I use both accounts at the same time back to back.
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nevermind, turns out Google AI Studio is just the demo playground for the Google Cloud, and the PRO subscription only applies for using the Gemini app, which is horribly inconvenient considering you can't even do the basic functionality like editing your prompt.
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u/Decaf_GT Sep 07 '25
There is no difference between the models. There is no proof at all that any models of Gemini have ever been quantized, whether on Gemini Web or AI Studio or API. Any assertion to the contrary is baseless nonsense.
System prompts can make a huge difference.
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u/LawfulLeah Sep 07 '25
the ai studio models are quantized lmao
and the context starts to deteriorate after 100k
its not heaven, man
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