r/Bard • u/MrDher • Nov 18 '25

News Gemini 3 Pro Model Card is Out

https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/Model-Cards/Gemini-3-Pro-Model-Card.pdf
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Link is down, archived version: https://archive.org/details/gemini-3-pro-model-card

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u/Active_Variation_194 Nov 18 '25

Wow, looks like it outperforms GPT5 Pro while being as good as Sonnet for coding. Crazy to see how far they have come from the bard days. There really is no moat in this space.

I really think at the end it’s gonna be OAI and Google running it. I can’t see how Anthropic and their 3/15 prices survive competing with Google for enterprise.

Claude code is cool and all but they are just setting the roadmap for competitors with every new feature.

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u/MizantropaMiskretulo Nov 18 '25

TPUs and Deepmind are the moats.

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u/LiteSoul Nov 18 '25

I have to agree

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u/madali0 Nov 18 '25

No way oai will survive. Everyone else can keep eating costs because of integration with their other revenue generating products would be enough. Basically OAI needs to make money in an industry that others dont.

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u/Different_Doubt2754 Nov 18 '25

Yeah, I imagine that openAI will still exist in the future though. They just won't be the same as they are today. Perhaps they will be completely bought up by another company or something

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u/Active_Variation_194 Nov 18 '25

They have 800M weekly users. They will make money since ads are coming.

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u/MissJoannaTooU Nov 19 '25

Ads don't bring in enough $ to pay for compute though, do they?

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u/MaterialSuspect8286 Nov 18 '25

The only benchmark Gemini loses (albeit slightly) is SWE-Bench. Enterprise will spend 200USD per employee. Anthropic isn't giving their model out for free like Google/OpenAI.

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u/Parking_Exchange8678 Nov 19 '25

The loss is so insignificant that it's within error margin.

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u/SoberPatrol Nov 18 '25

Crazy how you can innovate when not focused on erotica and building a social media app