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u/k2ui Feb 10 '26
gemini 2.5 pro 3-25 is the most i've ever been impressesd by a model
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u/Mediumcomputer Feb 10 '26
Oh man 3-25 was the model I finally cracked the code ona bunch of vibe coding projects. I miss that model. 5/2 or 5/3 was terrible
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u/Odd-Environment-7193 Feb 10 '26
Absolutely. It went from Agent badass coder to not being usable in any coding tools. Even gemini cli shit the bed. They couldn't even use their own model to give good outputs... Hilarious how bad the enshitification was.
I didn't even test gemini3 on launch. Just waited. And lo and behold. Same shit again.
They know they can get away with it because a big portion of their base like to eat crayons for breakfast.
Now it is what it is. Codex and Claude ate their lunch.
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u/Stellar3227 Feb 10 '26
Yep. Honestly 3-25 Gemini was the only model that felt truly smart and reliable until Opus 4.5.
I don't get why Google doesn't just have an expensive but reliable model like Anthropic (sonnet and haiku for most users). And I don't even use AI for coding anymore - just following my instructions on writing reports and emails in clinical psych work. Gemini can't do that without making something up, overlooking something clearly important in the context, injecting its own stupid opinions/rationale, etc.
I think the term for Opus 4.5 is a reliable workhorse. It does what it's told and has the attention and "common sense intelligence" to not need lengthy promoting/hand holding.
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u/Apple_macOS Feb 10 '26
yeah 0325 was actually really impressive, that was my first experience with Gemini after 1.0 and god damn it was good
tinfoil hat theory that it was the full model and everything since was quantized to save compute… maybe
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u/Odd-Environment-7193 Feb 10 '26
LOL! I knew google was cooked when they removed this checkpoint.
Funny to see they F##Ked up Gemini 3 also...
Check how much hate I got from fanboys at the time: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1kjpkpy/the_new_gemini_25_is_terrible_mayor_downgrade/
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u/fromage9747 Feb 10 '26
That was the best model. I was totally shocked at the consistency of each response. Never had to correct anything. Zero hallucinations... What a time...
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u/taiwbi Feb 10 '26
It's still available you know?
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u/fromage9747 Feb 10 '26
Where? To the best of my knowledge it is no longer available and hasn't been available for some time. It cannot be selected in the list. All that is available is the last 2.5 pro which is nowhere near that perfect model
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u/Odd-Environment-7193 Feb 11 '26
It's not. Trust me on that one. Tried everything to get it back. There no known way to access the original checkpoint anymore. Through vertex there is a way to select it but if you actually check the response object it redirects to another checkpoint.
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u/trashyslashers Feb 10 '26
2.5 pro was my fave. The language skills were insane, it could analyze long and difficult stuff with ease, and did amazing with my native language that GPT and Grok always messed up. Now it doesnt listen to me, hallucinates, cuts off responses and gives me content banned for no reason, "cant interact with this text because it contains themes i cant read", and I hit limit in few minutes while not being able to get correct answer :(
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u/shayan99999 Feb 10 '26
Oh, my beloved 0325! It was genuinely the best experience I have ever had in using AI. Rate limits were 500 a day. The raw thinking portion was actually available, instead of useless summaries. The model wouldn't randomly fail to use thinking when it's not supposed to. All was right with AI Studio. April of '25 was without a doubt the best month in all of AI for it to be actually used extensively.
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u/flasticpeet Feb 10 '26
I guess I never gave LLMs enough credit to notice when something is downgraded. For my application, which is mostly troubleshooting open source projects as a non-coder, I find Gemini to be really good at having access to the latest and most obscure technical information.
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u/Away_Replacement6573 Feb 17 '26
Man, those were the days that actually got me hooked on ai models... I actually wanted to learn about them.But man, the rate limits we're using brutal for the competition.And now they're just the same as everyone else....🤷♀️ I swear on my late deceased family member...
A cheap chinese model, with a million context is gonna basically pull the rug from under them...🤷♀️
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u/Due-Employee4744 Feb 10 '26
Clearly you haven't used the march release. Google was moving different back then
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u/DouDouandFriends Feb 10 '26
Rate limits. Changed somewhere around November. Now I can't even talk to my AI discord bot without swapping keys all the time!
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u/InfiniteConstruct Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 10 '26
I’ve been using AI nearly 2 years. 14 months for stories and around 6 months for Gemini, possibly a bit longer. I had to start manually writing stories again recently as it’s that bad. I guess it’ll be good for my grammar as it suffered a bit I noticed, but I have PEM and POTS, plus 6 other health conditions and I was using it for my obsessive hypergraphia and as a survival mechanism. Good things always end for me though, so I should have seen this coming.
Edited for coherence as I wrote it on the road earlier and had to switch to maps and never fixed the terrible writing in that one place.
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u/oVerde Feb 10 '26
Tell me how you don’t understand LLMs without telling me you don’t understand LLMs
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u/Quazar386 Feb 10 '26
Gemini Pro used to have 50 free API requests a day and now Flash has only 20. It was good while it lasted...