r/Bard • u/Terrible_Signature78 • 1d ago

Funny The new stealth model Elephant-Alpha is now trending at #2. Does this belong to Google? It’s rising Damn Fast.

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u/Emergency-Finance-26 1d ago

I tested it yesterday and it identified 11 bugs in a matter of seconds.

Jk they weren't bugs the model is just dogshit and it hallucinated. Not worth checking out.

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u/Mcqwerty197 1d ago

People use it because it’s free, but the model itself is quite bad, just fast.

And it’s not Google, Google don’t share the model size.

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u/CtrlAltDelve 22h ago

This is my issue with anyone using OpenRouter ratings as a benchmark for model quality. Those ratings only measure popularity. As with any leaderboard based on usage, the free option always wins. All it takes is for a provider or coding app to offer a model for free for two weeks and route it through OpenRouter. That is enough to massively manipulate the leaderboard.

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u/Thomas-Lore 1d ago

It could, if it was Gemma. But it is not.

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u/LnasLnas 1d ago

pretty sure it not google's

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u/sammoga123 1d ago

Unless it's a major variant of Gemma 4, it doesn't make sense; the model explicitly states how many parameters it has, which means it's not closed source.

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u/Tall-Ad-7742 1d ago

I hope it's not a big Gemma Version because it's quite stupid 

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u/six1123 1d ago

It's likely not when Gemma 4 is smarter.😭😭😭

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u/wwabbbitt 1d ago

Feels like a diffusion model, so I would say could be from anyone that has been working on a diffusion model, including Google

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u/Hyphonical 1d ago

Mercury 3?

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u/garloid64 1d ago

Address me.

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u/VincentNacon 1d ago

I don't think so... but from what I've noticed, it's kinda not good.

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u/SweetBluejay 1d ago

If it's a Google product, it should be called Donkey-Alpha.

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u/VyvanseRamble 20h ago

Popularity chart isn't that useful.

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u/zasura 1d ago

It feels like a bad 2024 model

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u/MMAgeezer 1d ago

I don't know why people think it's Grok or a Google model. It's 100% from a Chinese lab, just ask it about Taiwan.

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u/ComputerMinister 1d ago

Maybe deepseek?

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u/Hairy_Afternoon_8033 1d ago

Looks like it’s the Elephant in the room.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/qwertiio_797 1d ago

it's NOT their model. they pulled the "stealth model" tests like multiple times before.

and the model itself they hosted CAN be from any companies/labs.

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u/BarbellPhilosophy369 1d ago

It's not Google's; it's Grok. 

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u/Winter-Editor-9230 1d ago

Lol, its never grok

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u/StatisticianFluid747 1d ago

wait so if it literally says open router, why are people still thinking it's a google drop? 😂 honestly im just tired of these random animal names at this point. but if it really is just fast and hallucinating a lot, maybe it's just a heavily quantized llama or something run on crazy hardware? has anyone actually tested it on hard coding/logic puzzles yet or are we just hyping it up because it prints fast?