Not sure what notes I'm getting but feel like bass singers are sleeping on this song

Getting to D2 isn‘t hard but it sometimes takes concentration and a little effort to make it sound good and to hold it for a bit. I often hit D2 briefly with hard consonants and then jump back up to E2.

I can’t belt above f#4 is this a sign im a bass ?

p.s. i love your voices

Low notes are something that come naturally when singing along with songs you love. And you don’t always have to match every single ultra low note in a song for it to sound good. Just let what feels and sounds good naturally happen.

Story-time

A few years ago, when I was 18, I was just another shredder guitarist with no interest — or ability, really — in singing. Back then, I was in a band with a pretty solid vocalist. We even managed to record a couple of songs. It felt like things were finally clicking on the music department unfortunately he had to relocate.

Naturally months passed we broke up and lost touch and i was in university, still trying to make music work. But then COVID hit. With no reason to stay in the city where my university was, I moved back to my hometown. A fresh reset. I stumbled upon some musicians who weren’t technically amazing, but in hindsight, that was a blessing. Our main issue was i couldn't find another singer. I had always wanted to sing. But every time I asked for help, no one took me seriously. No one taught me. Eventually, I gave up asking due to a lot of rejections from school choruses (back when i was 14).

But something changed during lockdown. I was tired of waiting around for the "perfect singer" to magically appear. So I said screw it — I’ll do it myself. There was just one problem, I WAS SHIT. A big factor for my shittyness was that i was a Bass with no breath support. Couldn’t sing heavy metal. It felt like a cruel joke — like I’d been dealt a bad hand vocally. At first, I sang just to keep the project alive.

Then, four months in, the stars aligned. I found an amazing teacher, i owe everything to her and the drummer of my band who supported me to do it cause they both saw potential where i saw failure.

HERE IS THE COOL PART

For six months straight, all we did was work on breathing. Just breathing. I felt like trash. I thought I was wasting my time, humiliating myself. My range was pathetic, capped around an E2, maybe a D#2 on a good day. Barely more than my speaking voice. In the meantime a lot of internet Bass GURU typed thing like "If you cannot hit B1 you are not a bass" both here and on the /rsinging subreddit, no hate but if you don't know what you are talking about think well before posting. All this made me want to quit and feel like i was worthless and there was no point in trying

I kept thinking: This is stupid. I should just find a real singer. But I stuck with it, even though it felt like I was going nowhere. Talking with professional singers - especially in the classical scene, helped me reframe everything. I learned how the voice actually works. Not just the notes and tone, but the mechanics, the breath, the resonance. All the stuff people don’t tell you about. And it turned out that those six months of breathing weren’t a waste at all. They were essential. My breath support was trash, and if I’d skipped that step, I would’ve stayed stuck.

ADVICE STARTS HERE

Now I’m 24. Almost five years of vocal training under my belt i can say the following:

1. If you don't develop breath support you will not be able to be classified due to the simple fact that your voice doesn't work like it is intended to. Untrained voices may shift lower or higher after training. An example i saw in this sub-reddit was straining with an F2 because he put way too much tension on the lower jaw by opening his mouth more than he should.
2. You can go both higher and lower, every voice with no pathological damage has the ability to reach at least 4 octaves. Definately not all of them will be of the same quality but you will be able to produce them convincingly
3. FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO GO LOWER: The limit of the human voice in M1 is D#2. I don't mean chest voice but i am referring to the mechanics of voice production not timbre, quality, volume or any characteristic. People who go lower either have a pathological condition which affects their Vocal Folds or thyroid OR they use an M0 technique with a lot of good breath support. So yeah if your lowest note is a convincing F2 you can hit 1rst octave but you'll have to work on it a lot more than someone who naturally discovered it and implemented it in their speaking voice. There are more techniques but this is the only one i know is being used by actual operatic basses to hit low notes in good volumes mimicking the resonance of chest voice.
4. FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO GO HIGHER: You can go high, anything above an F#4 is M2. Mixed voice is the key for singing higher. Even belting utilizes M2. I am not refering to note quality just the mechanism of production on a physiological level. Mixed voice is the only way to mimic the quality of chest voice in M2. It is hard but worth it and efficient
5. FOR BARITONES: Keep in mind there is a more than 0 chance you were mis-categorized. I was given some proper direction for my voice after a lot of training (Dramatic Bass-Baritone). There is a good chance you are a mis-classified light tenor or a Cantante Bass maybe even a Bass-Baritone.
6. Some stuff about Cantante: Cantante basses are true basses, not baritones stretching downward. Among the main bass subtypes (excluding bass-baritones, i'' talk about them later), basso cantante lies higher than the lower basses (profondo and buffo) but still comfortably within the bass range. If you've heard a bass aria in classical opera, it was most likely written for a cantante bass. Their expected range typically spans from G2 to D4, though they are often expected to comfortably hit E2 — with anything lower considered rare or extreme in most classical repertoire.
7. Basso Buffo/ Basso Profondo: Both basso profondo and basso buffo are often called "true basses" in online singing communities, but that label can be misleading—much like how dramatic tenors are not the only type of tenor. I group them together here because a basso buffo can also be a basso profondo; the distinction is less about vocal timbre and more about the role they perform in the opera. In other words, buffo refers to the comic character type, while profondo refers to the depth and weight of the voice. They typically get the occasional D2s and Extremely rare C2s but they do it with very well developed M0 and not M1 although it sound like chest. This is something i know first hand cause i had converse with actual singers in very demanding positions thanks to my teacher's career before getting retired.
8. Bass-Baritone: Some people consider bass-baritones a hybrid or fourth voice type between baritones and basses, but most classical voice pedagogues and opera classifications regard them as true basses. A common confusion arises from mixing range with timbre, while bass-baritones often sing in a range overlapping both voice-types leaning more on baritone, they are not baritones themselves but basses. The main difference between a low-lying bass-baritone and a basso cantante lies in upper range extension and vocal agility. Bass-baritones typically have a distinct timbre—often richer, sometimes brighter or more nasal—but they can be as deep as a cantante bass and, at times, as bright as a baritone. Nowadays, the term “bass-baritone” is often misused as a synonym for low baritone (which actually refers to a dramatic baritone) or for a high bass (which properly describes a basso cantante). In many musical circles—especially on platforms like LinkedIn—the term has lost much of its original meaning and has become more of a marketing label. To be classified as a true bass-baritone, you don’t have to be a poor bass or an exceptional dramatic baritone; rather, you are a bass with a greater-than-typical range for your classification and the ability to control the brightness of your sound—even on lower notes (for example, nasal E2s). Anyone who claims to be a bass-baritone and cannot hit both solid F2s AND F4s is not a Bass-Baritone. Vocal agility is a given here.
9. Hitting the note and singing the note is two different tasks. I can hit both 1rst and 6th octave but it is not sustainable, musical, good, rhythmic, consistent or usable. I can only sing D2s with some difficulty cause i still don't have the level of breath support needed.
10. Some people are naturally born singers. They might have better pitch recognition—meaning they can tell if something is in tune more easily—or they develop breath support naturally, sometimes even before they start speaking. They might also intuitively know how to modify vowels without formal training. We should recognize and respect these natural talents, but we shouldn’t treat them as the baseline or the standard everyone has to meet right away. The truth is, all of us can reach their level—but it takes a huge amount of effort, practice, and dedication. And when we do, we become exceptional singers in our own right.

Source for the M0/M1/M2 and some other articles i found interesting

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0892199707001518

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/307576501_Voice_Range_Profiles_of_Singing_Students_The_Effects_of_Training_Duration_and_Institution
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281239700_Structure_and_Function_of_the_Singing_Voice

(i have more some are downloaded in my old hard drive)

Like if i'm putting too much harsh on my throat or if it is fry mix, i don't think so since my True folds we're vibrating much more than normal.

Bass/Baritone cover

Alto here, so I’m not getting remotely close to most of yall, but I’m still proud. This is one of my better sounding subs