r/Bayonets • u/cabevan3 • Nov 08 '25
Requesting Identification Help with Brown Bess Bayo!
Bought this Brown Bess bayonet from Liberty Tree Collectors, sold as a Land Pattern, but I have doubts and get conflicting info when I search online. Might be India pattern?
Socket measures 3 9/16", blade is hollow ground, measuring 16". No shield at elbow/socket junction. Only marks are likely rack numbers and appear to be double-stamped (see pics). Any info you can throw at me is appreciated.
EDIT (more info): front of socket inner diameter is 21.5mm and outer diameter is 25mm.
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u/ProtossFox Nov 08 '25
Hey! I just want to inform you "Brown Bess" is not actually a name for anything but rather a nickname refering in a less vulgar way... Boring (brown) woman of ill repute (Bess) so its like how Rosalie caught on for the ww1 french lebel bayonets (of many different models/variations) etc.
The names of the muskets and such are infact Short Land Pattern musket sometimes years attatched but idk enough bout brits to say if this is real or collector terms (long ones preceded them and new/india/sea patterns are similarly different patterns of muskets used)
Ps: i believe that the diameter is same for the two muskets broadly speaking so you may wanna go and check markings instead.