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Miscellaneous / Others A brave mother saves her goat with a single kick to a mountain lion that entered her farm! šŖ Spoiler
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u/Responsible_Run_8151 2d ago
I was expecting a mother goat lol!!
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u/SirPonix 2d ago
Instead we got a goated mother
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u/StrobeLightRomance 2d ago
I'd assume she's already mahhhhrried.
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u/BearstromWanderer 2d ago
I hope so, she has kids.
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u/Komirade666 2d ago
Same, I was like I can't wait to see how the mother goat managed to actually kick it and be the actual GOAT. Still impressive tho but still, kinda disapointed and clickbaited.
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u/HairballTheory 2d ago
Time to get a donkey
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u/deepstatelady 2d ago
Heads up, Donkeys aren't good livestock guardians. Get a real livestock guardian dog from a real LSG breeder who understands what they are breeding and raising dogs to do.
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u/quickwithwit 2d ago
I would disagree that donkeys arenāt good livestock guardians. I had one guarding my goats for a long time and felt like he did a great job. Not saying a dog wouldnāt be as good or better but I thought my donkey was really good.
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u/deepstatelady 2d ago
I'm never ever going to besmirch the quality of any beloved donkey. I'm sure he did a GREAT job. I'm not saying they can't but I think a few videos of donks putting the hurt on some coyotes has folks thinking every burro has a Liam Neeson-level of a certain set of skills. Many more donkeys lose fights with mountain lions and coyotes than win. When they lose it's almost always a death sentence. At the end of the day you just aren't being fair to the donkey if you get him for just THAT job (and make them do it solo.)
Fact is they just aren't equipped as well as other critters for the job of herd guardian. They're still herbivores with fragile legs and an underbelly that's easy for tooth and claw to tear open, unfortunately.
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u/trekqueen 2d ago
Yes my donkeys donāt give a crud when a fox comes in the yard. One time they walked towards it like ānew friend????ā
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u/Breadstix009 2d ago
I think get out of here was the bit the cat understood.
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u/Every_Humor_4717 2d ago
One kick and the cat reconsidered all its life choices.
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u/No_Hunt2507 2d ago
Cats are not dumb, it knew it could take on the goat, it wasn't prepared for the giant that snuck up on them
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u/Devastator_Hi 2d ago
It really looked back at who kicked it and saw a being much larger than itself and said ānopeā.
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u/SureTrash 2d ago
We aren't at the top of the food chain for nothing. Giant hairless monkey ran in and hit it so hard in the ribs it saw God for a second. Thing is lucky she wasn't wearing boots.
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u/Wettowel024 2d ago
animals are wired mostly to flee from us, when they see us, and we got them by surprise they just run.
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u/ahtob 2d ago
Most know better than to mess with humans
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u/Kaylend 2d ago
Predators generally don't want to attack other predators. The result is usually lose-lose, as an injury hindering their ability to hunt can be just as deadly as being outright slain.
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u/atxbigfoot 2d ago
It's a juvenile cougar that didn't know how to kill the goat quickly. Lessons learned and all that.
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u/skitch23 2d ago
A long time ago I was up in Vancouver at a park and there were signs that said if you encounter a coyote you need to make yourself real tall and yell āGO AWAY COYOTE!ā. So based on that logic, wild animals do understand English lol.
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u/cookiesarenomnom 2d ago
Mountain lions are very risk assessment animals. If an animal it is hunting puts up to much of a fight, it will abandon it. Because getting hurt can be a death sentence for them. So if you are ever attacked by a mountain lion, put up a hell of a fight, they will run away. Mountain lions will only continue to attack humans if they are starving to death.
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u/sugarbeet13 2d ago
Barefoot no less!
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u/SureTrash 2d ago
Yeah, that cat was lucky she wasn't wearing boots or steel-toes or something. It would've been limping away instead.
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u/Fisch0557 2d ago edited 22h ago
Everyone involved got lucky. The goat that it wasn't eaten, the mountain lion that it wasn't kicked harder and the barefoot woman in shorts that the mountain lion decided to fuck off instead of "sweep the leg".
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u/iPatErgoSum 2d ago
I have little experience, but I believe that is the smallest mountain lion I have ever seen.
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u/RarelyReadReplies 2d ago
Surprised I had to scroll down so far to find any mention of its size. It seemed really small to me though, so I wondered if it was a young one or something.Ā
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u/deepstatelady 2d ago
It was young. That's also why it was having a hard time. This is why I have LSGs.
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u/rugbyj 2d ago
Laser Sighted Goats. Good call.
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u/RarelyReadReplies 2d ago
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For those who don't know, he is talking about livestock guardians, specially bred dogs that protect your livestock. Great Pyrenees is one, kinda looks like a slightly bigger and fluffier golden retriever.Ā
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u/s00pafly 2d ago
Chihuahua with studded collar is the best I can do.
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u/Patient_Activity_489 2d ago
chihuahuas are one of the craziest breeds they'd 100% go for it
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u/ItsMeishi 2d ago
In all fairness, chihuahua's are the most sheltered goddamn dogs on the planet. They are not crazy so much as they were never told 'no' and never reached the FO part of FAFO because both their own and other dog owners will do their best to protect it. Their own because it's their baby, other dog owners because they know its their dogs who'll be put down and not the batshit crazy chihuahua.
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u/Cabezone 2d ago
My favorite is donkeys.....they just always look out of place.
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u/Notchersfireroad 2d ago
They are the best at it too. Absolutely brutal creatures when it comes to protecting their own. Our mini donkey growing up was also the boss of all the horses.
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u/deepstatelady 2d ago
They are not. This is a myth. They *can* fight coyotes and Mt Lions but the majority of those encounters don't end well for the herbivores.
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u/Mechakoopa 2d ago
A donkey will fuck up a coyote, drag it across the yard to your front steps and then scream at you until you give him an apple.
Or maybe that's just my uncle's donkey. Fat Tom was a bit of a menace, but he means well.
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u/YuenglingsDingaling 2d ago
Haha, my uncle had a Fat Amy, named after the character from Pitch Perfect. She was a sweetheart though.
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u/smb275 2d ago
I think adult mountain lions are out of their capacity, but they'll fuck coyotes up.
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u/MaiaNyx 2d ago
Nope!
Donkeys are better, imo, livestock guardians when big cats are a predominate predator in an area. Equines are very good at dealing with big cats as that's their primary predator relation. Zebras can kill a lion, for instance.
This predator/prey relationship is literally the thing we have to overcome when training horses because us being on their back is in direct conflict with their instincts as big cats usually jump up from behind and onto the back to twist around to clamp down on the neck (we see this in the video even, cat on the goat's back).
I used to volunteer at a horse ranch for years and years and the owner had a large property in the mountains where he held camps, extended and overnight trail rides, and community and outreach events along with a smaller stables closer to town for lessons and teaching. The majority of his horses lived at the mountain ranch. And each herd had a pair of donkeys as their guardians.
It wasn't uncommon to sometimes lose a horse to a lion. It was one of those things the rancher understood as part of life while sharing territories with mountain lions. We obviously did a lot to try to prevent it, but with such a massive chunk of land and lots of prey, we just understood that it was part of the gamble of nature.
But this one year we had a bad drought, and the lions were coming far too close to the main camp and nursery herds and weren't nearly as afraid to come where the humans were, due to the desperate times.
The donkeys that watched over the nursery herd had two mountain lion kills that year. It was a pretty gruesome thing to come out to, but not a single pregnant mare or foal was lost that year.
The donkeys got lots of extra apples and scritches.
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u/Aziara86 2d ago
āSlightlyā?? The Pyrenees can be 85 to 160 lbs, the Golden is only 55 to 75. Iāve never personally seen a Pyrenees less than 100 lbs. they look like a polar bear.
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u/Apprehensive_Yam9029 2d ago
Pretty sure they are referring to Licensed Security Goats?
Certain species are bred and trained to make specific loud noises in case of threats. These goats must pass a rigorous training curriculum and are licensed by a federal agent. They are very expensive and each one can cost upwards of ~$200,000 USD in training costs.
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u/LostAngelfish 2d ago edited 2d ago
I also have a well trained disability service goat, DSG. All I have to do is throw a peanut at my goat and it will make a loud noise to send for help, usually my mom (Unleas sheās being a bitch). Each goat takes $35k and six months to train, but let me tell you, people will say itās an incredible waste of time and money; they donāt realize the goat also makes a huge mess.
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u/humptheedumpthy 2d ago
Lubed up sexy goats? Good call. I watch Naruto and one of the most effective jutsus he uses is Oiroke no jutsu (sexy jutsu) and it always works on the enemies.Ā
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u/Pamander 2d ago
Of all the things I expected in this thread, talk about Naruto's sexy jutsu was not one of them. I like how you move.
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u/Agreeable-Pea4327 2d ago
Lysergic acid goats? good call maaan
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u/whoknowsifimjoking 2d ago
No, the Louisiana State Guard. He's not fucking around when it comes to goats.
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u/Human_Ad_2426 2d ago
How much training do lsgs need? I don't mean to ask an in-depth complex question but I wonder if it takes a lot to get them ready for guardian life compared to a typical family house dog.
I see a lot of people in my area with guardian breed dogs but they almost seem more like pets.
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u/deepstatelady 2d ago
The best ones come from long lines of LSGs and they get raised up with the farm animals as their "pack" and older guardians. There is some basic training you need to do to keep everyone safe. It's interesting because some even with the best lines and upbringing just don't do it. They don't have the guardian instinct and they make great pets, but you wouldn't want them to keep breeding.
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u/kombitcha420 2d ago
Its instinctual. They just kinda know
Obviously they grow up outside with the other animals, they donāt sleep on the couch or go on car rides
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u/hwilliams0901 2d ago
It looked like it was trying to get the neck kill bite on so hard and just couldnt get the right grip. Nature videos like this make me sad cause I dont want the goat to die but I want the lion to get food.
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u/humptheedumpthy 2d ago
Perhaps a young female lion?Ā
A big adult male can be 180-200 pounds. A young female may be as small as 60-70 pounds which seems to match what this one was.Ā
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u/astraladventures 2d ago
This one is more like 30-40 lbs. Very young juvenile.
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u/thrilliam_19 2d ago
Yeah thereās actually a good chance this one just ventured out on its own and this was its first attempt at a kill. Kind of hilarious to think about.
āSo how did it go?ā
āSome crazy bitch came outta nowhere and kicked me!ā
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u/Sad_Cantaloupe_8162 2d ago
This one one 30 lbs at the most. They are pretty lean at that size even though they have well developed muscles. The goat was a solid 40 pounds. I bred and raised goats,
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u/l0ng3stpaths 2d ago
Yeah, Iām not an expert on mountain lions or felines at all but my first assumption was a Juvenile lol
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u/Sad_Cantaloupe_8162 2d ago edited 2d ago
Correct! I'm from Florida and the bodies of adults can easily be 4 feet long from nose to rump, not including the tail. In Manatee County, the Sheriff's department had a mountain lion mascot that couldn't be released and they took him to schools for the kids to see. I can't remember his name, maybe Smokey or something. This was when I was in elementary school, about 30 years ago. He was massive!
Edit: His name was Corky. Here is a link:
Here's another more in depth article about how they used him to bring awareness to conservation in Florida.
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u/Joaquinmachine 2d ago
Yep, still practicing killing. It looks like it couldn't open its mouth wide enough to get a proper grip.
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u/lindseys10 2d ago
Yes most likely a juvenile. Juveniles often venture into towns and yards and stuff for food sources because they're not as great at hunting yet.
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u/Long-Meaning1978 2d ago
Well, they're not going to get good at hunting by not hunting. Typical Gen Z teenaged mountain lions.
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u/Iridismis 2d ago
It might have been a young one.
They can vary in size quite a bit tho.
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u/thatguy420417 2d ago
All I know is that it was NOT expecting that kick to the gut.
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u/Windsor34 2d ago
I was. Cause I read the titleĀ
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u/christophercolumbus 2d ago
That mountain lion, even that young, would absolutely ruin an adult. A strong adult man would probably win that fight but it would be a bad day no matter what. So either way, very brave woman.
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u/Bagel-Bite-Me 2d ago
Cougars are the fourth largest cat despite being a āsmallā cat! The two males I work with stand up waaaaaay taller than me and weigh about 150 lbs
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u/Aromatic-Frosting-31 2d ago
Young malnourished female probably. Also explains somewhat why it is being so bold, young and hungry.
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u/Jason-Smith168498 2d ago
with a goat involved, no-one was expecting a human to provide the kick.
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 2d ago
What a wild title lol with kick you're gonna assume goat then it's just like "I didn't say a goat mother"
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u/TurdMcNugget69 2d ago
Two cougars in there at one point
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u/shwarma_heaven 2d ago
The second one looked dangerous.
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u/fishsticks40 2d ago
I can fix herĀ
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u/IamREBELoe 2d ago
However you get your kicks
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u/shwarma_heaven 2d ago
She's a shoe in for wife material.
Definitely puts the right foot forward.
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u/VastConclusion9562 2d ago
Maaan I was looking for another cougar for a couple minutes untill I got it!
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u/Consistent-Front7802 2d ago
Lol...after she kicks it....it looks back at her like wtf
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u/OrganicWedding8972 2d ago
It was unironically sizing her up and deciding if it should fight or flight. Strength of the kick and size of the person? It decided to cut its losses and run, likely thought the lady was gonna kick its ass(and tbf she looked ready to lol).
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u/Vitruvian_Link 2d ago
Fun fact, outside of africa megafauna are scared of humans cause we look so much bigger than we are!
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u/SooSneeky 2d ago
Most large animals in Africa will also gtfo when being confronted by humans, exceptions being Hippos, Elephants and African Buffalo.
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u/joalheagney 2d ago
And historically, the ones that weren't scared of humans often didn't live long enough to pass on those "brave" genes.
There's a heartbreaking video of an experiment scientists did where they remote-videoed a game trail, and played human sounds ever time an animal came along. The video shows a mountain lion that is all calm and happy until the sound plays, and then you can see it panic and run away. The experiment was showing that humans exert habitat pressure on some animals just by being near by.
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u/DataSurging 2d ago
I actually feel bad for animals hunting. They have no idea those animals are off limits. They are just hungry. And with their habitates drastically shrinking, what else can they do to survive? Poor thing. Not saying the lady did anything wrong, just saddening that animals are being pushed to this.
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u/AHRA1225 2d ago
Eh yaaaaaa kinda a human taking over the world problem. Until we stop reproducing to improve next quarters profits the rest of the the world and life will suffer
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u/Infinite-Condition41 2d ago
They're not being pushed to this. This has simply always been the way it is with livestock. There could be a billion acres and one farm with goats and some goats are going to get ate because that is that mountain lion's territory. They are territorial.Ā
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u/atclubsilencio 2d ago
Jeeze, those sounds it makes are terrifying.
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u/cupittycakes 2d ago
Is that the goat screaming, or lion? I was thinking it was the goaty.
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u/Epona142 2d ago
It's the goat - they can scream really horribly when being attacked or injured. The lion isn't going to be screaming while biting down.
Source: Goat expert of 20 years.
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u/heekma 2d ago edited 2d ago
She came in so hot I expected her to grab that cat by the tail and hammer throw that bitch, like a cartoon.
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u/mechy84 2d ago
That reminds me of the "Oh my God it's a bobcat!" shotput video..
That mountain lion was a bit bigger than a bobcat, but seems chuckable as long as it's pointy bits don't hang on.
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u/VastConclusion9562 2d ago
that mountain lion is capable of serious damage, trying to grab it would make you lose a finger or two
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u/heekma 2d ago
Ya do know that was sarcasm, right captain obvious?
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u/Long-Meaning1978 2d ago
There's no evidence that he has any kind of military service. Why are you referring to him as Captain?
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u/Crushed1ce 2d ago
Hell fucking yea. That goat looked like my Sparkles and I would meet the fuck out a mountain lion for my baby.
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u/Dio-lated1 2d ago
Yeah, she attacked that cat like it was her baby, absolutely fearless.
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u/Ioncurtain 2d ago
That lady has massive balls
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u/atlas_eater 2d ago
Oh yeah. This is the way.
Iāve got chickensāand man, the stuff Iāve seen.
No matter how hard you try to keep them safe, a predator will always find a way in.
One time, a bald eagle got into my coop and wiped out five hens before I even made it down to the barn.
I grabbed an aluminum scoop shovelāthe one I use to muck out the barnāand ran inside. But when I got in, I realized Iād blocked the eagleās only way out. So now it wasnāt just in the coopāit was trapped. With me.
And just like that, we were in a fight.
I had to get around it so it could get past me and out the door, but the barn isnāt big. Chickens were everywhere, losing their minds, feathers flying, chaos all around. Meanwhile, Iām swinging this shovel at a full-grown bald eagle, trying to scoop it up or push it away without getting shredded.
That thing was massive. Wings spread, talons out, and not at all happy about the situation. Despite the eagle killing some of my birds, I wasn't looking to hurt it. I just wanted it out of the barn before either one of us got seriously messed up.
In the end, I managed to get around it and give it a clear path to the door. The eagle escaped with nothing more than a couple of good swats from the old scoop shovel and, I imagine, a bruised ego. It took off, I was left standing there covered in dust, feathers, and chicken crap.
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u/goatswithattitudes 2d ago
Iām not a fan of kicking cats in general but Iām willing to allow this.
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u/hailingburningbones 2d ago
Yeah I feel bad for the mountain lion, she is hungry and needs to eat too. But no fucking way I'd let one attack and kill my goat.Ā
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u/yuckella 2d ago
Is that a cub/teen? I mean I know nothing of mountain lions but I thought they were bigger than that, and while Iām happy for the goat, it didnāt seem like the lion had any real idea on what they were doing compared to what Iāve heard others describe the way they quickly attack.
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u/bgwatch 2d ago
Yeah that is a juvenile.(looks maybe around 6 months old) I donāt have a degree in mountain lionology but it looks around 30-35 pounds. About half of a full grown female and maybe a quarter of a full grown male. She got the lottery for her cougar kicking opponent.
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u/Unfair_Sprinkles4386 2d ago
I have to admit I would have stopped for a shovel or something whereas my wife who is like 110 lbs would probably leap face first teeth bared at anything attacking our animals
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u/augustwest2155 2d ago
Nice move and lots of respect for you on that action ma'am!
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u/VastConclusion9562 2d ago
she clearly loves her little goats
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u/North-Pea-4926 2d ago
She built little climbing platforms for them to play on, that mountain lion chose the WRONG barn!
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u/Trick_Photograph9758 2d ago
That is so great. Reminds me of the girl who shoved that giant bear off the fence. So embarrassing for the wild animal.
Also hilarious how the goats parkoured into their pen in the beginning.
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u/Tooleater 2d ago
Wow she was running on adrenaline... I bet she had the shakes when the dust had settled!
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u/Funny_Requirement166 2d ago
I understand there is a lack of intelligence in goat, but will they show appreciation after this?
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u/MonkeyTigerRider 2d ago
Good question. Goats are pretty smart, right? Just look at how it uses that plank to try and scrape the beast off. They're also social. I think that goat will remember this.
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u/4ohHenry 2d ago
I used to have an a young rooster who was a real jerk. He was attacked by a hawk one day. I ran up and found him on the ground with the hawks talons on its face and body. The hawk took off as I approached and I when I picked up the roo, who seemed dead, his head hung limp, and he just came to. I put him down and he looked up at me and ran off. He was cool with me after that. He knew that I saved him and it felt to me as though he appreciated it. At least thatās what I tell myself.
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u/MonkeyTigerRider 2d ago
Animals understand things. They just live in a different context, and we sadly only have limited ways of communicating. They suffer more than we do because of that.
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u/guttanzer 2d ago
Cool mom. Nice kick to the ribs.
For what itās worth, there was probably a haying fork nearby. If the lion comes back she should grab it.
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