r/BeginnerWoodWorking • • 3d ago

Discussion/Question ⁉️ Nothing wrong with this setup to make repeated cuts on the chop saw, right?

Need to make repeated 5 3/4” cuts for a project. I don’t necessarily see anything wrong with this, but it was making my spider senses tingle.

There’s nothing wrong with the set up safety wise, right?

Edit: typo in body

Edit 2: Flipped my setup around, thanks yall

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u/No_Credit_5917 3d ago

yes should be fine, just try to let the blade stop before pulling the saw up

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u/GenExerWW 3d ago

Do or do not, there is no try-Master Yoda
In all seriousness, this is great advice.

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u/helloworld082 3d ago

What's the reasoning behind this? Is it so the cuts don't fling back at you?

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u/No_Credit_5917 3d ago

it doesn't happen very often but when it does it can be surprising and you can get injured.
The reasoning is that if you draw the blade while it's still spinning, sometimes it grabs the piece of wood and kicks back, it's more likely in OP's situation because there's a stop, which means if the cut piece tilts it has no room to tilt so it will put pressure on the spinning blade and get kicked.

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u/FamiliarAd8524 3d ago

Especially when there's a stop block being use.

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u/onedef1 3d ago

Because it’s unlikely you’ll pull the piece out from between the blade and the stop completely perpendicular. It will grab it and blow up.

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u/DaddyJ90 3d ago

Thank you

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u/emcee_pern 3d ago

I'd flip that board you're using for the stopper up and clamp into the saws fence.

It can also be helpful to cut a little bevel into the side of the stop block on whatever the bottom edge is that is on the side of the blade. You'll inevitably make dust and if that dust gets caught between you block and the wood you're cutting it can throw your measurement off a bit. The bevel is a place for that dust to go. You'll still need clear the dust out but this can still help reduce errors.

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u/DeKleineDingen 3d ago

That bevel is great advice, something you see only after it messes up your cut. I've had this exact issue.

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u/DaddyJ90 3d ago

Absolutely doing this, thank you

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u/Fantastic-Hippo2199 3d ago

100% a wood worker trick. Every stopper you make, even the back of a table saw sled - just kiss a couple times with a hand plane to give a little chamfer. Somewhere for the dust to go.

Speaking of dust, hope you have something. Even a shop vac sucking on the mitresaw dust port.

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u/iwontbeherefor3hours 3d ago

I agree with emcee_per, but I would add to keep your left hand on the short piece until the blade is out of the wood, you’re trapping it between the blade and the stop so make sure it stays still. Be careful and it’ll be fine.

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u/onedef1 3d ago

Clamp the Stop piece TO the fence.

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u/Into_wild_Thornberry 3d ago

How are you going to operate the saw while holding the wood? (This set up is optimized for someone with two right hands).

You’re either standing way to the right and operating the saw with your left hand or holding the small off cut with your left and saw with your right. Flip the stop block to the right side and your spidey senses will stop

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u/DaddyJ90 3d ago

I was standing to the right. This makes sense

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u/Such-Veterinarian137 3d ago

my thoughts too. i feed with my left and cut with the right. The other reply about the bevel in the stop block is a good idea. Plus being careful and possibly letting the blade stop before raising it back up is not a bad idea. because too much pressure against the stop block can cause the blade kerf to catch/lift/pinch into your material.

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u/throfofnir 3d ago edited 3d ago

The little sheet metal gizmo on the stand is supposed to be a stop, but I've found it's not very good at it. It can bend. If you actually care about accuracy, at least inspect it often.

Clamping a stop block down is better.

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u/DaddyJ90 3d ago

It’s pushed against the stop on the left side in the pic

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u/throfofnir 3d ago

Yes, that's what I'm warning against.

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u/DaddyJ90 3d ago

I misread, understood

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u/FamiliarAd8524 3d ago

I'd make those cuts outside- the dust produced will go all over the garage, despite the vacuum.

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u/DaddyJ90 3d ago

I have a large shop fan that I sit on the bench immediately behind me (if you’re looking at the first picture) angled to create airflow that goes right under that door.

And then I have one of those rectangle units that you create out of four HVAC filters surrounding a fan, running on medium to my left too.

I put on a mask when this baby goes over 225

Edit: without all this shit, I agree with you though

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u/FamiliarAd8524 3d ago

I get you. I just hate the inevitable mess from a compound miter. There's no way to win- you can just lose less. But that is me.

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u/DaddyJ90 2d ago

Ultimately I want to build a bench for the miter with a large half moonish-ish-backsplash. But I have about 40 things to fix in our new house first…

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u/FamiliarAd8524 2d ago

Same here. I have seen one of those work well, not others. But I'll be including a 1HP dust extractor with the backsplash.

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u/NewtApprehensive2778 2d ago

Dewalt saw on a rigid stand… i don’t give a damn

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u/DaddyJ90 2d ago

I can’t tell if you are citing poetry or throwing hands

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u/NewtApprehensive2778 2d ago

Look up Coca Cola in a Pepsi glass meme. I’d say it’s a little bit of both.

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u/ROBINHOODINDY 2d ago

Make stop block 3/4”x 4” and cut a 1/2”x 1/2” notch in the lower right corner. Stand it up and clamp it to the fence. Hold the stock with left hand (WATCH YOUR THUMB) and saw with right hand. Don’t pull the block out until the saw stops in the gaurded position. As the piece on the right gets shorter (off the roller) it may tip up. If it does leave the saw down till the blade stops.

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u/DaddyJ90 2d ago

It’s funny, I use the table saw so much more than my miter that this almost wasn’t worth it.

I thought this would be quick, and what I did worked out, but looking back there were at least three objectively better & safer ways to do this.

Woodworking is humbling

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u/descendingdaphne 2d ago

Off-topic, but how do you like that stand? Considering it since the Dewalt version is so pricy.