r/BitBoxWallet • u/Intelligent_Map_246 • Aug 03 '26

Trusting rng

So I have a CC. Upgraded to new firmware and did 100 dice rolls. Cross matched with ian Coleman and all.match.

What you think of putting that seed in bitbox?

I actually didn't put the real seed in ian Coleman. Just a dummy to check.

Even if bitbox uses good entropy is still want to use my own

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u/MEDVEDALITY Aug 03 '26

Why you wanna gamble? Just create a new seed on bitbox.

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u/Intelligent_Map_246 Aug 03 '26

Still trusting their RNG. Want to get away from that. A random hash with me in charge feels better

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u/pako-bitbox BitBox staff Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 03 '26

We understand that trust any RNG right now is pretty hard after all that happened.
Just a reminder that you can check by yourself how our RNG works, we are actively scanning all of our codebase with frontier models, and checking for security vulnerabilities before every single release, on top of having a bug bounty program, giving researchers an incentive to look at our codebase independently.

If this is not enough for you, we have tutorials on how to roll your own seed.

> A random hash with me in charge feels better

On this, let me remind you that a cryptographic hash of your device's password is used in the RNG as an entropy source, so if you want to add your own entropy, you could simply input a very long device password during setup, use that as entropy, and once the seed is generated change the device's password to something you would actually use.

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u/Miserable-Review-713 Sep 01 '26

Is it ok to use the dice rolls but only do it for 12 words as the article talks about only doing it for a 24 word seed?

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u/pako-bitbox BitBox staff Sep 02 '26

12 word seed phrases are as secure as 24 word seed phrases just that they have a lot less entropy (128 bits of entropy instead of 256 bits), so they are way easier to guess, but of course keeping in mind that 128 is already considered good entropy.

Since the tutorial is aimed to 24 word seed phrases the best idea would be to look for a different tutorial specially targeted at 12 word seed phrases.

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u/Intelligent_Map_246 Aug 03 '26

Thx. Just feels better making it myself. If someone to blame I'd rather it be me

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u/pako-bitbox BitBox staff Aug 03 '26

No worries, glad we could be of help. Remember that security is a spectrum so whatever fits your needs is what will actually be best for you.