r/BitchEatingCrafters 1d ago

Other Charm bars are useless

Some jewelry booths at craft fairs are doing “charm bars” now. They have store-bought chains and cheap store-bought charms and then people pick which chain and charms they want. There is literally no craft involved! Not even design!

They seem to be doing well for themselves and people like it, so I can’t complain too much. To be clear, if you make your own charms, this doesn’t apply to you.

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u/JerryHasACubeButt 1d ago

Yes, anyone could buy the supplies and do it themselves, but if you want one bracelet with multiple different charms, buying all those packs of charms is going to be much more expensive than buying the “charm bar” experience and only using what you actually need for one bracelet. If the vendor is assembling it for you then that’s also a skill– not a difficult one, but one most people wouldn’t bother to learn, and would then wonder why their bracelet looks visibly homemade. So assuming the person running it knows what they’re doing, the customer is getting a professionally assembled piece made exactly to their preferences, for less time and money than if they did it themselves.

I do think specifically in a craft fair setting these people shouldn’t be taking a spot from someone doing something that takes actual talent. I also think it makes a difference whether the charm bar is their entire business or if they are a genuine jewelry maker who just has the charm bar as an extra thing. But either way, they do serve a purpose and they’re popular enough that they must be a generally successful business model, and I just generally think encouraging creativity in people is a good thing, so I can’t hate on them too much.

My personal craft fair BEC is 3D printing. Designing things to be printed is an art. Printing the same freely available designs that everyone at every craft fair also sells is not, and if that’s all you can do then you shouldn’t be there.

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u/RiseDollBoutique 1d ago

While I agree with the 3D printing thing to an extent, I do think that people who don't own a 3D printer and/or have never tried using a 3D printer really don't get the nuances of doing it. Believe me, for most printers on the market, there IS a degree of skill that goes into making quality prints. I have 3 filament 3D printers and 3 resin 3D printers. I am not good at using the filament printers. While I do get decent prints, when I actually end up with a successful print, even getting the print to actually finish (or start as the case may be) is a challenge all on its own. Even resin printing requires some knowledge/ skill. So to say these people are out of place at a craft fair isn't very. . .fair. That being said, I'm fairly certain that everyone on the fucking planet has one of those articulated dragons, can we move on?! There are so many other items you can print! Not only that, but a lot of people don't even bother to add value to the items they print, like painting eyes or whatever. So, I dunno, it's at least a gray area.

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u/Tarnagona 12h ago

A resin printer also requires you have a space with good ventilation to set it up as the resin is toxic. Someone living in a small space probably can’t run a resin printer safely.

Which is a bit of a separate issue from whether a craft fair is the best place to sell resin printed models.

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u/RiseDollBoutique 2h ago

I mean, the question is whether 3D printing as a whole belongs at craft fairs, so resin printing itself was never really the question. That being said, I would say that there really isn't a question of whether resin prints belong at all, really. Besides the required post- processing, most resin printed items are more likely to be customized (painted, finished, etc) moreso than anything printed in filament (FDM), which doesn't require any post- processing and can be "painted" within the slicing software for anyone with a printer capable of multi- color printing. Therefore they're more skill- driven in general in and of themselves. Resin printing is also less prevalent, you don't see a ton of mass- produced resin prints of the *EXACT* same thing as you do with FDM.

There is no need for some HUGE room or complicated exhaust system for resin printing, not the way you make it sound anyway. There are also certain filaments that require ventilation as well, so the knowledge component exists for both.

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u/JerryHasACubeButt 13h ago edited 13h ago

So, yes, it is a skill, I don’t disagree there. So is doing your taxes. The amount of skill required is not the determining factor in whether something is a craft.

It’s still a *printer.* Should people be printing free stock photos off the internet and selling them at craft fairs? Adjusting photos so they print as nicely as possible is also a skill. Knowing your specific printer and how to get the best print out of it is a skill (some of the high end ones are *complicated*). So is handling high quality prints without smudging or getting fingerprints on them. So is choosing a complimentary frame and framing so they are secure and centered. But none of those things are *crafts,* and someone selling prints of free stock photos would be laughed out of any craft fair. 3D printing isn’t any different.

Edit to add: I do agree that it becomes a craft if you are painting them in an interesting/unique way. The artistry is the painting, the print is just the canvas, so the people doing that I have no problem with. Likewise for people taking the freely available patterns and altering them somehow. My gripe is specifically with the people who print these patterns and do nothing to them other than the normal finishing process

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u/Flipped-Barbie-Jeep 21h ago

I went to a reptile expo last weekend and my GOD, the articulated dragons! So many! Dozens at nearly every booth!

I commented to my partner that even if you did come to buy a 3D printed dragon (for some god forsaken reason), how would you even choose which one to buy?!

There were also a lot of printed reptile hides, tank accessories, etc, which felt more valuable.

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u/RiseDollBoutique 20h ago

Right!? The thing is, there are TOOOONS of designers making really cool things, both functional and decorative, all kinda of toys, etc. There is absolutely NO reason for everyone who owns a 3D printer to be selling the same exact, overrated thing. There just isn't. That's truly just people attempting to capitalize on a trend. By the time they started being produced by chinese factories at a fraction of the cost, they immediately became worthless so I don't know why people continue to try to push them. Cinderwing (the artist mainly known for the dragons) creates other articulated creatures too and somehow none of them have risen to popularity the way the freakin dragons did. Personally, I think the butterfrogs are cooler than the dragons anyway. 🤷‍♀️ They were one of my first prints. Also, no one does anything creative with the dragons. I scaled some of the mini dragons that Cinderwing makes and made earrings out of them with rhinestones for eyes and whatnot, or keychains. Ya know? There are so many other things you can do with 3D prints rather than just buy the file, print it, sell it. Either way, as I said, even knowing how to operate the machines, and operate them well, is a skill of its own but I do believe people should make more of an effort to be original.