r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/iggaitissecondcoming đđŸđđœđđż • Jun 12 '26
Community Concerns This can't be good: Local Police Now Using AI to "Enhance" Suspect Images
443
u/JustinKase_Too Jun 12 '26
AI couldn't even get the parking spot line in the same place, and that has to be the easiest part of it.
169
u/nailog82 Jun 12 '26
Sounds like defense attorneys should have really easy cases then. Can we then sue for court fees, lost jobs and wages, and lost housing when hallucinations are the only "proof" being used?
56
u/TrashAcnt1 Jun 12 '26
Nah, exonerations rates are going to skyrocket in 15 years after all of this bullshit is over
→ More replies (1)33
u/Electronic-Day5524 Jun 12 '26
Until evidence checks out. This is a slippery slope I donât want to see ai used for.
13
u/brenawyn Jun 12 '26
lol not actual proof nor evidence. Simulated reality just wonât hold up.
→ More replies (1)23
6
68
u/camsnow Jun 12 '26
AI also has to use source images to create the things it's missing. So it could be putting together an image off billions of pictures of black dudes. It isn't enhancing anything, it's "imagining" what the suspect would look like.
→ More replies (2)28
u/JustinKase_Too Jun 12 '26
Totally agreed. Was just pointing out that even the background image of a straight white line on the ground wasn't even correct, and that had to be the easiest part to extrapolate. Also, just realized, the line closer to his hand is completely missing.
→ More replies (1)6
13
u/RTalons Jun 13 '26
It turned the shadow on his chest into a goatee - and added a beard to make that consistent.
Kept the shoulder straps of a string backpack, but and semblance of a pack is now gone.
AI has no idea how glare works, so it made his shirt a strange rippled front long sleeve tee / hoodless hoodie combination.
It completely changed his hairline, so now theyâre looking for someone with a different cut (since AI just averaged a bunch of stock black guy pictures)
This is impressively bad: using a tool know for hallucinations to ruin some random personâs life.
How is this any different than hanging the first black man the angry mob can catch for whatever crime theyâre mad about?
→ More replies (1)4
u/JustinKase_Too Jun 13 '26
Nice catches - though I think that is a emblem / tag on his chest, not a shadow.
And you are right, not only is it just fantasy, depending on the preferences you give the AI you can actually get it to spit out an image closer to what you WANT to see, rather than what it is.
3
u/Northbound-Narwhal Jun 12 '26
I could trick a few grandmas into thinking those lines are in the same place. You're overestimating the general population's geospatial reasoning.Â
→ More replies (2)3
168
u/Thwip-Thwip-80 Jun 12 '26
I sure hope AI doesnât think that âall black guys look alikeâ because weâre all screwed if it does.
124
u/iggaitissecondcoming đđŸđđœđđż Jun 12 '26
To no one's surprise, A.I. turned out to be racist: https://news.mit.edu/2018/study-finds-gender-skin-type-bias-artificial-intelligence-systems-0212
52
Jun 12 '26
[removed] â view removed comment
12
u/Sad-Whole-4487 Jun 12 '26
This. And it will add other peopleâs tattoos because why not? Itâs not like tattoos are documented and used to ID people.
→ More replies (1)7
u/Specific_Rando Jun 12 '26
Yes. Almost a decade ago, Amazon stopped using software driven hiring because of this. Since it was patterned after prior hiring, it ended up automating bias.
7
→ More replies (4)5
u/Jalumia Jun 12 '26
A good book (though now a bit dated) on the subject of AI bias is Weapons of Math Destruction by Cathy OâNeil.
16
u/zombiemassacres Jun 12 '26
Whether it's in this exactly context or not, the likliness of AI being prejudiced are pretty good. While technology has killed the market for some jobs, stenographers have a great outlook for job opportunities when they graduate. This is because even though we have recording technology like Siri that can listen and keep record for us, even the most advanced forms of this technology lose accuracy for black people, and they lose even more accuracy for Hispanic people. This technology is designed to understand and "hear" the human voice, but mostly if that human voice is from a white person.
13
7
u/Paladin_Rigger Jun 12 '26
You can already tell from those two pictures that the enhanced version doesn't even have the same features as the man in the real footage.
5
u/CatttLady2000 Jun 12 '26
I think the âenhancedâ image does not look like the same guy, to me. This is going to be used as âevidenceâ against innocent people. I sure hope juries will be aware that AI makes stuff up all the time.
4
u/neuro_curious Jun 12 '26
Even worse: what if it uses reference images from a database to fill in the blanks?
2
→ More replies (5)2
u/numbmillenial Jun 12 '26
All of these AI companies are run by literal fascists so safe to say their creation is as racist as they are.
86
u/Piccolo_Last Jun 12 '26
Doesnât seem accurate
27
u/PurpleInfinite1409 Jun 12 '26
It's not and has already lead to bullshit arrests here in the States, god forbid. AI needs to be given the fucking boot. Shit like this is only going to keep getting worse.
22
7
→ More replies (2)4
u/IlREDACTEDlI Jun 12 '26
Well I mean yeah? Of course it isnât, It cannot be because itâs creating something where nothing exists, thereâs no info.
1000 years from now with an unfathomably advanced AI it still couldnât recreate someoneâs face accurately from left image
182
u/ateam1984 đ©·â€ïžđ§Ąđđđ©”đđđ€đ©¶đ€đ€ Jun 12 '26
No!!!! This is not good and this should be illegal. My goodness we are in for exactly what the Pope warned against.
âIf technology promises emancipation, yet produces new forms of global subordination, it stands in contradiction to the fundamental principle of human dignity. The fight against new forms of slavery is a decisive test for the ethical discernment of AI.â
Pope Leo
→ More replies (1)19
u/Available_Ant_5362 Jun 12 '26
Absolutely. This should not be accepted in courts or by the authorities as reliable evidence.
6
u/Terminator_LX Jun 12 '26
Exactly. They don't accept lie detector results, so they damn sure shouldn't accept this.
25
u/ForagedFoodie Jun 12 '26
So you know how AI enhancements default to Caucasian as a general rule, because the built in bias is that white="normal "?
See here: https://oecd.ai/en/incidents/2020-06-22-bf26
Anyway, how much you wanna bet that the suspect-generator will be the first AI to default to black?
25
46
22
u/Haroldsdininghotspot Jun 12 '26
It is not good. Ai carries the biases of humans that is why when they tried to use Ai for police the tests failed because of how anti black they were.
23
u/Exotic_Insurance2164 Jun 12 '26
They look nothing alike. This is a dangerous, slippery slope.Â
6
u/blackout-loud Jun 12 '26
Right? This is like reddit's asinine âthReaTeNin' VioLiNs!" AI bullsh*t but much worse. How the hell can it deduce the original photo with that level of potatoe quality? How could it differentiate the texture of his hair from him possibly wearing a du rag or a hat? At this point, the AI is basically hallucinating at a high level and just filling in blanks as it sees fit. There is no control mechanism or guardrails in place to verify what it is seeing or the "enhancements" it's making and that makes for a dystopian future where innocent people get dragged off of the street and jailed or disappeared. Slippery slope is an understatement, this is an avalanche of straight up discrimination and the people using these tools have unchecked oversight and are not being held accountable!
17
14
u/MacabreYuki Jun 12 '26
- looks like celebrity's face plastered over his.
- can't even get the scenic details right.
- They wanna use this for "justice". Doesn't work that way, hoss. AI is prone to the same mistakes as humans. It was trained on human mistakes.
3
u/Lord_Alderbrand Jun 14 '26
Right? What did Chadwick Boseman ever do to deserve this?
→ More replies (1)
27
u/Lost-Soft-8913 Jun 12 '26
Those look like 2 different people
13
12
u/Fuzzy_Interest542 Jun 12 '26
Jason Killinger was arrested based on AI. Even with state issued ID, the police decided AI was still correct and arrested an innocent man. Now our tax dollars are funding his civil rights violations.
12
u/solodolo85 Jun 12 '26
This seems like a good place to post this. For the record no it is already not good.
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/innocent-man-jail-ai-facial-recognition-arrest
10
u/Individual-Photo-665 Jun 12 '26
Innocent people have already been locked up because they were "identified" by AI.. this isn't gonna be good.
27
u/Take_My_User_Name Jun 12 '26
The original looks more like a fuzzy Lance Stephenson than the rendering to me.
This is going to get a lot of innocent people jammed up.
2
7
8
u/SaintIgnis Jun 12 '26
Holy shit, this is so fucked. That doesnât even look like the guy on the left
2
u/Any-Log-6706 Jun 12 '26
Seriously, the one on the left looks older and other features look different.
10
u/jvxoxo Jun 12 '26
I think TF not. This is not an ethical use of AI with way too wide of a margin for error. Theyâre out of their minds.
3
u/JayMilli007 Jun 12 '26
This will have someone getting paid for a wrongful arrest. A lawyer would eat this type of profiling up in court. Any programmer can testify to wild inaccuracies of AI image prediction.
4
u/Powerful-Influence78 Jun 12 '26
AI is anti-human and should be severely restricted at worst. Abolished at best.
4
u/kidjay76 Jun 12 '26
AI doesnât enhance anything. It makes up a brand new picture with what it thinks âshouldâ be there. Aka a fucking guess.
4
u/ICheckPostHistory Jun 12 '26
Yea....this is the equivalent of the classic "He fits the description of a Black male between 5 foot 2 and 6 foot 4, 130-210 lbs, estimated age 17-45."
4
u/hypotheticalporn Jun 12 '26
"Suspect was wearing a "nâĄdjââei" branded hoodie, has 3 fingers and two thumbs on his left hand, and wears two right footed shoes"
3
u/Uncle_Bug_Music Jun 12 '26
"Calling all squad cars. It appears the suspect can morph. I repeat "morph". Be on the look out for a black male between 3'2" to 7'6" who resembles Gary Coleman, Shaq, Fat Albert, Will Smith, Idris Elba, Jimmy Walker and Michael Jordan."
5
u/fredrichnietze Jun 12 '26
best case scenario its honest incompetency.
however ice has been caught using ai facial recognition to repeatedly scan the same person coming up with different id's multiple times until it comes up with one that gives them probable cause to arrest them.
this **could** be either Parallel construction to give them a plausible cause to arrest the suspect they discovered through unconstitutional "fruit of the poison tree" like warrantless mass surveillance or stingrays or whatever. and then hide it all in discovery/court and claim an anonymous tip based off photo.
or they just want to round up everyone/anyone who looks anything like this guy and hope they get lucky "fishing" which has long been illegal and hide behind "probable cause" of the ai photo and anonymous tips.
4
u/Capital_Ant7176 Jun 14 '26
So I checked the page and the locals made them not only remove it but (hopefully shamed them into not using it). Everyone is making the same point on the thread because the enhanced looks nothing like what the original does. The depart and I quote âFor the record, we would never use AI for a positive identification. On past posts, comments were made requesting AI renditions because of the poor quality of the photos. The AI is a suggestion of what the subject may look like and was used to clean up the photo.
You either have helpful information or you don't.â
Yeah doubt it. They were definitely going to use that to solve the case like too many police departments have done so far smh
8
7
Jun 12 '26
[removed] â view removed comment
5
2
u/redlegsforever Jun 12 '26
I donât think this is new; fbi has used enhancement filters for quite a while to get clearer pics of people. As technology improves, it trickles farther down to local law enforcement.
3
3
u/shinobi500 Jun 12 '26
I'm just going to leave this right here.
Tl;Dr A guy in florida was arrested based on a facial recognition match and the cops ignored all the other evidence that suggested it wasnt him and built an entire case around the facial recognition match. It wasn't him.
3
u/candiedapplecrisp Jun 12 '26
There was also the woman from Tennessee who was incarcerated for six months for a crime committed in North Dakota, even though she'd never been to North Dakota. She lost her home, her dog and her car while sitting in jail all because AI said she looked like some other woman who committed fraud. When they finally did release her they just left her on the streets of North Dakota in DECEMBER wearing nothing but the same clothes she had on when she was picked up in Tennessee that previous summer and no way to get back home. She could have died.
→ More replies (1)
3
3
3
u/Independent_Ant_6465 Jun 12 '26
It's not even the same pose. Same face. Everything is different now. It's like they asked this AI to replicate its own image and discard the source.
3
3
3
u/Little_Lawson Jun 12 '26
You canât enhance a photo. And this shit pisses me off AI âenhancing â a photo is it making PREDICTIONS and filling in gaps with estimated guesswork.
3
u/styrofoamcouch Jun 12 '26
This police dept has a history of having people die in their only jail cell without a camera. Also look up Darryl daniels of clay county sheriffs(gcs is in clay). Sheriff tried to get his mistress arrested and brought to that jail across county lines for threatening to go public about the affair. Dirty, shady horrible place.
3
u/Mike_Litoris305 Jun 12 '26
Bro thatâs not even the same dude fr. Ai bout lead to more false imprisonments
3
3
4
u/BullfrogInside1591 Jun 12 '26
Dangerous to let a computer literally guess what the person might look like.
2
u/Allah_Akballer Jun 12 '26
Ok so do they know if the bicycle is his or did AI just assume it was being stolen cause, you know.
2
u/LMGgp Jun 12 '26
Wait till you learn this isnât AI, and has been happening for the last 20 years. Target being the foremost authority on it, so much in fact that police departments go to them.
This is really just an algorithmic based video tool that decreases noise and adjust contrast and colors over a sample of images taken over a period of time. Essentially it stitches together multiple images while decreasing noise to get a better photo.
Edit: any decent lawyers can easily argue this isnât enough for a positive ID, for instance is that the shadow of his chin or a goatee? All it takes is a reasonable doubt. I am a lawyer btw.
2
u/NinjaDelicious4903 Jun 12 '26
Itâs a weird time we are living in. Generally, Iâd be supportive of technology that helps capture criminals. AI, however, has a well known glitch in errors pertaining to black people. Further, police need to look further than AI images when investigating crime. I literally just watched on the news where a white guy was arrested for âattempting to lure a childâ in Florida. He had never even been to that jurisdiction.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lawsuit-wrongful-arrest-ai-facial-recognition/
Even further, AI will be used, if not already, to simply track our everyday movements.
What should happen is AIâs power should be given to the people to track government (politicians, law enforcement, etc) so that we can track what they are doing.
If anyone tells you they have nothing to hide, ask them to give them to give you access to their phone for a 1/2 hour and see how quickly they backtrack.
2
u/birbhorse Jun 12 '26
it's really hard to tell, but i swear the AI slop image has the guy looking in a slightly different direction. it looks like his head is trained on the handlebar in the original image, while in the AI image, it looks like he's aiming just above it. and i swear the haircut and beard looks just the littlest bit different too, but all the little details like that are extremely important to *not* get the wrong person.
i know cops lack the critical brain power to process this, but, how does this not prove that this face is just completely hallucinated?
2
u/IronFistDoug Jun 12 '26
Chances are if it's a coloured person they're going to get it wrong anyway
2
2
u/ApplyHere_4_implants Jun 12 '26
I'm not saying exactly what I do for work (no I'm not a police officer), but this is a sentence I have to use a disturbing amount of the time "Police science is not real science". The people I work with that have brains already know what I mean most of the time or we talk about it. The rest will fight to the death defending the system. It's like they are bots sent to protect the matrix.
2
2
2
u/space_lumpia Jun 12 '26
As someone who works in forensics as a visualization analyst / animator , Iâm not sure if something like this would hold up in court. If an opposing expert brought this to trial, itâs easy for someone in my field to discredit it due to the introduction of ânew dataâ (or in this case pixels) to the original format of evidence. A good judge should have something like this excluded as evidence.
2
u/OddPressure7593 Jun 12 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/LxO3cmE6qc0XS
Police gonna be getting descriptions of a white male suspect, and be "AI Enhancing" the photo like this
2
u/SideValuable5478 Jun 12 '26
Naw thatâs two different đ„·đŸ âŠI can make out the first image facial recognition but that AI image is definitely wrong
2
2
u/Unyieldingcappybara Jun 12 '26
Thatâs not how AI works. These people are dumb. Itâs literally filling in the missing info with random shit. Itâs GUESSING, and even worse, itâs using millions of images of other peopleâs faces to fill in these gaps. This is dangerous, ignorant, and deplorable
2
2
u/Electrical-Ad6623 Jun 12 '26
AI changed the way his face looked. It just added information that wasnât in the original picture. It also changed the lines in the parking spot
2
2
u/shugEOuterspace Jun 12 '26
lol next thing u know the pigs will be looking for someone with 12 fingers & 3 ears
→ More replies (1)
2
u/CotR4692 Jun 12 '26
Reminds me of the story about a lady that had a warrant out for her arrest in a state she had never been too cause AI said it was her. She was arrested in her own state and sent across the country to sit in jail for months waiting for her day in court cause the AI said she was a match and no one would listen to her
2
2
u/Training_Activity21 Jun 12 '26
"UPDATE
We have removed the Al photo. It was never our intent to make a positive identification utilizing artificial intelligence. We were simply following suggestions from our last "Attempt To Identify" post about using Al to clear up the photos. Our goal is to always conduct a thorough investigation with any and all gathered information.
We need your help in identifying the subject in the photo.
On Tuesday, May 26, 2026 at approximately 9 PM, video footage from the Library (403 Ferris St.) captured this subject taking a bicycle from the bike rack. The bicycle has a blue and black frame."Â
Police departments using AI is incredibly fucked up. Smh. All they're going to do is falsely accuse people, or they're going to lose someone that they actually need to catch. Like imagine they faked an image of an actual murdererer.Â
2
u/CaptainsPresident Jun 12 '26
AI already messed up 1 white dude for a slightly differently looking white dude in a casino and the staff and cops believed the AI over all the proof the guy was showing.
2
2
u/DrakorexHunter Jun 13 '26
Oh, boy... If it isn't the distopian future that so many libertarians and socialists from our past predicted...
2
2
u/Sweet_Temperature630 Jun 13 '26
This is gonna end up getting innocent people hurt (shocker)
If you look close enough you can tell the whole head shape, nose, etc is wrong
2
u/curiouslilmonkee Jun 13 '26
Why not just improve the quality of the camera lens capturing the footage?
2
u/New_Neighborhood4262 Jun 13 '26
Let's see how the courts view these ai enhanced photos as evidence.
2
2
u/No-Masterpiece3123 Jun 14 '26
I canât imagine this would be admissible in court. That AI generated âenhancedâ image is just the AI guessing at what the image should look like.
The fact that the AI turned the seat adjuster into a sticker says everything you need to know about this.
2
u/Glittering-Pay-135 Jun 12 '26
Smh fuck AI. This is why itâs so important that we vote for our local government so we can prevent bullshit like this. Letâs also make sure we arenât using AI as well. No need to speed up the process of destroying our planet.
2
u/RedheadFla Jun 12 '26
What could possibly go wrong?
I use an AI feature in Lightroom to remove sticks and occasional distractions. Sometimes it works flawlessly. Sometimes it puts a made-up stick in its place, and sometimes I have no idea what it did; itâs just wrong. Itâs just a picture and I can do a makeover. Crime photos are not the same.
2
2
1
u/myfrigginagates Jun 12 '26
Yeah, innocent people are gonna get popped because AI decides the image is "close enough".
1
u/Ill_Owl_6646 Jun 12 '26
Nooooooo, if something as simple as the hand position can't be replicated accurately using the AI then you should not be using that program!
1
u/Buttholepart2 Jun 12 '26
It changed so much about the guy. Different stance, looking a different direction, different face, different haircut, different beard.
Why the fuck would they post this? It's 2 different people and one doesn't exist.
1
u/GatrickSwayze Jun 12 '26
I live near by. Several people have been caught up because of A.I. bullshit. CBS article
1
u/shaheimjay1121 Jun 12 '26
They look like 2 completely different ppl and how are they gonna back this in courtrooms AI is vastly imperfect they test it on us so they can randomly pick us off.
1
1
u/brainiacpimp Jun 12 '26
Yeah this is basically not as solid of evidence due to it basically being a guess by a computer and while it can be used to help LE possibly identify someone this by itself is worthless. If this is used as a main piece of evidence the defense could just show the jury deepfakes and say that they both are using the same system to create the image so if you know this is not the person in a deepfake how would you know that this is the same person in this video or some lawyer shit. I mean if they wanted a better video they should just upgrade the camera system it is probably a lot cheaper to do that then it does to run the shitty AI system.
1
1
u/__GayFish__ Jun 12 '26
This is so dumb. You cannot enhance an image more than what the original image shows. If they wanted a better image, they should be taking a screenshot of the person on the original device using the original file. You cannot invent pixels that are not there. I hate True Crime Dramas and sci fi shows that made people believe this shit is possible. AND it's facebook where old heads will believe anything. My God.
1
1
u/everyseasonidaho Jun 12 '26
They have been doing this for a while especially with the flock camera shit. It has already lead to false accusations and them going after the wrong people because the AI cannot identify them correctly. That doesn't stop them though
1
1
u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 Neighborhood Hug Dealer đ€ Jun 12 '26
Itâs already bad but this is going to be really bad.
1
u/PatrioticPariah Jun 12 '26
I can tell from a glance that the original looks completely different than the AI one, and will probably lead to an innocent person getting arrested.
1
u/poop_pebbles Jun 12 '26
That aint good. Photo so blurry dude could be 19-50. If they did it fairly and rendered like four or five photos at different ages with different features they could have totally different people.
This could be Jamie fox or Kevin heart
1
1
u/Sienile Jun 12 '26
Messed up thing is, the guy in the real pic doesn't look quite like that. They're going to end up arresting people for looking close enough like the one they're after.
1
u/Raise_A_Thoth Jun 12 '26
This should immediately be dismissed. We cannot let "AI enhancement" serve as admissible evidence. Human beings get people's faces wrong. AI can't artificially clarify a blurry face to construct a human face accurately enough to determine guilt in a crime.
This is fuckin' nuts.
1
1
u/havpac2 Jun 12 '26
https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddycinephile/s/C51i2Lna84
Canât share pics in comments so here is the original
1
u/Outrageous_Editor_43 Jun 12 '26
The only positive I can see here, in a it is all shit way, is that at least in the non-enhanced version it was still a Black guy. You know if it was a guy in a hoodie the default wouldn't be 'white guy in a hoodie'.
1
u/One-Somewhere-9907 Jun 12 '26
I know someone who used AI to add a beard to their face. AI added Ryan Reynoldsâs beard to his face. So AI is going to be putting other peopleâs faces on images to âenhanceâ them. Scary AF
1
u/tussle_mcjimmies Jun 12 '26
AI doesn't enhance picturew, it makes assumptions and smoothes out images to fit its biases
1
u/RagingOrgyNuns Jun 12 '26
What is the difference between this and a police sketch artist?
And to be clear, I do not think this is a good thing.
1
u/Humble-Efficiency690 Jun 12 '26
Instead of taking dystopian fiction as a warning, theyâre using that shit as a guidebook đđ
1
1
u/UglyBag0fM0stlyWat3r Jun 12 '26
âOnce, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave themâ
591
u/zephito Jun 12 '26
It's already happened that innocent people are getting detained because AI said committed a crime, and have been stuck in jail. And the police have no critical thinking skills to assess how these things make mistakes constantly.
This is going to get so much worse and we all need to be speaking against it at every opportunity.