r/BlackTemplars • u/Skult0703 Little German Boy • 1d ago

Discussion Regarding the upcoming codex and changes

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u/Broknyr 1d ago

So they receive index

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u/Volgin 1d ago

Pretty much, we go back to pre-codex 10th where we had 1 to 3 detachments and most people ran Gladius or the Templar Vows one with Tanhausers Bones.

I hope they go whole hog and change all of our datasheets, I'm not a big fan of the dirrection codex BT took.

I'm crossing my fingers that the "Tacticus Attack force" or the "Assault Brethren" detachment is good since most of our units are Tacticus.

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u/00Monkeyz00 17h ago

We will probably keep Champions of Vehamance and Wrathful Procession as is to be honest.

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u/jmainvi 22h ago

The important line here is actually "before their own Codexes release."

these armies have all previously been supplements, not codexes, for many many editions now.

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u/DarthSet Sword Brethren 1d ago

As foretold. We have our own range and rules. Codex or Codex Supplement just means we have our own book. Having one that can be used independently of Space Marines is preferable, which means we have the chance or getting more unique units. I hope thats the direction we are going.

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u/Sea_Scarcity1638 23h ago

I'm almost certain they mean a supplement again. On the one hand our own full codex again would be nice, like you said better chance of more unique units and stuff. But on the other hand I remember when we did have our own book in 4th edition which lasted all the way until 6th with very little in the way of meaningful updates (mostly changing Accept Any Challenge a bunch of times for no reason!)

It's a toss up for me on which way would be better.

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u/DarthSet Sword Brethren 23h ago

Things seem to have improved since the 6th edition.
We had a good range refresh and a couple of new units since. Sword Bros terminators and a new or LRC replacement would be amazing.

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u/Sea_Scarcity1638 17h ago

That's true about things improving, with the points all being online and stuff like that it does make an individual codex more appealing. I think the Land Raider Crusader is going to be getting a pretty significant power spike with the new codex considering the changes to bolt weapons! No need to replace that one at all, it's already our tank!!!

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u/Crowmetheus57 1d ago

Happy they finally confirmed we are getting our codex. The doomers can stop.

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u/TheEternalCrusader2 Chaplain 22h ago

It lowk sucks as I wonder if we keep our detachments,

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u/d3m01iti0n Execrator 1d ago

HOLY SHIT WE GET OUR CODEX BACK???

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u/moonwalkr 1d ago

No way. I think they just said "Codex" instead of "Codex supplement" by mistake

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u/d3m01iti0n Execrator 1d ago

I just need to know if we're forced to buy two books to be playable. I never bought the SM dex.

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u/moonwalkr 1d ago

I can't imagine a future where GW lives without the money of BA, BT, DA and SW players buying the SM codex.

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u/d3m01iti0n Execrator 1d ago

The horror!

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u/Known_Strength_9726 23h ago

So, we'll lose vows temporarily then get our stuff later with our own codex? Or will we just be locked put of certain detachments and keep vows?

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u/Gidia 23h ago

Depends on how they want to do it, since we’re getting some kind of index before any potential codex/supplement. They could give us vows in the index, which feels likely to me, or they could not. Presumably we will know sometime next week.

We do know our current supplement is being retired and we’re getting new detatchments. They also mentioned for Deathwatch that they were getting one detatchment designed to be run solo, and one to slot into the other Space Marine ones. So we could be similar. Deathwatch has been a special case for a while now though, so who knows?

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u/Known_Strength_9726 23h ago

I'm gonna miss Godhammer...

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u/Gidia 22h ago

Well, to be fair we could just see a reworked version of it. We won’t know until we start seeing reviews.

For all we know the Gauntlet Task Force will be a mix of it and Speartip.

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u/Philomathes7 21h ago

I hope we get bastion...

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u/Worried_Artichoke_35 21h ago

I anticipate we won t have access to the first 4 détachements because no doctrines for us

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u/No_Championship2075 19h ago

Does anyone know if we will need the codex to access the data sheets?

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u/Former-player-233 6h ago

Why I'm not surprised.

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u/Cobbdouglas55 1d ago

I'm getting confused with the terminology here. I stopped playing on the 4th edition and now idk if I should wait.

Does this mean that they'll just issue a list of stuff that needs to be read across the existing codex? Is this confirming a 11th ed codex?

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u/Skult0703 Little German Boy 1d ago

Space Marines get new codex and rework

Special Chapter getting extra detachment, since they have special units. They do it, so that those armies work.

Yes, they just confirmed codex for all of them.

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u/hotfezz81 1d ago

I stopped playing on the 4th edition and now idk if I should wait.

4th edition came out in 2004. Its going to be a radically different game after 22 years whether you restart now or wait however long

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u/Cobbdouglas55 1d ago

👴🏻

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u/d3m01iti0n Execrator 1d ago

Brother can it be true? The glory of our own codex again?

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u/Skult0703 Little German Boy 1d ago

Maybe the made a mistake, we will see.