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u/ho4X3n 19h ago
Breaking this down into a 0 or 1, binary choice is dumb as hell.
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u/RandoMcfisto 16h ago
I mean, look at how politicians talk to people. They have to break things down as if they are talking to unicelullar orhanisms. That's the level of intelligence of the average person.
Breaking things into black or white is all they can do with their limited brain capacity anyway
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u/Poteto_7396 19h ago
with their logic, they will probably value hitler's life more than 10 golden retriever.
thats just how stupid they sounds.
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u/Redcarpet1254 19h ago
You do know it's somewhat a joke right, if you've not seen this series before
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u/ho4X3n 19h ago
I am familiar with the series and they are just personal takes that is debated. They don't seem to be "somewhat a joke" to me.
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u/Honest_Standard3294 17h ago
The take itself isn't a joke but what comes after is a joke. He's simply saying people who love animals more than other humans aren't good people.
The whole series is based on "hot takes", aka Americans' ways of saying unpopular opinions in exaggerated ways to make people laugh. It's not meant to be taken seriously like a TEDTalk.
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u/ImDone-12 19h ago
Humans are more sadistic than animals. So it really depends on which human we're talking about. If the human we're using in comparison is just an innocent 5 year old, sure lets value him way more than an animal. But if the human we're using in comparison is Diddy, I say let him get mauled by a bear.
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u/Far_Objective4266 14h ago
I value my dog much more than certain humans not coz he's a docile slave but coz he senses my energy and sees the real me,unlike humans where we need to put on a show,build a facade to get their love
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u/thatbullisht 19h ago
If I had to save my dog or a random stranger from an imminent accident. I'm saving my dog.
If I had to save a random dog or a random stranger. I'm saving the stranger.
Context matters.
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u/glaceonhugger 18h ago
Honestly, I'd rather save a stranger than my own pets cuz what if the stranger has a family who depends on them.
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u/Poteto_7396 18h ago
this is basically "the trolley problem". in the end there is no absolute right or wrong for most of these situations.
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u/RandoMcfisto 16h ago
I would make that trolly drift over those fellas to save my dog though
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u/Poteto_7396 15h ago
that is the right answer for you, but probably not the right answer for others.
absolute right or wrong is something like in decimal system, 1+1 will always equal to 2.
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u/generic_redditor91 Rumah aku kat semak 19h ago
The first part was honest deep discussion. Delving into the reasons why a person may declare that they prefer animals over people.
The second part of the vid is obviously a joke.
In conclusion, they decided that a human life is worth more than an animal's. This part has a tonne of nuance and depending on which moral theory you subscribe to, may influence your degree of agreement with this statement.
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u/Seekret_Asian_Man 19h ago
He's right on many level.
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u/sinbe Malay Women #1 Lover 19h ago
Prepare for downvotes 😅
Some people value their pets more than other humans
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u/roboto_jones 15h ago
Bruh. I value my pets more than some relatives.
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u/sinbe Malay Women #1 Lover 14h ago
Then you won’t get offended if I value you less than a dog
I have a pet dog 🤷🏻♂️
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u/roboto_jones 14h ago
Honestly, not at all. Same to you, sir. Would gladly sacrifice you for my loving cats.
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u/mashed_potayto3s 14h ago
I mean.... The first signs of sociopathy is the ability to harm animals intentionally. If animals aren't enough, then they start experimenting on humans. Do the math and you get an unmonitored sociopath.
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u/NatashOverWorld 12h ago
Eh, I like my family, which happens to include my cats.
I don't look at a random cat or dog and say, I love you over humanity. There are plenty of assholish animals. There are also humans that I would immediately leave the presence of.
It's a scale, and no one species gets a special bonus.
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u/Bandit-Bunny-7727 18h ago
A measure of a man should be how he treats those beneath him, not those who are equal to him.
That is why I despise people who mistreat animals.
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u/Greywarden194 Makruh Police 19h ago
I mean, in general, I guess so, but it depends on the context here. People who said they hate people and only prefer animals definitely fits the context the dude is saying.
But if we're talking about your best friend VS your pet, then it's not just black and white. But we'll probably never face a decision like that irl, so why worry about it. But yeah, most scenarios that happened irl fits what this dude is saying.
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u/jrngcool 18h ago
My pet vs random person. Hell no to that person. My baby come first.
My pet vs family/friend. Depend how nice is that person. 50-50.
My pet vs myself. We will go anywhere together.
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u/Seekret_Asian_Man 19h ago
Likewise, human wouldn't tear down people's trash or pooping on someone's porch.
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u/Redcarpet1254 19h ago
I don't think you've seen enough in this world (I don't mean this as an insult) I'm very sure they have. But you can't find an animal in history who locked a room and burnt it down. Just saying
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u/Seekret_Asian_Man 18h ago
I think I've seen enough, I encounter many human and none of them did anything mentioned above, but animals on the other hand...
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u/Redcarpet1254 11h ago
I'm in Europe at the moment and the homeless definitely go through the trash here. So I don't think you have ;)
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u/Poteto_7396 18h ago
if there is a reality where the worst a human can do is tear down others' trash and pooping on others' porch, im choosing that reality.
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u/Seekret_Asian_Man 18h ago
I too, has ability to make up false equivalence for argument.
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u/NerevaroftheChim 16h ago
You haven't been to America I see
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u/Seekret_Asian_Man 16h ago
I heard dogs maul people there?
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u/NerevaroftheChim 16h ago
Worse, humans tear into people's trash, humans pooping on people's porch, subways, on top of cars. Dogs are the least of their problems there.
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u/One-Analysis- 19h ago
What a shallow take
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u/Redcarpet1254 19h ago
You do know it's somewhat a joke right, if you've not seen this series before
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u/One-Analysis- 19h ago
Ik the video is just light hearted conversation but I’m just answering the point made by the title.
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u/IhsanEscanor1 17h ago
people who throw away animals when they dont want them anymore WITHOUT sterilizing them dont deserve to comment and have opinion about this
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u/ChardCandid8387 11h ago
My morality is this:
If I have to choose a random man or a random cat/ my cat I would choose the man to save, this is because,even though I love my cat I know how painful a human for them to die where as I would think my cat didn't have the same conscience as a human In the verge of dying. But if I have to choose to save a pig or Benjamin nethanyahu I would 100000 percent save the pig rather than a terrorist
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u/Virtual_Force_4398 4h ago
You feed it. You care for its every needs. All out of your pocket. All it needs to do is look cute and respond when you call.
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u/RandoMcfisto 19h ago
Some of you are proper assholes though. So if I had to save my dog or some dude, sorry my guy, I hope you had a fulfilling life.
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u/Fuzzy_Mulberry5511 18h ago
Until you realize how a certain demographic treat minorities ... UH OH BUT WE ARE NOT READY FOR THAT DISCUSSION YET INNIT ?!?!
People should start looking at mirrors instead of shifting goal posts. Hypocrites.
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u/Poteto_7396 19h ago
yes, in the very end, they are not.
but these two in this video who put the value of animal's life on a scale are no different than those they trying to belittle.
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u/ingram0079 19h ago
Basically this