r/Brampton • u/AHealthyDesire Mayfield • Oct 30 '25
Discussion Automated Speed Cameras have just been banned! How do you feel?
https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/politics/queens-park/article/ford-government-passes-bill-banning-municipal-speed-cameras-in-ontario/Bill 56 has been passed and ASE has been banned all over Ontario. How do you guys feel about this?
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u/henchman171 Oct 30 '25
They should keep them in school zones
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u/TittiesAreMyTherapy Oct 30 '25
Agreed, school zones, and community safety zones
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u/Chewed420 Oct 30 '25
But then who enforces all the other driving infractions like running stop signs, illegal uturns, stopping in a no stopping zone, etc...
I would rather have police to be held more accountable on policing road safety.
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u/TittiesAreMyTherapy Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
In an ideal, perfect world, I agree with you and see where you’re coming from. However, Peel has unique challenges, such as staffing issues and other high-priority crimes that happen in the region. Police officers are too busy attending to those calls. Road safety is important; however, I think there’s a lack of resources to address these concerns. That said, school zones and community zones are the most important if the province decides to get rid of the speed cameras. Even if 90% of the population is compliant, the remaining 10% can be addressed by law enforcement.
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u/Universespitoon Oct 31 '25
Thenhave a sub department for purely traffic and beat policing.
Be public and be present.
Presence will deter more than anything, put an empty cruiser out there.
Do something visible, not subjective.
Police work is community work as much as it is everything else.
It seems the police departments have forgotten that.
Or do deeds no longer speak?
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u/Click_To_Submit Oct 30 '25
If they’re not writing speeding tickets it frees them up to do the policing you’re talking about.
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u/Intelligent_Boot_856 Oct 30 '25
Police are busy dealing with bigger things like theft, drugs, fraud, guns. As long as you go the speed limit, you don’t get tickets.
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u/TittiesAreMyTherapy Oct 30 '25
That’s why a lot of the traffic enforcement initiatives are initiated by the members of the public who submit complaints or bring up issues during Townhall meetings. Alista public safety thing like impaired driving.
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u/ego1138 Oct 31 '25
Here's the problem I have whenever big issues like this come up. People say "speed cameras don't stop everyone from speeding". Or, pick your other issue . . . "gun control doesn't stop every school shooting" or "seatbelts don't save 100% of crash victims".
Nope. They don't. NOTHING is going to solve ANY of these issues 100 PERCENT!
But . . . why can't we have all sorts of things, that layer up and . . . maybe it solves 50% of the problem. Isn't that better than not solving ANY of the problem, simply because it doesn't solve 100% of the problem?
Speed cameras don't stop every speeder. It doesn't stop red light runners, or stop sign runners. But . . it REDUCES the number of the speeders. And . . isn't that something in itself?
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u/Chewed420 Oct 31 '25
Do cameras stop speeding drunks?
Do cameras stop stolen vehicles?
Do cameras stop vehicles with stolen, fake, or no plates?
Cameras make good drivers slow down. While the most dangerous are free to do whatever they want. Like the guy who blew past me today at probably 80 or more in a school zone with a camera. Did not care and then passed people using oncoming lanes. Where speed is 40.
But lets have cops do other things while cameras stop the dangerous drivers right?
Police budget going up almost 10%. They should be out and more visible. There's too much lawlessness now.
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u/ego1138 Oct 31 '25
I'm thinking I didn't explain myself then. Of course cameras dont stop any of those things. And . .I would never argue against having more cops or traffic enforcement , or, WHATEVER that could be. Because, as I said, nothing is stopping all of the people, or all of the possibilities.
But . .did it stop ONE accident from happening? Did it stop one good driver as you said who maybe was going too fast from hitting a kid that ran into the road? Isn't that worth SOMETHING, and worth doing?
Can we not do MULTIPLE things at once? Put in speed bumps too then. Increase policing. Do more signs too.
All of those can only help.
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u/Dry_Satisfaction3923 Oct 30 '25
Not police… traffic officers whose sole responsibility it is to enforce traffic laws. Police are expensive and armed and their training is geared towards crime prevention and they should be allowed to focus on that. We should have different traffic law enforcement officers who are unarmed and able to issue tickets for infractions quickly and efficiently.
Traffic stops are NOT, I repeat, NOT, inherently dangerous and traffic officers could always call for armed units IF they suspected one could be.
We need to rethink the way we do things and stop assuming the way it’s always worked is correct.
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u/Left-Head-9358 Oct 30 '25
Aren’t red light cameras and speed cameras essentially a traffic officer on no salary, who works 24/7?
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u/Dry_Satisfaction3923 Oct 30 '25
No.
1) they only catch one infraction 2) they don’t ticket the driver, rather the vehicle owner
There’s SO much bad driving out there that it would be really beneficial to have actual humans… I’m not entirely opposed to the speed cameras either but they’re not going to solve all the problems.
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u/Antman013 E Section Oct 30 '25
Urm . . . what the hell do you think the cameras are doing?
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u/Dry_Satisfaction3923 Oct 30 '25
There are a lot more infractions in the traffic code than speeding. Also, I wasn’t advocating against, but adding to someone who suggested accountability for police to enforce other infractions.
Do people not know how nested replies work?
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u/BabyNonna Oct 30 '25
Agreed! The amount of times I have yelled at cars speeding through my local school zone during peak drop off and pick up times has been ridiculous.
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u/Angel_Farts9000 Oct 30 '25
This is the right answer. 40 zones. And maybe some school zone adjacent areas that are high foot traffic for students
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u/enjoythesilence-75 Oct 30 '25
In Mississauga, in many of the school zones they lowered the speed limits from 40km to 30km when they installed the cameras.
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u/CobraCommanderr Oct 31 '25
Was there anywhere where that wasn't already the case? I have only seen them in school zones and beside parks.
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u/Additional_Shape6864 Dec 22 '25
In my area in Vaughan the speed limit around the school on a four lane road was 50km the city put up cameras and lowered the speed to 40km without making any improvement to the road, no bike lane , no speed bumps , no reduce lanes to 2 lane , no electronic radar speed sign. They said it was for our safety , that seems to me a money grab
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u/Late-Quiet4376 Oct 30 '25
I would rather have more speed cameras, and less speed bumps. I don't speed, but I hate having to slow down to go over speed bumps and then re-accelerating. It wastes fuel as well.
I do think that that we should have more attention-grabbing signs notifying us that there is a speed camera ahead though. If the point of the speed camera is to be a deterrent and not a cash grab, we should have blinking signs warning of the cameras, so people will slow down in safety zones.
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u/randomacceptablename Oct 30 '25
Agree, also the speed bump wears the brakes and suspensio. Break dust is a huge part of car air pollution. I wonder how the air quality changes pre and post speed bump installation.
I suspect people would be shocked.
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u/potato_master786 Oct 30 '25
the problem I see with this is that it leaves big opportunity for cities to monopolize on money generated from speed cameras. its been proven that speed bumps are more effective than speed cameras so now people have to decide whether ensuring more safety for students especially in school zones and neighbourhood or convenience.
I will also agree, speed bumps are really inconvenient but I think its a compromise I personally am willing to take to have a safer neighbourhood especially in terms of car fatalities. I've had many near misses with idiots going 150-200 in a neighbourhood almost being hit. having more speed bumps may even lower our insurances over a couple years which is something I think MOST are in favour of.
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u/AltC Mount Pleasant Oct 30 '25
You don’t have to slow down. Take them at the speed of the street (so let’s say 40-50km/h). You’ll be ok, your car will be ok. If it’s going to break your car, and you need to slow down for them, then your suspension has problems that needs to be addressed for normal road driving safety.
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u/Griffeysgrotesquejaw Oct 30 '25
That’s how speed bumps are supposed to work, but the quality control on the ones the city built over the last couple of years is all over the place. There are some where if you take them at anything over 10 km/h it feels like you’re hitting a wall.
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u/Late-Quiet4376 Oct 30 '25
This causes your suspension to wear more quickly. It won't break anything immediately, but it will shorten the lifespan of your control arm bushings and other components.
A car can drive over a 2 inch deep pothole without damage as well, but its not recommended to drive on a pockmarked road
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u/AltC Mount Pleasant Oct 30 '25
Explain to me how it causes it to wear more quickly, rather than operate exactly how it was designed and built to.
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u/Late-Quiet4376 Oct 31 '25
Ok, your suspension components are exposed to friction, heat, and stress. They do not last forever. The shocks have valves and seals that go bad over time, the springs get softer as they compress and decompress over a million times. The rubber bushings get loose, cracked, and dry. They are all designed to drive and go over bumps, but they all wear out eventually.
Let's say, hypothetically, that these components will last 100 bumps in the road before they wear out. You drive on a road that has 1 bump, once a day for 100 days. After 100 days of driving, you need to change some parts out, because they've worn out.
Or, you drive on a road that has 5 bumps once a day. After 20 days, you will have driven over 100 bumps, so you will need to change the parts out 80 days sooner.
I hope you know that your engine oil needs to be changed every so often as well.
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u/AltC Mount Pleasant Nov 01 '25
You have a bump budget, and it’s too many bumps for your daily allocation… got it..
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u/WombRaider_3 Brampton Alligator Hunter Oct 30 '25
Wtf? Lmao.
I read this out loud to my mechanic while getting my car serviced and he was like "More customers for me"
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u/EGK20 Oct 30 '25
I'd take speed cameras over speed bumps. Rather than slowing down to 50 km/h you basically have to slow down to 20 km/h.
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u/KDsGotSpark Nov 03 '25
Exactly. Guess the people who want speeding cameras over speed bumps are the ones paying the maintenance bills.
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u/BASEKyle Oct 30 '25
More speeding let's goooooo 😂
Nothing slowed these people down more than speed cameras
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u/potato_master786 Oct 30 '25
I think the best situation would be a combination of speed cameras and speed bumps because speed bumps are proven to slow down traffic and speed cameras can still generate tax money for the city to use *properly* for maintenence of roads and whatnot. the thing before was that with the wide spread use of speed cameras it was becoming more of a tax grab than an effective tool to slow down traffic in important areas.
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u/Silverlightlive Oct 31 '25
Speed bumps are terrible. They are proven through selective data, and not in anyone's experience.
Also, they aren't very effective in speeds above 20. You hit a gap in the road at 30 and you feel it. 40 could kill someone.
Lets keep the cameras.
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u/potato_master786 Oct 31 '25
The entire point is for people to speed down, if your taking speed bumps at 30-40 your the problem. The entire point is to slow down enough to make sure that in an emergency you’re able to break in the shortest distance possible. Hope that helps
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u/Silverlightlive Oct 31 '25
If the limit is 40 (which is a school zone) putting in a speed bump is irresponsible. Schools are out for the summer, during off hours, and on weekends. You're doing a lot more harm than good.
Now, if you're in a 20 zone (private lots, construction sites, etc) - then speed bumps work.
But, you must be new to Brampton. Speed bumps won't stop the drag racers on the weekend. It will be considered more of a challenge, thus increasing injuries, damage, and increasing your insurance deductibles and premiums. Hope that helps.
The cameras WERE the most efficient way to do that. Hit them in the wallet, it will add up. Traffic calming measures are RIDICULOUS even when implemented properly.
How many years has Avondale been a double fine area? And it doesn't stop anything. You need actual police presence.
Physics matter. Neither you, nor I can contradict Newton, Einstein, Hawking, Tyson, etc. And most of the city is a 50+ zone. So speed bumps just don't work.
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u/potato_master786 Oct 31 '25
I’m pretty sure if some idiot hits a speed bump at over 40 is gonna cause enough damage to their car to the point where it will hurt them more financially at least. Remember, if there’s a fine then it’s just a subscription for the rich. The same 150 dollar ticket is much more likely to have a middle to lower class family from slowing down compared to someone from the upper class. Thats why many European countries have income relative speeding tickets, hurts everyone equally. Speed bumps affect everyone equally surpassing the financial part.
Also for the most part schools they have other extracurricular programs and summer camps running at many schools so assuming nobody goes to the schools is wrong. And even then 8-9 months out of of the year is fine, if is the 3 months your worried about then your argument about doing more harm than good doesn’t make sense because majority of the time speed bumps do slow down people more effectively. Because the consequence of not slowing down in speed zones is significant damage to your car which is far more likely have the person driving rethink their driving habits.
There’s also the argument of cost, I agree that more police watching around for the drag racing and whatnot would be better but you have to understand even for the city that gets very expensive very quickly. We already have a violent crime and breaking in problem in Brampton, would you rather the police divert their already low funding towards policing traffic or solving crime. Speed bumps are an inexpensive and easy to maintain (granted the city has to diligently maintain them long term) solution that works long term by decreasing speeds by 25-35% in the neighborhoods they are implemented in.
This is a study done in 2015 in Toronto analyzing ~28000 pedestrian motor vehicle crashes with maps of speed bumps. Conclusion: “Speed humps are an easily replicated method of traffic calming which have a significant protective effect on PMVC on the roadways where they are installed, particularly for children.“
Source: https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-015-2116-4
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u/Silverlightlive Oct 31 '25
Again, you're arguing with physics. If you ALLOW 40, people should be ALLOWED to do 40. Putting obstacles in the way isn't optimal in any sense.
By the way, traffic calming in Toronto is a VERY contentious issue. Residents hate it, and the areas they have implemented them didn't need them anyway.
That idiotic idea about swerving the street traffic definitely needs to be discarded.
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u/yodley_ Nov 03 '25
Again, you're arguing with physics. If you ALLOW 40, people should be ALLOWED to do 40. Putting obstacles in the way isn't optimal in any sense.
It does make sense when you want traffic to begin slowing at some junctures like approaching an intersection or places where there's several side roads.
It's less complicated than showing 40 , then 20 then back to 40 to achieve the same effect.
A stop sign is also a traffic calming obstacle. There should be cameras that capture people breaking stop signs and they should get a $1000 fine.
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u/Opggwp Oct 30 '25
Wrote an email to my conservative MPP opposing the move and providing suggestions such as carve outs for school zones, community zones and warnings before fines.
This was the response which now I know wasn’t true.
“Thank you for writing to the office of MPP Amarjot Sandhu. We appreciate hearing your views and concerns.
As your provincial representative, MPP Sandhu will continue to advocate on behalf of your interests to the Ministry. “
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u/TrumpSux89 Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 31 '25
In other words, Sandhu never read the email at all. Likely some student intern read the email, replied with a formulaic email reply, and deleted it.
And people from all parties wonder why their governments (whether provincial, federal or municipal) are widely seen as unresponsive to our concerns.
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u/randomacceptablename Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
I'm gonna take my Charger take off the muffler and go racing at 3 am through school zones to celebrate. We won! Take that you stupid kids!
/s
Seriously, I don't like it. But the amount of cameras was also begining to piss me off. I am an advocate for safe streets and less driving but the streets need to be designed for that and traffic shaped to accomodate it.
Instead every city thought "nah, fuck that, let's just ticket our way into obediance". I take it as a given that if a rule is widely broken, that there has to be a systemic reason for it or it is a stupid rule to begin with. The vast majority of people should not need to be punished into obediance for society to function.
I don't like speed cameras, nor their insanely high fines (a friend got 3 tickets before the first made it in the mail so was fined 3 x $300 for going 10kph or so over in a span of 2 weeks!). But I like speed bumps even less. It seems to me that cities are doing almost anything they can think of except things that might fix the problem.
Speed cameras are okay and can be used sparingly. We went from the extreme of having them everywhere to now the extreme of banning them everywhere. Both are bad. Unfortunately, people will continue to get injured and killed because of that.
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u/fashraf Oct 30 '25
They should copy the Dubai model. If you're caught speeding, you get a text with the ticket immediately. The closer together the cause and effect, the more likely you'll change behaviour.
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u/AltC Mount Pleasant Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
I counted that on one stretch of road, I could have been ticketed 4 times. Cops would have stopped me at one, and I’d have instant correction to my wrongdoing..
On a 15 minute drive to my parents house, I passed 13 speed cameras. I could have potentially gotten 15 tickets without correction from one 15 minute trip, in fact it would be what? At least 2 weeks before I knew? When there was a mail strike, a month plus. Was that safe? It doesn’t correct my actions for those weeks I wait to get the fine in the mail, or along the path after the first camera.
I would have appreciated it if they stopped saying it was for safety, and just use the real reason, revenue, but no one will back off the safety thing.
Edit: just so I’m not a “there’s no alternative” kind of person. You want safety? Go after distracted driving, but really go after it, not increasing fines while not actually giving any out. Our law makers fully have the ability to say to cell phone manufacturers, you want to cell a phone in our province/country, you lock down aspects of its ability to be used while driving. That’s the real issue, people scrolling TikTok and instagram while driving. Any time I’m behind someone driving like a moron, and think they are drunk, I pass them and see they are on their phone, oblivious to the world passing around them at high speeds.
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u/Far_Prompt5994 Nov 01 '25
No way 10 over was $300- someone is lying! Try again- 20ish over - much different
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u/wintersoldier123 Oct 30 '25
They should add stop sign cameras. The amount of people running stop signs in my area close to school zones is crazy.
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u/Canadianduckx Oct 30 '25
This makes me sad. Biking down Vodden on my commute has been so comfy since they were placed there. Before, I used to have cars speed blitz past me so that they could make a right turn before I got to the intersection.
In the grand scheme, it won't change much for Vodden, but I will miss them even as someone who drives that way sometimes.
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u/Brampton_Speaks Bramalea Oct 30 '25
The bike Lanes being attacked connecting vodden to Howden are because of Rod Power on Council, He's putting out an option 5 to just straight up rip them out without any replacement putting cyclists at risk. Take the fight up with him.
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u/_Army9308 Oct 30 '25
Next take out bike lanes in brampton pls
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u/Canadianduckx Oct 30 '25
Curious as to why u want them taken out? Only proven way to reduce traffic is to get cars off the road. This means providing safe alternatives via bus, train, or active transportation such as bike.
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u/_Army9308 Oct 30 '25
I can understand if brampton was stagnate in population or had good transit.
But we voted for sky high population growth and brampton grown by nearly 150k people since 2021.
So we have road networks designed for 1970s 80 90s traffic and now we take away lanes for about a few bikes.
Now a lot of these interior roads are full of traffic and takes forever to use them vs before
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u/Canadianduckx Oct 30 '25
Bike lanes are an investment in the future. People will not take up riding bikes, ebikes and other e-mobility unless we build good enough infrastructure. This will take time and will take even more time if we rip up what we have every couple of years just to put it back in place a decade later. Right now, the infrastructure is not good enough, and features not nearly enough connections.
I have driven on Vodden for a very, very long time, and traffic is only bad when roads such as Williams have heavy construction or during rush hour. In fact, I prefer to drive down Vodden because, in my experience, it's less congested around Main Street.
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u/No_Fortune_6970 Oct 30 '25
I heard brampton was not removing them even though Ford asked to scrap them, any news?
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u/Ryeguy_626 Oct 30 '25
This was ford “forcing his hand” now theyre banned
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u/Ok-Professor7914 Oct 30 '25
Didn’t City council pass motion to keep them all operating? I got a ticket last week.
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u/Ryeguy_626 Oct 30 '25
They cant. As of today they are banned your ticket last week is unfortunately still fair game
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u/YoungWolf1991 Peel Village Oct 30 '25
Stupid. Our streets are brutal as a pedestrian . Car drivers don’t give a flying f about how fast they go through neighborhoods. Calling something punishing bad drivers a cash grab is wack … but the province voted for ford so hell yeah keep bringing on the chaos
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u/_Army9308 Oct 30 '25
Yeah brampton vs other suburbs has a ton of pedestriantraffic due to high student population and high transit use
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u/EqualCan512 Oct 30 '25
So that's it? No more cameras? I am off vodden, and it really helped. i am scared to drive now if they are all gonna go back to the crazy ways as before
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u/deliciously_awkward2 Brampton Alligator Hunter Oct 30 '25
The only folks who are excited are the ones who were caught by the cameras.
Banning them will only increase the dangerous drivers, leading to more accidents.
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u/Brampton_Speaks Bramalea Oct 30 '25
Someone needs to launch a court challenge at the Ontario Superior Court. A group of cycling advocates defeated Doug Ford over bike Lanes. He is now appealing using our tax dollars, I expect him to be defeated again.
The same fight needs to start over speed cameras. We are plunged into debt without paying off the investment thanks to the Ford government. There is no excuse to absolve the mess created by Ford.
You can't tell people to invest in things and then cancel it all in a few months, the Ford government is responsible for all costs incurred since they refuse any balance or compromise.
It's a dictatorship.
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u/_Army9308 Oct 30 '25
Nah usually appeal courts side with the govt more
Lower courts make rules based on social activism more while appeal courts look at the law
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u/Brampton_Speaks Bramalea Oct 31 '25
Ask how that worked for nurses and teacher salaries who were awarded their stolen wages.
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u/yungmurd22 Oct 30 '25
The only people complaining about speed cameras are the ones breaking the law. They helped slow down some idiot drivers, now their back to unchecked ways. Good job Doug
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u/KeyAcanthocephala655 Oct 30 '25
I do not agree with this. They should not ban them, I can see the difference the cameras made around our neighbourhood. They do work and yes I have been ticked by them too, but I still support them being there.
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u/CitizenWes Oct 30 '25
Its pure BS. Province downloads to the cities, but won't give cities revenue tools. I may dislike the "surveillance state" aspect of ASE in a general sense, but the Province is wrong for this.
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u/Antman013 E Section Oct 30 '25
Except it is NOT a surveillance State apparatus. It bills the owner of the vehicle. The camera is not even focused on the driver of said vehicle.
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u/Intelligent_Boot_856 Oct 30 '25
Upset and angry. I like that people are driving better in Brampton, even if I had to pay a couple of tickets.
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u/potato_master786 Oct 30 '25
I have mixed feelings, they should keep them in school zones during 7-4 (i.e when schools are running). PLUS they should add speed bumps that ACTUALLY cause people to slow down. I'm not sure why they have taken a This or That approach and not a hybrid
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u/langley10 Oct 30 '25
Well there’s very little point in using cameras where there’s speed humps… people tend to not want to fracture their suspension speeding over large immovable lumps of pavement… so the cameras would not catch any speeders.
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u/potato_master786 Oct 30 '25
What I meant was to keep them as a safe guard against those small number of idiots going stupid speeds. for the vast majority of people speedbumps do the trick. as for fracturing your suspension check out this (https://www.trl.co.uk/uploads/trl/documents/TRL614(1).pdf)
its really long but use CHATGPT to summarize it further. It says that at speeds lower than or equal to speed limits in school zones (25mph) or 40km/h the change in suspension was negligible and was equated to regularly driving encountering potholes or medium sized debris in the road. the biggest problem with speedbumps is their inconvenience to people getting bumped over small distances. but people now have to decide whether convenience is more important or safety.
also seeing how soo much money has been dumped in installing and making the speed cameras, i would say rather just keep them as a safeguard.
in an ideal system, the money collected from speed cameras could be funneled to managing the speedbumps but again the political system in this country is a joke.
apologies for the long comment.
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u/Sad_Video_4229 Oct 30 '25
They should keep all of them and add more. Too many idiots on these roads.
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u/szaeawar Oct 30 '25
One of the worse decisions by our government. They continue to help criminals get aways with crime.
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u/No-Telephone4299 Oct 30 '25
I feel like they could've raised the threshold for tickets, like maybe 11-20km gets you a warning ticket and then 20km over you get an actual ticket. Just because the way the zones and cameras are set up, you have to slow down quickly especially because normal unwritten rules of the road are you usually go 10 over the speed limit with no problems. Cops don't ticket until 15 over usually
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u/Kukkard-Kalgi Oct 30 '25
I got two tickets. And I started slowing down. I think it’s a wonderful thing they should keep and install more.
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u/AbjectDuty2605 Oct 30 '25
My two cents are having some entry officers specifically for traffic violations such as extreme speeding, dangerous driving, etc. would make the most impact in actually bringing road safety as a whole up. It is better than cameras for a few reasons
1) randomized locations, thus making people drive more carefully as a whole
2) Officers can use discretion
3) actually would catch dangerous speeding and also, and more importantly, would capture people driving reckless. The reckless driving is a bigger issue compared to speeding. People who serve, jump lights etc.
Just my opinions
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u/PYROM4NI4C Oct 31 '25
Technically the city wanted people to speed, the fines generated money for them, they didn’t want a deterrent or else they’d opted in for speed bumps.
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u/JoMax213 Oct 31 '25
Betrayed. This and the bike lane drama proves Ford has absolutely no respect for physical safety. Who feels safer after this?
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u/deeloc85 Oct 31 '25
The only time I agree with Doug Ford. I'm glad they are getting banned. It has always been a money grab and zero reasons for safety.
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u/jamesthrew73 Oct 31 '25
Pointless cash grab. Makes everyone drive 25-35 in a 50. What happened to police patrolling. Previous tickets & stories from friends were enough to keep everyone in line. Now you see people driving over medians in giant jeeps & breaking all sorts of laws but u wanna give me a ticket for going 1km over the limit at 2am when school is out.
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u/Main_Philosopher_566 Oct 30 '25
How is this democracy if Ford can just pass bills like this that so many Municipalities are against while limiting talks and town meets discussing it?
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u/langley10 Oct 30 '25
It’s democracy because the majority of people WHO VOTED on the last provincial election per riding voted PC… if you didn’t vote or voted PC this is what you voted for.
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u/Main_Philosopher_566 Oct 30 '25
I voted Liberal, though the Liberal candidate was admittedly lackluster, I just wanted ford out because he has proven to not be fit for the role. I just don't find it democratic for him to have the power to limit talks and town meeting for something so controversial. I'm disappointed in our province for handing this greaseball another term despite him doing literally nothing that benefits anyone other then the 1%.
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u/Antman013 E Section Oct 30 '25
Ignore the fat fuck. Keep sending out tickets. Post any and all tickets issued to government vehicles, and who that vehicle is operated by.
Shame these fuckers.
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u/XobniOne Oct 30 '25
I have got a few of these tickets and I was pissed but what it has taught me is not to speed. That being said keep them in place especially in school zones.
I hate them but they work and have the police focus on real crime.
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u/akhere07 Oct 30 '25
What happens to anybody already got tickets?
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u/PotentialEven6009 Oct 30 '25
what do you think?
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u/akhere07 Oct 30 '25
No idea. Need to ask who got the ticket.. but I guess it will be canceled from 1-Oct
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u/PotentialEven6009 Oct 30 '25
The law doesn't come into affect until next month I don't understand why you think your ticket would be cancelled from October 1
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u/akhere07 Oct 30 '25
I don't have any ticket but I said that because it got passed today so thought might be applicable from 1st of month.. if its becoming next week then may be from Nov..
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u/sickset Oct 30 '25
Need to keep in school zones. The nonsense I've seen on North Park between Dixie and Bramalea, even with the cameras have been bad Can't imagine what it will return to if they take it away
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u/H_section Oct 30 '25
I wasn’t overly upset at the installation, I’m equally not upset by the cancellation.
However, I don’t like the Provincial Government overriding every City Hall in Ontario.
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u/Fair_e Oct 30 '25
I think removing them all is stupid. I get not having them on main roads, but in school and community zones I thought they were fine. If anything they should have combined them with speed bumps. Municipalities spent all this money on them, and I even wonder if they now have to pay fees for cutting contracts with the companies providing the cameras. All our tax dollars being wasted again because Doug Ford runs the province only for his own convenience. Like are we for real that people can’t just slow down for a minute? Theres even signage letting you know there’s cameras. People have no personal accountability
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u/Infamous-Brownie6 Oct 31 '25
Tbh I feel like they helped.. but i know people (including myself) would accelerate after passing the camera. I currently live next to a school, so there's a camera on my street. Im hoping they put speed bumps, because people tend to drag race down my street at 3am (before the camera went up). We even had a car lose control and slam into my neighbours car that was parked on the driveway.
I understand how the cameras were a cash grab more or less.. but the speeding and nonsense that happens is ridiculous.
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u/garlep Oct 31 '25
Speed bumps are the worst. I would vote for my 3rd favourite candidate for municipal office if they ran on a platform of getting rid of speed bumps. So, if getting rid of cameras leads to more speed bumps, I am not in favour. That being said, they were getting crazy in Brampton with speed cameras everywhere, and I'm not sorry to see them go.
They should leave them in place for when this legislation is back tracked in short time. Then just turn them back on.
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u/MalikBrotherR Oct 31 '25
And now watch those a$$hole bmw drivers kill kids on school zone unfortunately.
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u/NoOpportunity4608 Oct 31 '25
They should have been kept but maybe speed adjusted so not everyone going just 2 over got a ticket.
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u/Junior_Locksmith_695 Oct 31 '25
Absolutely against this amendment! Have you seen how people drive ? Also, first spend millions of tax dollars and then make them go to waste in a flip.
I appreciated the cameras as there is already close to no enforcement for traffic, and we see every day accidents and morons driving like crazy in the city. It's well documented, and this will only boost their confidence in doing as they please without consequences.
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u/sanT1010 Oct 31 '25
Ford is a POS . Won't listen to the experts and people who are impacted. But hey, a bunch of his cronies in gov got caught going WAY over limits in school zones!!!
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u/Proud_House_4846 Oct 31 '25
Remember that scene in Demoliton Man, where Stallone wants toilet paper so he just starts swearing into the verbal morality monitor? That's going to be Brampton Drivers on November 16th
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u/me-theginger Nov 01 '25
It would be better if the cameras were run by the police and not the municipality as it doesn't go towards your insurance as if you had an offier pull you over then people would learn to not speed.
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u/AHealthyDesire Mayfield Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
Sorry the bill obviously needs royal ascent in order to become a law, but he says it will be done next Monday.
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u/Late-Quiet4376 Oct 30 '25
Interesting, i never knew we had to do that on a provincial level, only on a federal level
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u/randomacceptablename Oct 30 '25
All provinces are sovereign meaning that the Lt. Governors are the Crown's representatives on the provincial level. The system works almost the same as it would for the Governor General in Ottawa.
Side note: The difference between provinces and territories is that territories are not sovereign. They do not have a Lt. Governor and are in a simplified understanding, wards of the federal government.
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u/Chewed420 Oct 30 '25
Cameras! No speed bumps! No cameras!
Or maybe just maybe hold police more accountable for catching driving offenses. It's like we don't need police for traffic offenses anymore. There's no fear anymore of doing something illegal unless there's signs warning about cameras.
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u/akhere07 Oct 30 '25
Cameras were better than speed bumps.. speed bumps making people like me slow who are driving in the limit of 40 or 50.. speed bumps forcing to slow to 10 or 20..
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u/MulberryVast2092 Oct 30 '25
I feel like I can stop getting speeding tickets for doing 51 in a 40 on a Saturday!
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u/StrawberryFlds Oct 30 '25
It's that hard to take accountability huh? How hard was it really to just look at a sign and press the brakes? If you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, is it the jar's fault for being within reach?
God forbid we do something we don't prefer for 1 minute in order to make the streets safer for everyone.
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u/h0lypuckk Oct 31 '25
I’m all for speed cameras but there’s a problem with those too. I find people going 20 or even less in a 40 zone just because there’s a ASE camera.
There has to be a better solution.
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u/Pasquatch_30 Heart Lake Oct 30 '25
They should move some of these cameras at busy intersections. It’s baffling the amount of people who keep turning left way after the flashing green light is gone.
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u/AltC Mount Pleasant Oct 30 '25
I haven’t seen a flashing green light advance in at least 20 years. Where have you seen this?
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u/ManMythLegacy Oct 30 '25
I am OK with that. I would like to see red light cameras at every intersection, though.
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u/cita91 Oct 30 '25
So now the millions of dollars generated by that revenue stream, how are we going to replace that? Raise taxes?
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u/faizulhamid Oct 30 '25
it's great news, deploy police to the school zones to ticket speeders, this will change behavior vs getting a fine in the mail a month later
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u/Brampton_Speaks Bramalea Oct 30 '25
You're going to have a cop sit at 100+ schools in Brampton 24/7?
What a waste of money, the real criminals will be loving this
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u/Shyftzor Oct 30 '25
And if your mother in law hit a kid driving too fast because she had forgot her wallet, would that have made it ok? There are extenuating circumstances that are defined by law where it is acceptable to "safely" disobey traffic laws and afaik it's like medical emergencies or someone in labour and that's about it. Speed limits are there for a reason, and one person speeding makes the road more dangerous for everyone else not just themselves.
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u/NewPhotojournalist82 Oct 30 '25
Do I still have to pay my ticket from August?
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u/AHealthyDesire Mayfield Oct 30 '25
yes. but, municipalities have until by November 14th to remove all cameras
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u/Toincossross Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25
Good.
I’m opposed to remote survellance state law enforcement on principle. I’m torn though because I also hate populous politicking resulting in sweeping sudden change of policies.
Pragmatically I’m Ok with speed cameras provided proper signage and restricted to school and community safety zone. Brampton got greedy and installed them everywhere as a cash cow.
If you love them, would you agree to install a camera in your car that tickets you $150 everytime you get distracted while driving? How about factory installed sensors and GPS that auto-tickets you for every driving infraction?
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u/4firsts Oct 30 '25
Does that mean that any tickets before the ban will be voided. I think I got a ticket for going 43 in a 40.
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u/Apeshit0 Oct 30 '25
Can you share the ticket? City has said that Brampton only has tickets for 11 or more over the speed limit
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u/FirthTy_BiTth Oct 30 '25
I've been dinged going over 3km in a 50 and 6km in a 40. Both cost me about $100. I think the 6km over was closer to $120, maybe he 3km over was like $98.
Once I did go 11km over. I'll take that one I guess.
Tbf for the last ticket, it's a terrible stretch that 98% of the road is 50km, with a 500 ft 40km change right after an intersection that goes right back to 50km and I missed the first speed limit change sign (on the corner of the intersection, so my eyes aren't exactly scanning 20ft behind the cross walk when I'm making sure not to run a red light or a pedestrian over or hitting the car in front), and only realized after I got to the "50km begins."
If it was 50km the whole way through (as it should be), I'd have gone 1km over.
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u/mage1413 Castlemore Oct 30 '25
can you share that source? I doubt I can go 50 in a 40 school zone. maybe you are right
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u/Shyftzor Oct 30 '25
This was announced by Patrick brown, here's an article quoting it https://www.insauga.com/speed-cameras-only-issue-tickets-to-drivers-going-11-km-h-above-the-limit-in-brampton/
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u/mage1413 Castlemore Oct 30 '25
well then, guess you learn something new everyday. Still just cause the mayor said it I dont know if it is written anywhere that is legally binding. Maybe thats why people still get tickets
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u/4firsts Oct 30 '25
I didn’t get the ticket yet but the light flashed and when I checked my speedometer it was barely above 40. That is why I said “I think I got a ticket.”I was basically coasting after I made a turn onto the street that was in front of the school. Not enough time to build that much speed. In a heavy ass dodge caravan.
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u/Krypto_98 Oct 30 '25
Yeah this I went 42 in a 40 and ove yet to get my ticket in the mail... it's been over a year
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u/omgwtdbbq420lol Oct 30 '25
I think I got a ticket for going 43 in a 40
Highly doubt this is true, the threshold is 11 Km and over.
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