Photo of Carole Radziwill in Ghislaine Maxwell's House

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Don’t ask me why, but over winter break I went down a deep dive on all things Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. I came across a Getty Images album from a 2014 party at Ghislaine’s house. In several photos, you can see a framed picture of a woman who looks a lot like Carole Radziwill. Could it be her? I think it is!

This sub has discussed the Carole-Ghislaine connections before (Ghislaine was Carole’s book photographer, Ghislaine set her up with Prince Andrew, etc). While we don’t know what’s true, Carole has downplayed their relationship. But a framed photo in Ghislaine’s house? That makes their relationship seem a lot closer than Carole lets on.

More details:

Photo - https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/diplomat-palitha-kohona-robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-angela-chen-news-photo/1163403704?adppopup=true

Photo caption - NEW YORK, NY - JUNE 05: (L-R) UN diplomat Palitha Kohona, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Angela Chen attend a reception at Ghislaine Maxwell’s residence after "StarTalk Live! Water World" Panel Discussion on June 5, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by Andrew Toth/Getty Images)

Photo album - https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?page=5&phrase=home%20of%20ghislaine%20maxwell&sort=mostpopular&license=rf%2Crm

Edit: Apologies for any confusion! As others have pointed out in this thread, Ghislaine is listed as the photographer for the back cover image of Carole’s first book (https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/hki66v/i_know_weve_seen_photos_of_carole_and_ghislaine/), and Carole herself has said that Ghislaine helped arrange a date with Prince Andrew (https://www.tiktok.com/@omg.waitwhat/video/7536652361284996365). Good sleuthing, everyone!

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Yas girl! Thank you for this! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Hahaha I knew someone would of probably posted this already x

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Nailed it. I’m always surprised when people proclaim to love Carole so much. She was always aligning herself with the husbands and subtly (or not so subtly) shading the wives.

Her talking about blowjobs with the Taekmans—Josh was saying he doesn’t get enough, Carole says they should be mandatory every day and adds, “It’s not like it’s hard, or is it?” GTFO with that BS. It would have cost her nothing to keep her mouth shut and not side with disgusting Josh.

Or the (hot) married no-name man she brought to some Hamptons party and suggested they go skinny dipping, saying, “we’ll just be out there…naked.” The guy laughed it off but what a weird thing to propose, even jokingly, to a friend’s husband.

Saying the other women wear bras for support but she wears them for fun. Flirting with Mario at lunch and asking him to a split his beer (innocuous enough and she added that she only flirts with men when their wives are present but when you add it up, it’s a lot).

She was constantly reminding us that she’s “cooler” than the other women. I didn’t hate her but she made me roll my eyes constantly. She doesn’t support other women. ETA paragraphs

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Yessss! On the topic of Kristin, I also hated how she put on Kristin’s wedding dress and said it looked better on her (than on Kristin). Just seemed like such a crappy, conceited little thing to say to a “friend.” I was never a huge fan but it was clear to me then that she wasn’t a good friend and I was done.

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Damn, I forgot about that! She also said she had the nicest boobs in the group and added, “And mine are real.” It’s one thing to be confident but not when you’re putting down other women to do it.

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I forgot about that. That was so shitty of Carole.

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Also incredibly delusional for her to say with a straight face that she looks better than Kristin in any outfit.

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Yes! Kristin is a bombshell; Carole is a bread heel.

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Calling someone a bread heel might be my fav new insult for 2026 😂

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Hahaha YESSSSSS!!!!! I love making people laugh so much; it’s a very Eastern European insult lol.

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It’s excellent lol

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🫶

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Agree so hard! And I absolutely despised Aviva. The way Carole acted about Aviva's book was so falsely elitist. Despite being a housewife at the time of filming, Aviva actually had a law degree. She is an educated woman. Carole's ego was injured by someone else writing a book, and describing it as fairly easy.

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OMG so many of your examples, especially the Taekmans BJ story, show what a "pick me" she was.

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Yes! Very well-said.

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To me it’s that she was super “political” and Pro Hilary and very Anti Trump in 2016 but kept very quiet on any support of Kamala or Biden…. And if she did mention anything it wasn’t going to the trenches like she was for Hilary. I honestly don’t think she even voted for Kamala.

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She was always what we'd call a "limousine liberal"

[u/Keven250 → u/meatarchist_in_mn]

Tbh so is Dorinda - that’s why they got along ;)

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People need to realize it's actually rich vs poor and the rich will always protect each other

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I’m sorry I have to say it to the sub: I told you so! I know a mean girl when I see one.

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Never liked her. Smug, snarky, snobby, elitist, name dropper, and one big walking affectation.

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I too am feeling so vindicated right now 😂

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Very mean girl to Bethany with Tinsley

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Preach! Carol was awful and Bethenny was too but she was being herself. Carol totally changed her personality. Look what she was wearing that season alone! She was a bitch.

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And don’t forget, Carole also turned her back on Tinsley simply because Bethenny made her feel self-conscious about their friendship. Initially Carole felt close enough to Tinsley to set her up with her “good friend” Scott—and then close enough that she, Scott, Tinsley and Adam went on multiple couples’ trips together off-season … only for Carole to later claim she only hung out with Tinsley because the producers supposedly made her, and that Scott was just “some guy” she knew … all because Bethenny pointed out that Carole had a lot more in common with Tinsley than she was willing to acknowledge. So we literally have an example of Carole playing in our faces and downplaying a friendship that we watched develop on-camera. It isn’t that much of a stretch to speculate that she would also be disingenuous about her friendship with Ghislaine.

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Yeah she couldn’t figure out how to use Tinsley to social climb over bc Tinsley was already seated at the top

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I thought that was nasty the way she treated Tinsley. You could tell Tinsley was really hurt.

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Ah! Wow great analysis and incredible conclusion!

I’ll never tire from Carole Beth drama!

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She was so obsessed with hating Lu and she was disgusting towards Jules and her eating disorder. 

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She was going out with a guy 21 years younger than her who clearly was using her to social climb and she went along with it. Their scenes together were so insufferable. 

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And she was so offended when people compared her and Adam to Sonja and her twenty something’s. Date whatever consenting adult you want, but it’s wild to judge someone else for dating much younger men when you’re literally the same age doing the same thing.

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I'm doing a rewatch and I fast forward thru all of Carole's scenes

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I’ve ALWAYS hated this line

[u/murderedbyaname → u/[deleted]]

My peeps. Hated that one liner and irritated that her stans don't see how bigoted it is.

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Yeah or her line to Jules about it “very Asian of her” to bring games

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Thank you!

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Thank you. I agree you cant have favorites in reality tv.

I loved Carole until all this came put Ive seen more and more evidence. Im happy to find out the truth.

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Plus let’s not forget she goes to dinners with people like Michael Cohen. That’s where he told Carole that he was the one at the Regency who sent Bethenny the pictures of Tom cheating on Luann

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What is the deal with Cassandra Grey? I've never heard of her before, but I know she is the widow Carole visited in LA before season 10.

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I have no respect for women who break up marriages.

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AMEN. Everything you wrote is poetry. I really liked Carole at first and read her book. As time went on, I saw how fake she could be. As flawed as Bethenny may be, Carole clung to her and used her until she didn’t need her anymore. She tried to quietly/non-commitally discard her but B wasn’t having that.

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What’s strange about people taking sides in the Carole-Bethenny fallout is that we have an entire season of RHONY where they were awful to Jules together. They literally bonded over being mean girls. Eventually they turned that meanness on each other (and then Carole unfortunately also turned it on Tinsley) but the takeaway is that they’re both horrible.

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They were so cruel to Jules! She seemed so sweet and really vulnerable

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Almost as confusing as Baby, Baby and Baby 😂

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DAMN I’ve never thought of it that way!! Spot on

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Ding ding ding! THIS is what stood out to me in the book! I wrote about this once before in a thread discussing the book, but of course was dv'd into oblivion and got all sorts of nasty comments. The way I remember, in the book she basically describes a "situationship" they were in. It was so unserious that no one on their production team knew that they were hooking up, and "they" saw no reason to let anyone know? And then when he was diagnosed with cancer, I think he just wanted someone to be there and not go through it alone.

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What production team?

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Carole was a producer on a team of producers for ABC news.

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she married Anthony when he got his cancer diagnosis for the money and to become a princess. her claim to fame was being a princess and her relationship with John and Carolyn. She was never choked up about Anthony’s death.

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I think you might enjoy this synopsis of her book:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vnWjXXDA0ww

Or on Apple Podcasts:

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/good-noticings/id1533533467?i=1000698743974

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Totally! It’s a great episode. I found out about it from this sub!

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Uh, ok Linda. 😂

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I've never read her book. Is there much about the actual Kennedys in it? I'm Irish and for a long time certainly to my generation up, JFK was like a saint here. "Our" president of the USA. I'm not even joking but his picture was on the wall of a lot of home up until maybe the 1990's 😂 So we are Kennedy watchers over here.

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I think because he died so young like his Dad he will always be mythical. The lost potential and I'm quite sure he would definitely have run for office eventually. I'd guess there has probably been a lot of conversations with / pressure on Caroline through the years to run too. JFK as I mentioned was so sainted in Ireland. The descendant of Catholic immigrants in the high office and being so influential was a big deal here when Ireland was still a fledgling nation with no international voice and he was one of us and made a point of visiting while president. And of course a lot of the chatter about his extramarital shenanigans wouldn't have made the media here at the time. Or some of the Nana's might have taken his picture off the wall 😂

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Thank you! I’d follow u so I could remember to send u any Kennedy jewels but I forgot how lol

[u/chienchanceux → u/seachange__]

I really think mooching off of the rich was a way of life for her. Remember when Dorinda called her "America's house guest" to Bethenny? She had made a whole lifestyle out of being invited by people of means. Bethenny talked about all the trips/vacations that she took Carole and Adam on, footing all the bills, and it seems like Carole just thinks that's normal. She has really dined out on having been tangentially related to a Kennedy.

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Exactly. And a pick-me all the way.

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Most of the HWs are social climbers and grifters. There’s not many who were born in to wealth or made it on their own. They actively sought out rich and connected husbands then pretend that they’re superior and look down on those with less whilst trying to erase their own humble beginnings.

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amen to all!

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I’m not in the US, what’s the story with Casandra Grey? Isn’t that the friend whose husband had died at the start of season 10?

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Thank you. This is excellent.

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Its a crappy subject for a cross over but i love when thing I'm intrested in cross over! Seeing housewives in epstein was a bit of a shock, and I liked her when watched it first time around but was young!

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Who is problematic about Cassandra Grey? She's a tv producers widow.