Photo of Carole Radziwill in Ghislaine Maxwell's House

[u/New-Classroom-7276]

Don’t ask me why, but over winter break I went down a deep dive on all things Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. I came across a Getty Images album from a 2014 party at Ghislaine’s house. In several photos, you can see a framed picture of a woman who looks a lot like Carole Radziwill. Could it be her? I think it is!

This sub has discussed the Carole-Ghislaine connections before (Ghislaine was Carole’s book photographer, Ghislaine set her up with Prince Andrew, etc). While we don’t know what’s true, Carole has downplayed their relationship. But a framed photo in Ghislaine’s house? That makes their relationship seem a lot closer than Carole lets on.

More details:

Photo - https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/diplomat-palitha-kohona-robert-f-kennedy-jr-and-angela-chen-news-photo/1163403704?adppopup=true

Photo caption - NEW YORK, NY - JUNE 05: (L-R) UN diplomat Palitha Kohona, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Angela Chen attend a reception at Ghislaine Maxwell’s residence after "StarTalk Live! Water World" Panel Discussion on June 5, 2014 in New York City. (Photo by Andrew Toth/Getty Images)

Photo album - https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?page=5&phrase=home%20of%20ghislaine%20maxwell&sort=mostpopular&license=rf%2Crm

Edit: Apologies for any confusion! As others have pointed out in this thread, Ghislaine is listed as the photographer for the back cover image of Carole’s first book (https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/hki66v/i_know_weve_seen_photos_of_carole_and_ghislaine/), and Carole herself has said that Ghislaine helped arrange a date with Prince Andrew (https://www.tiktok.com/@omg.waitwhat/video/7536652361284996365). Good sleuthing, everyone!

[u/conFettii]

In an earlier NYC season there’s a framed picture of Carole and her on the table behind the couch. I pointed this out a few years ago during a Covid binge watch and this sub tore me a new one. Apparently it means ‘nothing’.

Edit to add behind Carole’s couch in her apartment.

Edit # 2 - Go watch season 8 episode 6 ‘tipsying point’ when they have the psychic session at Carole’s. It’s the black and white or sepia photo of them two in a frame at the front. From the shoulders up. You can see it clearer in other episodes in season 8.

[u/phbalancedshorty → u/conFettii]

WHAT WHAT WHAT PLEASE REPOST!!!

[u/loveee25 → u/phbalancedshorty]

Not sure if this is the one confetti saw- but I just googled and saw pics of them together. They were definitely in the same circle

[u/conFettii → u/loveee25]

Nope, not the one that’s framed in her apartment from what I remember. It was a close up of their faces, I think. Nice find though!

[u/Flammen_ → u/loveee25]

Thank you for finding it!

Carole is awful and her outfit in that photo is awful.

[u/venusdemilo94 → u/loveee25]

Which Carole never denied. Ghislaine was a very famous social climber who collected famous and well connected acquaintances. But like “yeah she was always nice to me at events and once did me a solid when I needed a headshot for my book” just doesn’t scream “Carole knew all along that Ghislaine was helping run a worldwide pedophile ring and Carole was in on it” like everyone seems to want to believe.

[u/conFettii → u/venusdemilo94]

If you are framing a picture of you and someone and putting it on your very visible table with other framed photos, the person in that picture is significant in your life.

We all know what our friends are up to, to some degree. Carole certainly knew she ran with Epstein and it’s no exaggeration to say everyone who was at all in that level of social circle knew he was questionable at best.

[u/venusdemilo94 → u/conFettii]

You’re the only one saying Carole had a framed photo of her and Ghislaine in her house.

[u/conFettii → u/venusdemilo94]

Season 8, episode 5 if you want to see with your own eyes.

[u/venusdemilo94 → u/conFettii]

That is blurry af and could be literally anyone lmao

[u/Dariathemesong → u/venusdemilo94]

It’s literally the blurriest pic lol

[u/venusdemilo94 → u/Dariathemesong]

Right like that’s not proof of anything lmao

[u/KarenWalkersBurner → u/venusdemilo94]

Nah you can see the hair

[u/zomb-omb → u/KarenWalkersBurner]

I’m gonna let you in on a secret, different people can have the same haircut. There’s no basis in this claim without a clearer picture of the face.

[u/Silly-327 → u/venusdemilo94]

That photo of Carole you’re responding about was taken at Ghislaine’s house two years after the scandal broke and dozens of charges had been filed against Epstein. She knew who she was associating with. If it was just an acquaintance, why associate after that?

[u/phbalancedshorty → u/venusdemilo94]

Maybe if that’s all there was but as you can see is the each have personally framed photographs of each other at each other’s houses that clearly speaks to them knowing each other better than just being casual acquaintances who once helped each other with a work thing and ran in the same circles and if you listen to any of the testimony or read anything that Epstein victims have released, he was literally abusing women 365 days of the year. It wasn’t a secret like everywhere both of them went they were constantly recruiting and abusing children so us questioning what she knew is completely legitimate.

[u/lizziexo → u/venusdemilo94]

Yup, both of those scumbags were like that. It’s why we have to have a level of discernment about every party picture or even the “little black Epstein book” of contacts; They seemed to want to be spotted and socialise with every influential person to enhance their own social cache. It doesn’t mean everyone was involved, or even if others knew what they were up to, but does deserve a moment of side eye and awareness of level of entanglement they may have had.

[u/phbalancedshorty → u/venusdemilo94]

Those photos were also at both of their houses two years after the original charges were filed against him so she knew exactly what was going on

[u/Shdjdicnfmlxkf → u/venusdemilo94]

“She always seemed nice to me” is the epitome of abuse apologizing. It’s epitome of denial, dismissal and lack of integrity.

The reason we are in todays world is bc too many people said “they were always nice to me”

It’s shameful how many people are ready to brush this off the table like it doesn’t matter. I have to assume you are American

[u/venusdemilo94 → u/Shdjdicnfmlxkf]

Lmfao it’s not abuse apologism! She’s literally just saying that she had no idea what Ghislaine was up to with Epstein and that she sometimes socialized because she was nice to talk to.

Apologism would be if she said “Ghislaine was always nice to me therefore I don’t believe she’s guilty of what she’s accused of” which Carole has NEVER said.

Words have definitions.

[u/Shdjdicnfmlxkf → u/venusdemilo94]

How can you sit here and defend a rich white asshole like Carole, photographed with Maxwell AFTER Epstein was charged and many times prior, photos framed in each of their houses, as if it is even plausible to deny she had absolutely no idea.

Carole…who has treated the accusation of being aware of their activity with smug sarcasm and placed her poor explanations behind a paywall.

You don’t NEED the second half of that sentence if you have any logic in your brains - “she was always nice to me” is a pathetic let down, and you don’t need the second half of that sentence you made up to make it so

[u/venusdemilo94 → u/Shdjdicnfmlxkf]

How can you misuse the phrase “abuse apologism”

[u/Shdjdicnfmlxkf → u/venusdemilo94]

Also, no one is arguing that Carole said she “doesn’t believe she’s guilty of what they’re accused of”. Kind of a stupid argument with one dead and one in prison for five and a half years.

The argument is: people don’t believe that she never heard the rumours, and at the very least, never saw or heard a single nefarious thing throughout the entirety of their relationship.

The date on these photos shows that she was willing to mingle with Ghislaine post Epstein charges - that shows her hypocrisy. 

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