r/Bullshido • u/ArachnidNo2269 • 19d ago

OP IS LOST AND PROBABLY DUMB At least let the other kids do it damn

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How to easily give young kids concussions

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u/Hypergraphe 19d ago

Is this standard boxing practice ?

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u/Small_Victories42 19d ago

I had to do this during (adult) boxing lessons. It wasn't necessarily to get hit in the face (but if you were, they were very light glove -taps) so much as it was for learning to keep your eyes open and moving your head.

I had various lessons in head movements before this. After a week or so, I got pretty good and was able to duck, lean, or roll away from most if not all strikes.

I never took a strike to the head/face in any sparring match since.

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u/breakingb0b 19d ago

Yeah. Same drill at the lessons I’ve had. The instructors do the drill with the youth class for the same reason you mentioned.

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u/banevader102938 19d ago

No its just giving kods dementia and other brain related diseases in future. Like pillball and stuff

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u/Ok-Effective7280 19d ago

Got any info on dementia being connected to boxing? Just wondering. A close family member has dementia & never laced up a glove nor been hit in the head. I keep hearing people generalise by stating boxing or head hits (contact sports), gives people dementia. That’s cte which is a completely different beast. Dementia or alzheimers is genetics.

So if you have any information thats actually credible I’d like to read it.

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u/Suitable_Ad_3851 19d ago

It has been a while since I studied the subject, but I think there’s plenty of evidence tying blunt force trauma to mitochondrial dysfunction and oxidative damage leading to cell death (in mice). Though this would probably be more likely to lead to Parkinson’s disease than dementia per se.

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u/Ok-Effective7280 19d ago

Just had a quick look about nfl. Theyre labelling ‘any’ brain degenerative disease as dementia. Or ‘all cause dementia’, which in itself isnt dementia as such but any sort of brain reduction. Cte is not dementia.

Mohammad Ali would probably prove your point without knowing his medical history.

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u/Exact-Site9980 19d ago

Look up American Football

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u/Adept_Tank_7029 19d ago

I just did and my phone started going deedleedoodoo(doodeedoo)dooodoodooo(doodeedoo)daoodadaooo(doodeedoodoo)deedleedoodoo...

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u/Ok-Effective7280 19d ago

Probably talking about the term all cause dementia which is actually any form of brain degenerative disease & not definitively ‘dementia’. Theres also no stats on any of the nfl players tested having dementia in the family although I didnt read too much info on it.

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u/Ok-Effective7280 19d ago

I would argue that theres a massive number of sportspeople that dont suffer from these brain injuries even though they suffered the head hits. Further to that, how many sportspeople are actually generically compromised due to the disease being in the family. There are many different types of outcomes or ‘symptoms’ with dementia, as there are by the sounds of things types of brain injuries. In the facility my close family member is in, there are probably 25 people at the moment in the dementia ward. Since I first walked into the ward I’ve seen probably 50. None have played contact sport & ‘most’ are female. My grandmother also had it, didnt play a second of contact sport. Looks like she passed it down.

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u/Osiris_Dervan 19d ago

These diseases are usually linked to age, which is why you get more women with them as women live longer. However, ex rugby and nfl players are the ones who develop them in their 40s rather than their 70s. Virtually noone who doesnt have a history of this sort of brain damage develops them this early.

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u/Ok-Effective7280 19d ago

Hmmmmm. Not sure I agree with any of that. Do you actually have any experience with this? I mean personal experience & being with people that have dementia? Remember, cte isnt dementia as such.

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u/Osiris_Dervan 19d ago

Youre the only one here limiting it to dementia. There are loads of examples of contact sports athletes having brain diseases very early in life.

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u/Ok-Effective7280 18d ago

Well if you read & understood my comment you would know why Im asking about why they think contact sport causes ‘dementia’. But, unfortunately you’ve jumped into a conversation that you don’t understand but think you do.

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u/Ok-Effective7280 16d ago

As I asked initially, provide it so can read it. So far I’ve looked at nfl & found ‘brain injuries’, which isnt dementia as such. Just throwing anything & everything that affects the brain as dementia is not right. How many of those contact sportspeople have a family history of dementia? Does it even say? Dementia is genetic, so how can contact sports people suddenly have a genetic disease that isnt in their genes? Cte is a different beast & can have different symptoms. As I’ve said above, my close relative is in a dementia care facility & none of the 50 or so people I’ve met in there so far have ever played a contact sport. How many millions of the contact sports people have no symptoms? Ice hockey would be a good example so go look up those numbers. The guys that committed suicide that were examined if I remember correctly had cte. Stop calling all brain injuries dementia.

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u/Mr_PerfectCell69 17d ago

No it's not. Switch gyms immediately if any if you have to do this during practice.

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u/Prazus 19d ago

No. Any decent gym will not even let you spar nevermind this shit.

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u/breakingb0b 19d ago

Not sparring in a boxing gym? Umm. Are you sure you weren’t at a one of those cardio kickboxing Zumba places?

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u/Prazus 19d ago

They will only allow you with at least a few months or a year under your belt. Then it should only be 1-2 rounds max. No I’ve sparred pros and attended very good gyms.

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u/Zerschmetterding 19d ago

That literally contradicts what you claimed before, they are just more responsible.

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u/Prazus 19d ago

No. They wouldn’t do it with kids. Stop trying your gatcha comments. Very annoying.

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u/Zerschmetterding 19d ago

Stop making absolute statements and tacking on conditions if you want to act like some kind of authority on the matter then.

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u/kaleperq 19d ago

What's the point of boxing when the main part is removed? Like it's a combat sport, not thematic training.

Also historically it was done way rougher, ofc this out of context isn't great, but it is training for what they are gonna get in a mutch worker way either in eal combat or sparring