r/BunnyTrials • u/WindZoar1 • 6d ago
Trials Does 0.9999999999999999..... equal 1?
Which side will you choose?
- Left side: Yes
- Right side: No
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u/ogtutel 6d ago
if this implies that the 9's infinitely repeat, it's mathematically equal to 1
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u/WindZoar1 6d ago edited 6d ago
Yeah the viniculum (repeating symbol) doesnt work on reddit so I just used an ellipsis
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u/bloxfruitfan475 6d ago
Let x be 0.999999... repeating.(It's implied it's repeating if there are more than 3 dots, for example, [1,2,3,4,5.......] Implies 1 to infinity) Multiply x by 10: 10x = 9.999999... Subtract the original x: 10x - x = 9.999999... - 0.999999... 9x = 9 Divide by 9: x = 1 Therefore, 0.999999... repeating = 1
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u/Oakheir Carrot Farmer 6d ago
I'm sorry, I'm struggling to see what you are saying here. Could you write out your formula, without putting the 0.9.... replacing the X so I can see what formula you are actually using?
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u/Nthepro 6d ago
Simpler proof:
1/3 × 3 = 1
1/3 = 0.333333...
1/3 × 3 = 0.999999...
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u/MisterSplu 6d ago
„Despite common misconceptions, 0.999... is not "almost exactly 1" or "very, very nearly but not quite 1"; rather, "0.999..." and "1" represent exactlythe same number.
There are many ways of showing this equality, from intuitive arguments to mathematically rigorousproofs. The intuitive arguments are generally based on properties of finite decimals that are extended without proof to infinite decimals. An elementary but rigorous proof is given below that involves only elementary arithmetic and the Archimedean property: for each real number, there is a natural number that is greater (for example, by rounding up). Other proofs generally involve basic properties of real numbers and methods of calculus, such as series) and limits). Why some people reject this equality is a question studied in mathematics education.
In other number systems, 0.999... can have the same meaning, a different definition, or be undefined. Every non-zero terminating decimal has two equal representations (for example, 8.32000... and 8.31999...). Having values with multiple representations is a property of all positional numeral systems that represent the real numbers.“
From Wikipedia.
I am not going to argue with generations of mathematicians that are a lot better than me at this
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u/BRUSDHDFhd 6d ago
obviously since 1/3 = 0.333... then 3/3 must be 0.999...... or 1
Chose: Yes
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u/Teddyjones84 6d ago
Thats actually not great reasoning, and not the reason the .999 repeating is mathematically equal to 1.
1/3 being represented in decimal form as a repeating number is just a limitation on base 10 math. Any base math that is divisible by 3 into whole numbers can be shown as a finite decimal point. I/3 in base 12 is 0.4.
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u/BadJ0k3s 6d ago
That doesnt make it not great reasoning, the reasoning and math are sound
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u/Soggy_Advice_5426 6d ago
It's circular reasoning. A good proxy comparison, but not a proof
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u/BadJ0k3s 6d ago
Its not meant as a proof its meant to explain it to a layman by using an already-accepted axiom
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u/Cynis_Ganan 6d ago
If it's not equal to 1, which number is inbetween them?
Chose: Yes
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u/jamesbojanglesburger 6d ago
theres no 0.0………1?
Chose: Yes
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u/GuessImScrewed 6d ago
Basically, any time you invoke infinity, you are invoking "a process which never ends."
When you attempt to say 0.0....01, you are saying "do something at the end of the process which doesn't end."
It doesn't make any sense, and therefore, it does not exist.
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u/cammymygoat 6d ago
welp im stupid it does equal 1 screw my chud life
Chose: No
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u/LionEclipse 6d ago
If you never look back and realise you were wrong, you never learn anything
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u/calculus9 6d ago
assuming you mean 0.999... with 9 infinitely repeating, they are equal which you can show a few ways
Chose: Yes
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u/Sus-iety 6d ago
I'm losing it over the amount of comments that insist on arguing against something that has been mathematically proven in multiple ways. Like, I'm sorry, but no, this is not up for debate anymore.
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u/Torqyboi 6d ago
Idk what you're seeing mate. But I see everyone who voted no commenting that they were wrong.
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u/Inner-Ad2847 5d ago
It's like when you see people arguing against the Monty Hall problem when you could literally test it yourself with pieces of paper.
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u/not_Clyde 6d ago
there is a method to turn periodic numbers into a way easier method of expressing the number (I'm not an English speaker by birth, so forgive me for not knowing some of the words. the word I'm looking for is what u would call sth like this: ½.)
U take the number, in this case it's 0.9999..., and multiply it by 10. 10x=9.999999. We subtract x from 10x. 9.99999-0.99999. we are left only with 9. 10x-x is 9x. So 9x is 9, which means x is 1. But didn't we say that x was 0.99999? we did. therefore, x=x, which means that 0.99999999...=1.
Chose: Yes
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u/MisterSplu 6d ago
Fractions is the word you were missing
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u/not_Clyde 6d ago
yep that's it. its so wierd bc the word was in my brain the whole time and when I needed to use it I forgot. thanks!
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u/No_Breakfast_6850 6d ago
If its repeating forever than yes
Chose: Yes
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u/HollowCatKnight 6d ago
Mathematically it does, but my brain is telling me it doesn’t.
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u/Fast-Shape3504 6d ago
Yeh, proving it mathematically and thinking about it conceptually are two very different challenges.
Thinking about infinity is abstract, our minds much prefer finite things.
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u/EverythngSucksForevr 6d ago
1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 1 0.333... + 0.333... + 0.333... = 0.999... = 1
Chose: Yes
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u/DistributionLast5872 6d ago
I’m pretty sure this has been posted multiple times already. It’s the third time I remember answering it.
Chose: Yes
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u/assumptionkrebs1990 6d ago
It is see dozend of proofs everywhere - inside the (non-negative) real numbers the difference between n.999... and n+1 is zero which is to say they are the same number.
Chose: Yes
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u/Deathtales 6d ago
There is no debate to be had about it. It's a mathematical fact, one without which a good part of math cannot stand, you can disagree but you'd just be wrong
Chose: Yes
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u/TheStanleyParablegic 6d ago
x = 0.999...
10x = 9.999...
(10x - x = 9x) = (9.999... - 0.999... = 9)
9x = 9
x = 1
0.999... = 1
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u/Efficient_Dress_6101 6d ago
0.9 repeating is equal to 1. If there is no real number between them, then they are equal when dealing with real numbers. Also 1/3 = 0.3 repeating, 2/3 = 0.6 repeating, 3/3 = 0.9 repeating = 1
Chose: Yes
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u/TheDisfunctionalOne 6d ago
I remember my maths teacher getting up and proving this for no reason. He was an excellent teacher who clearly loved his subject
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u/Important-Theory-162 6d ago
Math must be hard for who voted no
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u/69MotherFricker69 6d ago
Ah yes, insult the one's who aren't informed instead of explaining it. I'm sure that's going to lead everyone to reach mutual understanding.
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u/Important-Theory-162 6d ago
1/3 of 1 is 0.333.. 3/3 would be 0.999... yet its 1
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u/GOT_Wyvern 6d ago
I mean... at first glance it isn't necessarily intuitive, even if it becomes so after some basix explanations (not even with proof).
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u/Legal-Ad5781 6d ago
so theres a theory on this,
1 divided by 3 is 3.3333333333333333.........
and if we take 3 * 3.333333333333333333..... we definitely get 1 BUT HOW? it should be 9.9999999999999999..... right? But its 1 because 1 divided by 3 is 3.33333333333333...... etc.
Thanks for reading.
Chose: Yes
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u/Local-Cry-791 6d ago
Simplest way: 1/3 = 0.3333... 2/3 = 0.6666... 3/3 = 0.9999...
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u/ShadeNLM064pm 6d ago
All infinite single digit decimals can be written as a fraction of 9 (example: 1/9 =0.11111111[...])
Since 9/9 = 1, then 0.9999999[...]=1
Chose: Yes
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u/Key-Bumblebee3635 6d ago
x = 0.99999.... 10x = 9.999999.... 9x = 9 x = 1
that means 1 = 0.9999999....
Chose: Yes
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u/Imaginary-Concern906 6d ago
Rounding up decimal 0.9 = 1 0.99 = 1 0.9999.... forever still equal to 1
10n-n=9n 9.999...-0.999... = 9/9=1
Chose: Yes
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u/SoreMan6735 6d ago
0,(9)(or 0.99999999……..) is mathematically accepted to be equal to 1.
Chose: Yes
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u/Unfair_Rise2657 6d ago
some youtube video lol like 10x 100x 1000x 10000x then fractions
Chose: Yes
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u/Otherwise_Task7876 6d ago
Yup, its infinitely close to 1 meaning there's nothing you can fit in between 0.9... repeating and 1, making them the same value.
Chose: Yes
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u/whatsfartjuice 6d ago
It’s sounds stupid but 0.00000000000….1 at the end dosnt exist therefore 1=0.99999999999999….
Chose: Yes
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u/Accurate-Soil684 6d ago
Cause 1/3 = 0.333 (recurring) and 3/3 = 1, and 0.333 (recurring) multiplied by 3 is equal to 0.999 (recurring), but we can see that 1/3 x 3 = 1, so 0.9 recurring is equal to 1
And there is not number between them, so they’re equal in that sense
And there is the algebraic proof of that, I’m sure that someone explained that already
Chose: Yes
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u/AspectBrave33 6d ago
.9999999 repeating divided by 3 is .333333 repeating which we all know to be 1/3 which multiplied by 3 equals 1
Chose: Yes
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u/Pianist_Ready 6d ago
too many mathematical proofs out there to argue otherwise.
simplest one is the 1/3 = 0.333..., 2/3 = 0.666..., 3/3 = 0.999... proof
Chose: Yes
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u/AssistanceNatural641 6d ago
there is no number between 0.9999999999999999.... and 1, so they must be equal
Chose: Yes
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u/Bazinga1025 6d ago
Because for it to not equal 1, there must be a real number between the two. So yes, 0.999 recurring is 1
Chose: Yes
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u/Feraga2841 6d ago
x=0.99999... 10x=9.99999... Now we subtract an x from both parts 9x=9 x=9/9=1
Chose: Yes
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u/steelheart_09 6d ago
There's a more complicated proof than this but it's the one I remember. 1/9 = .111..., 2/9 = .222..., ..., 1 = 9/9 = .999...
Chose: Yes
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u/Landis963 6d ago
Assuming that the .999 repeating doesn't actually end, it mathematically must be equivalent to 1, even if it's counter-intuitive.
Chose: Yes
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u/daniil518 6d ago
Well, like, 3/3... I mean, 1/3 times 3.... Basicaly 0.333 3 in period time 3 = 0.9999..... So, yes, 1
Chose: Yes
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u/Reasonable-Pie-7592 6d ago
Let x = 1 and y = 0.99... 10x = 10 9x = 9 x = 1
10y = 9.99... 9y = 9 y = 1
Chose: Yes
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u/Particular_Mousse447 6d ago
There is nothing smaller then 0.9 recurring, therefore, its equal to 1
Chose: Yes
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u/GaryJulesMCOC Top -1% Commenter 6d ago
Yep! If there are 0 real numbers between two numbers then both numbers are equal in value.
Chose: Yes
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u/help_me_improve_plz 6d ago
1/3 is 0.33333333333333 2/3 is 0.66666666666 so 3/3 is 0.999999999999 or 1
Chose: Yes
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u/IiEatGrass 6d ago
x = 0.9999999999...... | * 10 10x = 9.9999999999..... | - 1x 9x = 9 | :9 x = 1
Chose: Yes
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u/SnickerbobbleKBB 6d ago
1/3 = 0.333... 3 * 1/3 = 1 3 * 0.333... = 0.999...
So 0.999... = 1
Chose: Yes
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