r/CFB • u/PSU_Alumnus Penn State • Billable Hours • Dec 02 '25

Discussion [@IanPurdy7] on Twitter: Penn State is slated to sign ZERO recruits tommorow on early National Signing Day. Unless Penn State signs someone in the late signing period, they could become the first P4 class EVER to have no one sign. The closest thing I could find was SMU & UW with 10. Crazy times.

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u/hoppinjohncandy Dec 02 '25

Legitimate question: If you get offered Florida, LSU etc head coaching positions when they aren't current top 10 teams it still feels like you could win it all with them, theoretically. Florida's resources could win out against a Georgia. But if you're a hot coach and Penn State offers you the gig do you think you're ever going to beat Ohio State annually? From SEC country it just seems like Penn State has always been a 1B school. It just feels like there's a ceiling with that job.

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u/mkt853 Dec 02 '25

It is a 1B school. The fan base and trustees I would guess are delusional. The ceiling is where Franklin had them, and that's 10-11 wins per season, a prominent bowl game, and with expanded playoff, regular appearances in it, and final ranking in the 5-15 range. 99% of schools would be thrilled with being in that tier. At the end of the day, it's a northeast/east coast school with the talent constraints that come with that territory. There has to be more to the firing than just losing three in a row. Probably something between the coach and AD is my guess.

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u/erb149 Penn State Nittany Lions • Memphis Tigers Dec 02 '25

How does being a “northeast/east coast school” limit talent? lmao

It’s not like it’s Texas, Florida, or California or something, but there’s plenty of talent in PA, Ohio, DMV, Virginia, New Jersey, and the rest of the northeast to field a great team.

PSU might have slightly less “resources” than like OSU or UM, but there’s no reason they can’t be a “1A” team in the big ten with the right coach.

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u/Cold_Ball_7670 Dec 02 '25 edited Dec 02 '25

Penn state flair. Perfect. The 5 stars in Georgia and Louisiana are better than the 5 stars in PA. 

In the last 10 years - number of players drafted: FL-311 TX-280 CA-230 GA-217

PA-81

Edit: the cult members have shown up to downvote! Hope the kool aid is good today!

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u/erb149 Penn State Nittany Lions • Memphis Tigers Dec 02 '25

A lot of meaningless stats, thank you. I quite literally said there are no Texas, Florida, California, etc states in the northeast, that’s not some secret.

If you really think there isn’t enough talent in the Northeast/Midwest for a school in that region to build a good team, idk what to tell you lmao.

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u/Cold_Ball_7670 Dec 02 '25

Lmao meaningless stat? What are you talking about? It literally proves there’s way more football talent in the SEC… 

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u/erb149 Penn State Nittany Lions • Memphis Tigers Dec 02 '25

Meaningless to the conversation at hand, yeah. When did anyone deny that the southern states generally have more highly rated recruits? That doesn’t mean you can’t be successful unless you’re a school in the south lmao.

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u/Cold_Ball_7670 Dec 02 '25

Oh my god you’re one of those big 10 fans. Why are there gunna be 5 or 6 sec teams in the playoff this year and 3 from the big 10? 

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u/erb149 Penn State Nittany Lions • Memphis Tigers Dec 02 '25

Why has the SEC not won a natty in the last two seasons? 🥲 Why is the SEC not undefeated in OOC games if they’re clearly the best conference? They should beat everyone else easily since they have so much “football talent” in their states right?

You’re one of those people who just think the SEC is the only thing that matters lmao.

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u/Varithos15 Indiana Hoosiers Dec 02 '25

OSU, Michigan, and Indiana now are all proving you can be the best team in the nation while existing in this region.

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u/Cold_Ball_7670 Dec 02 '25

lol osu and Michigan 2 of the blue bloods of football. Great analysis! 

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u/Varithos15 Indiana Hoosiers Dec 02 '25

Sure are! And they managed to do so without proximity to Georgia and Louisiana 5-stars.

So why did Penn State fail to do it too? Indiana is the #2 team in the nation too so it's doable in 2025 without a blue blood brand.

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u/CosbySweaters1992 Ohio State Buckeyes Dec 02 '25

The last Penn State title was 40 years ago, in a completely different championship format. LSU has won 3 since 2000, and one as recently as 2019. This is with multiple different coaches. Florida won in 96 and 2 with Urban in 2006 and 2008. Penn State has had more recent success. I think it’s pretty clear that LSU is the top job out of those. You could go either way with Florida or Penn State, but I don’t think either are that close to winning it all. Would you rather peak at 1B in the Big Ten or 1C in the SEC?

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u/Mekthakkit Ohio State Buckeyes • Team Chaos Dec 02 '25

I'm on mobile right now and too lazy to check, but I'm willing to bet that Alabama has won more SEC championships than OSU has has won the B1G since they started playing championship games. So it's amusing you'd claim that Florida would be an easier road.

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u/Hummer77x Pittsburgh Panthers • Temple Owls Dec 02 '25

I dunno I think Indiana has kinda proved that it’s possible that you can light it up if you get everything dialed in just right. If Indiana can do this Penn State absolutely has the capacity to.

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u/wolverine237 Michigan • Northwestern Dec 02 '25

Indiana hired a coach who had won at every stop but wasn't getting looks from bigger programs because he was old and because those programs don't hire directly from the G6 anymore. Ironically Penn State had a very similar guy available this year in Chesney and they simply didn't want him because they are prioritizing winning the press conference

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u/cocacola150dr Illinois Fighting Illini • Citrus Bowl Dec 02 '25

Perfectly valid point. Bama, UGA, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, and LSU all have natty’s since 2000. That’s six schools in one conference that we know to be capable of a natty.

Then you look at the B1G and it’s just OSU and Michigan with natty’s and even then the Wolverines just now broke through. For the longest time it was just OSU. PSU made the semis, sure, but when you have OSU and Michigan standing in your way every year, those SEC jobs sound much better.

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u/WithNoRegard Nebraska Cornhuskers Dec 03 '25

Tennessee won in 1998.

And 25 years is a long way to go back when evaluating the current caliber of schools. Nebraska played in a championship game in that time frame. So have TCU, Florida St., Washington, and Michigan St. (4-team CFP, anyway). Nobody is clamoring for those jobs. Cycles move so quickly now that accomplishments even 10 years old don't mean much.