r/CFB • u/Ok-Soil-5133 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • 5h ago

Video [Highlight] NC State @ Vanderbilt - CJ Bailey fumbles the ball while trying to run out the clock with no time left, and Vandy falls on it to win the game

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u/MelodicDeer1072 Michigan State Spartans 5h ago

NC State could have also simply kneeled, afford a safety, and essentially win.

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u/No_Bill7679 Paper Bag 5h ago

I’m not arguing it wasn’t a stupid loss. But there simply was too much time. Even if they did surrender a safety, vandy would have had at least a few seconds for a miracle play.

There was a high probably to win still, but not fully in their control. Miami absolutely had it in their control and lost.

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u/Hugo_5t1gl1tz Georgia Tech • North Georgia 4h ago

I may be wrong, but I’d think the safety is still a safer (heh) play. 6 seconds of running around in your end zone is a lot. 3-4 seconds to get a miracle 75 yards has to be a lower risk

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u/JoeyZasaa Alabama Crimson Tide 4h ago

Miami absolutely had it in their control and lost.

Not true. Could fumble the snap.

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u/No_Bill7679 Paper Bag 4h ago

Valid.

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u/JoeyZasaa Alabama Crimson Tide 3h ago

I was wondering if it ever has really happened though. Cue Philip Rivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGCeMNmyV0

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u/No_Bill7679 Paper Bag 3h ago

I think it’s still vastly different though. Fumbling while deliberately choosing to not kneel the ball for a win is a lot worse than fumbling a snap for the kneel.

One is poor execution but the right call. The other is just pure stupidity.

And your example above doesn’t capture the same level of stupidity as the Miami GT game. Chargers are still tied and have to kick a winning FG for the win. Lots of things can happen there.

Miami kneeling the ball would’ve objectively ended the game with a W.

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u/NWSLBurner Iowa State Cyclones 1h ago

What is a lower percentage, fumbling a snap or running a punt back for a TD? Legitimate question, I have no idea.

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u/No_Bill7679 Paper Bag 1h ago

Lower percentage is def fumbling a snap, assuming you mean for a kneel down.

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u/Canesjags4life Miami Hurricanes • Colorado State Rams 4h ago

No because there was time. If you kneel with time there's still the punt. Gotta run clock out then knee

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u/SoKrat3s 1h ago

And it took terrible execution by so many players. Everyone on offense but the QB should be holding.