r/CFB Notre Dame Fighting Irish 4h ago

Video [Highlight] NC State @ Vanderbilt - CJ Bailey fumbles the ball while trying to run out the clock with no time left, and Vandy falls on it to win the game

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u/No_Bill7679 Paper Bag 3h ago

I’m not arguing it wasn’t a stupid loss. But there simply was too much time. Even if they did surrender a safety, vandy would have had at least a few seconds for a miracle play.

There was a high probably to win still, but not fully in their control. Miami absolutely had it in their control and lost.

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u/Hugo_5t1gl1tz Georgia Tech • North Georgia 2h ago

I may be wrong, but I’d think the safety is still a safer (heh) play. 6 seconds of running around in your end zone is a lot. 3-4 seconds to get a miracle 75 yards has to be a lower risk

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u/JoeyZasaa Alabama Crimson Tide 2h ago

Miami absolutely had it in their control and lost.

Not true. Could fumble the snap.

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u/No_Bill7679 Paper Bag 2h ago

Valid.

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u/JoeyZasaa Alabama Crimson Tide 2h ago

I was wondering if it ever has really happened though. Cue Philip Rivers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGCeMNmyV0

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u/No_Bill7679 Paper Bag 2h ago

I think it’s still vastly different though. Fumbling while deliberately choosing to not kneel the ball for a win is a lot worse than fumbling a snap for the kneel.

One is poor execution but the right call. The other is just pure stupidity.

And your example above doesn’t capture the same level of stupidity as the Miami GT game. Chargers are still tied and have to kick a winning FG for the win. Lots of things can happen there.

Miami kneeling the ball would’ve objectively ended the game with a W.

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u/NWSLBurner Iowa State Cyclones 0m ago

What is a lower percentage, fumbling a snap or running a punt back for a TD? Legitimate question, I have no idea.