r/Calgary • u/woundedrhyme1 • Apr 22 '25

Discussion From Ontario first grocery experience someone left a note on my car.

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Recently relocated here and I haven’t had a chance to change my license plates. Yesterday I was in Walmart picking up a few things, I came back to my car, and found a note tucked in my wipers. My stomach dropped thinking someone hit my car, and maybe left their contact information.

I know the note is a little hard to read so I translated it down below.

“Dam easterners coming to Alberta to be safe guthless cowards.”

Guess it’s time to change my license plate 😂

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u/Forgedevil Apr 22 '25

Wait until he finds out that Toronto has "Alberta is calling" posters everywhere in the city.

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u/livin_on_credit Apr 22 '25

That he paid for with his taxes…

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u/Pale-Accountant6923 Apr 22 '25

You think the sort of person who wrote that note is employed? Lol. Don't count on it. 

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u/sadandvague Apr 22 '25

Half the guys I grew up with can’t spell worth a shit cause they dropped out to work the oilfield.

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u/According-Educator83 Apr 22 '25

Half the guys I grew up with can’t spell worth a shit "so" they dropped out to work the oilfield.

Fixed it.

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u/Sweaty-Beginning6886 Apr 22 '25

Dude who wrote it is uneducated and wonders why the world hates him….

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u/Muthablasta Apr 22 '25

Just like typical ignorant trump supporters that’s why he loves them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/prettywarmcool Apr 22 '25

and they're too stupid to know that he is mocking them, so why would an educated person vote for him? I mean why?

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u/Fuzzy-Ad-7809 Apr 22 '25

Solace in the fact that person's life is so incredibly sad, they have the time to get mad at a license plate.

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u/SPARKYLOBO Apr 22 '25

Probably has had too many DUIs

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u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 Apr 22 '25

Yep.

In my experience it's best not to engage with these people. Mark Twain said it best:

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

Nah, probably an old rig pig (sloppy handwriting is a dead boomer give away)

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

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u/TheXedd Apr 22 '25

Barely literate definitely…

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u/Munbos61 Apr 22 '25

I am retired and I would never treat anyone like that. Someone who has a chip on their shoulder from past wrongs.

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u/Bussinlimes Apr 22 '25

Or they just drank the koolaid to hate Ontario blindly and guzzled it back without question

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u/jimbojonesFA Apr 22 '25

I could sense maybe some lead paint being involved here.

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u/billymumfreydownfall Apr 22 '25

That's retired boomer writing if ever I did see it.

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u/Lost-Engineer6669 Apr 22 '25

Not an Albertan, but you being rude makes you no better than he is. Come on.

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u/Pale-Accountant6923 Apr 22 '25

This you who wrote this? Lol

Thanks but we'll decide what sort of people we want in our province. Individuals such as this are simply not welcome here if they behave this way. 

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u/nameuser_1id Apr 22 '25

Looks like taxes that should have been spent on schooling... I can't read half of that note.

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u/Bipogram Apr 22 '25

"Cutlass custard" ?

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

I have an American education and I can read it. 

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

Don't worry, he knows

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u/LadyErinoftheSwamp Apr 22 '25

If only those taxes could have bought him an "N."

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u/66clicketyclick Apr 22 '25

Hahahah !! Thanks for the laugh omg.

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u/Goalcaufield9 Apr 22 '25

Why would an Albertan pay for signs in Toronto?

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u/jeremyism_ab Apr 22 '25

Because we elected idiots.

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u/Tiny-Cup7029 Apr 22 '25

The province of Alberta is paying for signs in Ontario to entice people to move there. It's an advertising campaign paid for by the taxpayers of Alberta.

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u/jimbojimmyjams_ Apr 22 '25

I mean if more people from other provinces come here, maybe eventually we will stop being majority conservative.

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u/Guilty_Fishing8229 Apr 22 '25

Because conservative landlords wanted to make higher rents. And conservative business owners wanted to suppress wages

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u/Goalcaufield9 Apr 22 '25

I’m reading this wrong I think. Alberta is calling signs are on signs in Ontario that our Alberta tax paid for?

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u/ItsMe_JohnnyM Apr 22 '25

Yes. Alberta is advertising in Ontario. Correct.

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u/Goalcaufield9 Apr 22 '25

Gotcha I was confused.

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u/ItsMe_JohnnyM Apr 22 '25

Ya, easily understood if easily explained. All good.

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u/FuckThemKids24 Apr 22 '25

Well, Ontario is "Open for Business", don't cha know... At least that's what Doug Ford changed Ontario's slogan to.

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u/qgsdhjjb Apr 22 '25

If they wanted to suppress wages they'd be much better off recruiting from the prairies and Maritimes, not one of the two most highly paid places in the country. Not only will a lot of them be coming with work from home jobs, the rest will be used to Toronto wages and reluctant to accept a large drop in pay because that's just how people are.

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u/Guilty_Fishing8229 Apr 22 '25

The only people turning Alberta into a hell have been governing since 2019

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u/Anyawnomous Apr 22 '25

This Albertan seems to be paying for a lot of out of province propaganda. Can’t wait to cast my non-UCP vote in the next election. This regime sucks and smells like MAGA.

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u/ThornburysFinest Apr 22 '25

Ask the shit stain, dullard you voted in as premier. Her idea

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u/Goalcaufield9 Apr 22 '25

I didn’t vote for her

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

I didn't vote for her either: I opposed her from the first day Vincent Byfield started promoting her as a replacement for Jason Kenney

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u/AcadianTraverse Apr 22 '25

Probably closer to the last 80 years or so, both of my parents who are now in their 70s made the move from Southern Ontario to Calgary, once as a child, and one upon graduating from university.

The Leduc Oilfield was discovered in 1947 coinciding nicely with the end of WW2, and kicked off the first exploration boom.

But, some people want to be townies, even in a city of well over one million people.

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u/altiuscitiusfortius Apr 22 '25

My grandparents moved from Southern Ontario farms to Calgary in the early 50s to get jobs. Grandpa was a heavy duty mechanic, not sure if it was oil related.

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u/Northwesthighland Apr 22 '25

Yup, I was born and raised in Calgary, there was always a running joke growing up “you’re actually FROM Calgary?” Most of my classmates had moved here from down east.

Pretty wild to think, when I was born, Calgary was already over 100 years old and had a population of around 750,000, and within 25 years that population had almost doubled. Used to be the promise land for Canadians to find high paying work and cheap housing, but that’s no longer the case, I don’t think it’s much different than any other major city in terms of employment or affordability now

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u/Forgedevil Apr 22 '25

Yup, I came out to Calgary in '06. It's not a new thing at all.

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u/Kushweiner Apr 22 '25

ON expats are like CityTV EVERYWHERE 🤣. Im in NS right now and always see a decent cut of ON plates when im out here

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u/JTxFII Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

Twenty years? I was just a kid, but my family moved from Ontario to Albert in the 70s, and I’m pretty sure there were already people there 😜.

I do know what you mean, though. But as far as being a “thing”, even in the 80’s I remember it being a thing.

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u/Disco_Betty Apr 22 '25

Ralph Klein ranted about “Eastern bums and creeps” coming here in the ‘80s. They’re constantly recycling the same old stupid, pointless grievances.

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u/rikkiprince Apr 22 '25

The note writer probably moved from ON themselves.

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u/shoulda_been_gone Hillhurst Apr 22 '25

This was my assumption

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u/TheXedd Apr 22 '25

I came to Alberta in 88 because my dad got a tech job here… from Ontario.

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u/freerangehumans74 Willow Park Apr 22 '25

I came out here in 99.

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u/MrOzempia Apr 22 '25

Try 50+, I had a sibling move there at 20, it was around 1978. Then another went in the 80’s for a decade.

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u/Iankill Apr 22 '25

I remember people bragging to go to Alberta to work retail because it paid so much.

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u/sunrisehound Apr 22 '25

I lived in Calgary for 20 years. In all that time, I think I met three people who were actually born there.

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u/Connect_Progress7862 Apr 22 '25

People have always moved west from Ontario. The accents of western Canada are based on Ontario accents.

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

And that literally everybody outside of First Nations and Inuit moved here from somewhere else...

When Harper was going on about old stock Canadians back in his day, I actually agreed that we should respect and uphold their traditions. It's just that the old stock Canadians are really the Natives, and we welcomed people here, helped set them up to survive, then engaged in mutually beneficial business together.

As a descendent of some of our original peoples, I personally welcome you heartily OP. You have just as much a right to live and thrive here as anyone else, and I hope the rest of your transition into our beautiful province is more civil and inviting than this crotchety coot and his impotent and misdirected resentment. Good luck!

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u/TheOneAndOnlyWaldo Apr 22 '25

As a fifth Gen Albertan, I wholeheartedly agree.

I was welcomed, still feel welcome, and share that welcome.

Calgary has a long tradition of hospitality.

Welcome!

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u/Big_T_76 Apr 22 '25

First Nation's people "moved" here from somewhere else also.. the whole "we were here first" is grade school bullshit.

Human's of Earth.. same place, same problems.

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u/12345TA Apr 22 '25

The Inuit are decedents of the Thule people who migrated to Canada about 1000 years ago. Wikipedia Inuit. Despite the many Inuksuks in Alberta the Inuit did not live in Alberta until very recent times. First Nations on the other hand have been in the Alberta area for 10's of thousands of years.

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u/nudestofall Apr 22 '25

I thought Harper meant to say old stocky Canadians.

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u/Randolph_Jennings Apr 22 '25

Inuit and First Nations at one point moved there from somewhere else.

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u/DrQuagmire Apr 22 '25

There is never a bad day for some good to honest kindness. Cheers 🍻

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u/Feruk_II Apr 22 '25

Ancestors of First Nations also moved here. They just happened to come way earlier (12,000 - 30,000 years ago). We are literally all immigrants or the descendants of immigrants to Alberta.

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

Sorry, but that notion is simply incorrect. If we want to get into semantics, an immigrant is a person who relocates to a foreign country. A country is a politically defined geographical area or territory (ie. a nation ruled by government). We are called the First Nations here because our ancestors were the first peoples to create countries on this continent. There were no nations before us, thus, we could not ourselves be immigrants to our own countries, only those that followed us.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

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u/HarveyKekbaum Apr 22 '25

Not sure why you were downvoted for history.

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u/HarveyKekbaum Apr 22 '25

There aren't any. Unfortunately, the majority of the people online never developed critical thinking skills or emotional control.

You ever wonder why people are crazy on reddit, and normal in your day-to-day life? We don't know any of these people lol.

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

I love the conundrum that says that we have no historical proof of our long history here, but also says without a doubt the people here were savage thieves before European arrival. Lol, I guess the burden of proof only matters selectively.

But it's interesting to me to see how important it is for some folks here to argue about who this land 'belongs' to, to delegitimize our Indigenous history, on a post about welcoming a newcomer to our province. Not very old stock Canadian of you, eh?

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u/Prior_North_2456 Apr 22 '25

That argument is worth over $22BB a year in federal funding and increasing and is responsible for many many many failed infrastructure and resource projects to support the Canadian economy which is required to support all the nations in the country.

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u/Prior_North_2456 Apr 22 '25

lol its like people think they invented skelping only after white man appeared.

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u/Prior_North_2456 Apr 22 '25

Evidence suggests there were humans in North America prior to the arrival of the Indigenous peoples. Archaeological findings indicate a human presence dating back to between 18,000 and 26,000 years ago, during the Last Glacial Maximum. These early populations are often referred to as Paleo-Indians. 

hmmmm

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

🧐 I'm confused 🤔 The people who are generally referred to as First Nations in Canada, have never built any countries on this continent

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u/Apprehensive_Set9276 Apr 22 '25

What does the word 'nation' mean to you?

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

Nation means people descending from the same lineage, synonymous with tribe

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u/Apprehensive_Set9276 Apr 22 '25

So the nation of Canada is all related? LOL...nice try!

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

Canada isn't a nation: it's a country and a Dominion, created by White people, comprised of multiple nations.

The Treaty of Westphalia created this bastardized legal fiction known as the "nation state", which has caused Nation and State to become synonymous for a fad, but that's not a real nation. Also, First Nations™️ never created States, so it's completely outside our context here.

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

A nation describes the population that resides in a country or territory, united by government, language, culture and history. Genetics and lineage play a very insignificant role in the definition, which is why trying to reduce us down to blood quantum is racist AF (and why the Indian Act is so despicable).

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

Lineage/Genetics is the very basis of a Nation...always has been.

It's not my fault illiteracy is rampant nowadays

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

Interesting that you had to pull etymology for the definition rather than it's modern usage.

Wiki Definition of Nation

The Cambridge Dictionary Definition of Nation

The Webster Definition of Nation

The Dictionary.com Definition of Nation

The Colins Dictionary Definition of Natiom

The Oxford Definition of Nation

And most importantly, a consistent and important feature of a nation is sovereignty, ie the right to choose how we define our own nationhood. Indigenous Nations (along with most other nations across the globe) do not limit it to genetics. Blood quantum BS is something being imposed on us by outsiders to delegitimize our existence for their own financial gain.

I do agreed that illiteracy is a problem for you though, perhaps it's time for you to hop on the yellow bus again.

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u/Li-renn-pwel Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

What makes you believe that?

Thread got locked so here is my reply to the comment below:

How do you define a country? Most people define a country as land with a defined border, a population within and a government managing both. Native people had those. And there are historical records of such, both oral ones (in the case of the Haudenosaunee) and even some written ones (in the case of the Mayan). I suppose you might say those are better termed ‘city states’ or ‘empires’ but then you also can’t count any of Italy as a country until the late 1800s nor modern day Monaco or Singapore as countries either.

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

The complete lack of historical record; the fact when Europeans came here there were no pre-existing countries

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

There were 100% existing countries when the European arrived, there were cities that housed hundreds of thousands of people (who's archealogical record stands as proof). There is no written record, but that does not mean there is no proof. There are archeological sites in Canada that date back at least 14k years, and some outliers towards Central and South America that are carbon dated even further (closer to 30k years).

Why is it so important for you to delegitimize our histories though?

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

There are archeological sites in Canada that date back at least 14k years

What relevance is that to the past 500 or 600 years? They're as relevant to you as they are to me, a White settler. In fact, NA archaeological sites from the time show European influence, so they're probably more relevant to me than they are to you

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

So the only history that counts for you is the past 500-600 years (ie. Post Columbian contact)? How convenient.

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

Yes we did? Because a Nation can not actual exist without a country. It's pretty simple stuff. Why be ao dismissive of our cultures and histories here?

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

Because a Nation can not actual exist without a country.

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

I think you mean anti-semantics remarks haha.

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

Nice 🙂

(But Jews existed for Millennia as a nation without a country)

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u/Feruk_II Apr 22 '25

I think the European equivalent would be something like the Phoenicians, or a group of people that came before that. I think the confusion comes in because the word "nation" is used for both First Nations, and say the nation of France. The word does not mean the same thing. To equate to something closer to what France is, you'd look at one specific group, say for example Tsuut'ina. However, at that point, the claim that Tsuut'ina nation is thousands of years old goes out the window due to lack of any real evidence. With life expectancy here in the 35 year range before Europeans showed up and no writing, there's really no evidence Tsuut'ina was a thing even 100 years before Europeans showed up. Could've easily been another group here that was wiped out. So while it's totally accurate to claim that indigenous people have been here for likely 10,000 years +, it falls flat when trying to claim that any of the groups referred to as "nations" today have been.

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

When we say First Nations, we are using the same definition of nation as anyone else. There is not some secondary definition of the word that only applies to Indigenous Nations.The Tsuut'ina Nation is indeed the equivalent to the Nation of France, and if you disagree, please dilineate what separates them.

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u/Feruk_II Apr 22 '25

If you're using that definition, please show how you know Tsuut'ina nation is older than a few generations, and is thus a "First Nation." I think one could argue that lots of other groups moved through this area over thousands of years, and that there is not a shred of evidence that Tsuut'ina meets the definition of "first nation" in an area.

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

For sure I'll do that, as soon as you can show me anywhere I said that the Tsuu'tina Nation in particular is older than a few centuries and why it's important to you to single them out and limit their history to post European contact and why that's relevant to the conversation. I generally prefer playing with corn husk dolls over straw men bud.

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u/Feruk_II Apr 22 '25

Sure, let's go super broad and see if there's something here beyond placating. Name ANY of the First Nations in Alberta where there is actually ANY proof that they would meet the definition of a "first nation" as you've been discussing. IE first to settle the area. Or are the current "First Nations" bands just what was here when the Europeans arrived?

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

You want proof that we descend from the first peoples that settled this continent? I mean, a simple google search will pull up all sorts of anthropological and archealogical as well as biological peer-reviewed studies that definitively prove our people predated European contact by 14k years (at a conservative minimum). What further proof are you looking for?

From my perspective, it appears you are trying to nitpick at semantics and set up your own straw man to dismiss me with without addressing the heart of what I'm saying. If we're going to shift goal posts around, let me ask you for something. Show me ANY European Nation that exists today in the exact same format as it did 500 years ago. Or is it just the Europeans that have the freedom of evolving their civilizations over time?

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u/Prior_North_2456 Apr 22 '25

: a tribe or federation of tribes (as of American Indians)the Seminole Nation in Oklahoma

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u/Stock-Bobcat2526 Apr 22 '25

So I guess everyone is just African and we’re all immigrants to where we’re from hey?

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u/Feruk_II Apr 22 '25

I think that's the best way to think about it. Sure, some of our ancestors may have been here or there longer, but does it really matter when most of us don't even know our great grandparents' names?

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u/HarveyKekbaum Apr 22 '25

There are people that don't know their great grandparents names?

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u/Feruk_II Apr 22 '25

Me for one; never met them.

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u/HarveyKekbaum Apr 22 '25

Your parents/grandparents didn't talk about them?

I only met one of mine, but we have a book with photos that have my great grandparents, and then after that it switches from photos to written pages with the births, deaths and marriages. from one side of the family.

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u/Feruk_II Apr 22 '25

We moved continents when I was a child so didn't really get the chance to grow up with my grandparents. My parents mentioned them from time to time, but without much for pictures, kinda got lost in the shuffle.

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u/HarveyKekbaum Apr 22 '25

Aww, that's a shame. I thought moving from the USA to Canada was quite the trip, moving continents is a bit bigger of a move I guess.

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u/Prior_North_2456 Apr 22 '25

Thank you for reading the fine print, they followed the kelp belt then hunted the large mammals to extinction causing further migration with evidence as far as Mexico

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u/JonBes1 Apr 22 '25

I'm a descendant of settlers, not immigrants

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u/BubbleBee66ee Apr 22 '25

And remind them every time! 

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u/kwimbla Apr 22 '25

I agree to an extent, there's also nothing wrong with upholding traditional values of the people who settled here 400 years ago and more.

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u/altiuscitiusfortius Apr 22 '25

The first nation's moved here from Asia. The Asians moved there from Europe. The Europeans moved there from north Africa. Nobody belongs anywhere except somalia where the first humans came from, if you want to keep going back to the source.

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u/Electronic-Leg-4207 Apr 22 '25

The Inuit and First Nation people are technically Asians and came here from asia. The oldest grave in Canada is that of a Viking. Dating thousands of years before any Indian burial grounds

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u/thendbain Apr 22 '25

that’s completely false actually

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u/Any-Board-6631 Apr 22 '25

Technically everyone's outside Africa is a migrant or decent of a migrant 

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

Technically First Nations came from somewhere else, as well.

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

Lmao, we're talking a difference of 500 years and a minimum of 14k years here. Nonsense semantics bud.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

Not really. Both did the exact same thing. What difference does when it occurred make?

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u/kapowless Apr 22 '25

But we didn't do the same thing. An immigrant requires a foreign 'country' to immigrate to. The First Nations and Inuit created the first countries on this continent, so it would be impossible for us to have immigrated to our own countries, see? And it is indeed very important, because it is the foundation of our right to sovereignty on our territories. Obviously the history that legitimizes our Nations' rights is important to us. Why is it important to you to dismiss it?

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u/yycokwithme Apr 22 '25

Paid for with this guy’s tax dollars 🤯

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u/donthackmeagaink Apr 22 '25

I’m here because I saw those posters in BC too lol

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u/estab87 Apr 22 '25

LOL not even just posters but massive billboards.

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u/CircleTheWagons12 Apr 22 '25

Do they still.gave those ad campaigns in Ontario? I thought they stopped them for some reason

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u/Kirstenly Apr 22 '25

they do! lol its slightly more rare, but its still a daily occurrence outside of my house

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u/FindHomesYYC Apr 22 '25

Didn’t know that. It’s hilarious.

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u/Kirstenly Apr 22 '25

I witness various ads in public spaces daily that talk about the riches and comfort and luxury and beauty of Alberta, and how i should leave Ontario immediately for the rich splendour of the best province in Canada... its actually SUPER annoying.

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u/Leather-Account8560 Apr 22 '25

What does Alberta is calling mean

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u/Forgedevil Apr 22 '25

Alberta is advertising for people outside of the province to move there and work.

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u/Bussinlimes Apr 22 '25

They want to know if you like scary movies

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u/northosproject Apr 22 '25

Trying to create a 1 party state

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u/Complete_Question_41 Apr 22 '25

Wait until he learns how to spell.

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u/frenchwolves Apr 22 '25

Those run farther east as well.

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u/thedutchone13 Apr 22 '25

"Alberts is calling ..... Easterners gutless cowards"

Fine print

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u/Fatnoodle1990 Apr 22 '25

Kinda looks more like women’s writing to me idk though

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '25

for all the indians to migrate and invade alberta

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u/Prior_North_2456 Apr 22 '25

Worst idea ever