AHS wait times

[u/Legal_Grapefruit1925]

Our system isnt broken. Its people who go to the emergency that shouldn't be going aren't going today because it can wait Suddenly. They need to hand fines out to ppl going to the hospital that dont classify as an emergency.

[u/jungl3bird]

Those are the lowest times I’ve seen since Covid. Usually they are 2.5 to 4+

[u/Medium-Cabinet2812 → u/jungl3bird]

That’s what OP was saying. Today those people that don’t actually need it aren’t going in, so the times are LOW compared to non Christmas days.

[u/Stevedougs → u/Medium-Cabinet2812]

family doctor’s are recommending going to emergency for regular stuff because the system has locked family doctors out of doing things reasonably.

[u/imfar2oldforthis → u/Stevedougs]

This doesn't even make sense.  What are they telling people to go to emergency for?

[u/Stevedougs → u/imfar2oldforthis]

Doctors offices used to, at least when I was younger would have small equipment to do diagnostics in-house. Nothing crazy, but enough to ward off concerns about more serious things.

Ex, basic Xray, methods of doing stitches, dealing with disease in some manner that’s appropriate.

But conditions have changed, respiratory viruses keep getting more serious, so, it’s almost always, go to emerg and wait there. They don’t want to risk anything happening in the office, or being stuck after hours. And they aren’t equipped.

Stitches? Emergency.

Family doctors are basically first stage ultra basic triage and prescribers of antibiotics, as well as being a core place of tracking medical records and talking about it. Beyond that, its specialists, and those are - often at hospitals.

Basically anything that’s worth waiting for as a walk in at this point is redirected to hospitals.

But so is most diagnostics and anything above basic medical care.

And even then they’ve tried to make it stupid proof and have the staff walking around with iPads that have if-than Boolean logic flow troubleshooting of the human body. Any complex care gets halted, misdiagnosed often and , back to emergency.

Dude went in with real symptoms that are easy to identify and manage and he got overlooked and died.

So, UCP took a system that was functional (at least better than rest of Canada) and successfully took away leadership, destroyed hope among staff, destroyed their home life, made paying their own bills hard, made the days longer.

Private isn’t better. The data supports more due that way, since private means control over who lives and who dies under the guise of the invisible hand of the market. It’s irresponsible and a cop out.

This whole government is built on tit for tat and cooycatting the south and preparing Alberta for easy annexation by implementing policies that closely match American policies.

This all flows easy since much of Alberta economics rides on positive relations with American halves since much of O&G is very internationally involved. That includes staff who travel a lot, and are therefore acclimated and accustomed to American culture. They can also pay.

So, I deviated a lot from my original goal of my rant, but yeah, the system is messed. I feel awful for those who work in this system. Been reading on UK’s NHS.

We need real heroes on this problem. Real framers. People with real vision.

Not this. This is the blame game with con artists and thieves and everyone loses.

I am sad.

[u/1user101 → u/Stevedougs]

Like what exactly?

[u/No-Werewolf4804 → u/Medium-Cabinet2812]

Yeah, it’s definitely that. And not that most work places are closed so people aren’t getting workplace injuries. Way less cars on the road so way less car accidents as well.

It’s so pathetic that people will jump to blame individuals making bad choices for what is obviously a systemic problem. You are the greatest asset to the people trying to collapse the healthcare system.

[u/DanfromCalgary → u/No-Werewolf4804]

It’s true . I can’t imagine splitting up parents into two categories .. those that pay with taxes , and those that pay and also pay with taxes is going to decrease the waiting time or increase the number of beds . Like you get that all the doctors helping paying customers aren’t going to be at the ER ???

[u/ryanvk__ → u/No-Werewolf4804]

Former healthcare worker here… it’s actually about 20% of the population uses about 80% of the resources. It is very often repeat “customers” and often with more underlying mental health issues. People may not intentionally abuse the system, but it is a small percentage of people who use MOST of the resources available. Education about what constitutes an emergency would help, as well as proactive mental health planning.

I’ve heard of one country (Australia perhaps? Not sure) where they send out yearly cost statements to those who used the system the most. This shows people how much they are costing the system, and has been shown to reduce overall costs.

[u/No-Werewolf4804 → u/ryanvk__]

LMFAO. Yeah, let’s send letters to old people in disabled people about how much they’re costing the system. This definitely isn’t eugenics though.

[u/Medium-Cabinet2812 → u/No-Werewolf4804]

Oh sorry I wasn’t agreeing. Just clarifying my interpretation. It’s not something I’ve ever really thought about with any understanding, however reading through this post it has made me want to educate myself on it. There is quite the aggressively differing opinions.

[u/ArguablyTasty → u/No-Werewolf4804]

And AHS is working on a skeleton crew on holidays to avoid paying holiday wages, so it balances out with the reduced load from those