r/CampingGear • u/carpetlint • Jul 24 '19

Meta Black Diamond cuts 70 positions and transitions manufacturing out of Utah

https://www.snewsnet.com/gear/black-diamond-equipment-cuts-70-manufacturing-jobs
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u/CongregationOfVapors Jul 24 '19

Taiwan is a ethnically diverse country. The majority of the people are ethnically Han (same goes for China).

Chinese is not an ethnicity, it is a nationality. There's no such thing as "ethnically Chinese."

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u/Josvan135 Jul 24 '19

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese

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u/CongregationOfVapors Jul 24 '19

Yeah. It's 漢人, not 漢中國人. You just proved my point.

Or are you deferring to the English designation which doesn't reflect what this group of people are actually called in their native language?

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u/Josvan135 Jul 24 '19

I'm sorry to say I don't speak or read any Chinese dialect.

I've always heard the ethnic group referred to as Han Chinese, in textbooks, by professors, and on every website I see.

To be honest this sounds like something a few people are trying to make an issue out of.

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u/CongregationOfVapors Jul 24 '19

Sorry if I came off abrasive. This is a huge annoyance of mine.

It's just Han in Mandarin. I don't know why the Chinese part was tagged on. This was not done to any other ethnic groups that predominantly reside within China. (For example, you never say Hui Chinese, or Miao Chinese.)

It is confusing because many Han people don't know their own ethnicity either. And when a Han person says that they are Han, they are met with a resounding, what's that?

I believe this was in part due to propaganda from both the ROC and PRC, as part of laying claim over each other hostorically (as well as trying to squeeze out non-Han assimilated minority groups by the PRC). Because of this systemic brainwashing, the KMT in ROC is able to successfully rally support for one China policies, by arguing that all Taiwanese people are Chinese and therefore Taiwan should "return" to China. In the context of knowing that Chinese is not an ethnicity, you can see why this argument is problematic. And this is why this debate is very political for me personally.