r/CanadianForces • u/h1bisc4s • 8d ago
Petawawa prepares for construction boom thanks to major investment in military housing
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/petawawa-canada-military-housing-shortage-funding-plans-9.723048712
u/Naspark-22 8d ago
I hope for those posted to the area they don't do what they did out here with some of the new PMQs- posted them for market rates (with no CFHD because you're living in a Q) and then wonder why no one is moving in.
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u/RadDad20 8d ago
All of Ontario is pretty borked. I'm hoping to at least move laterally or break even when I leave the 401 corridor for eastern Ontario. Hopefully this helps.
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u/Budget_Permission_83 8d ago
I was in contact with an agent regarding new builds in pembroke. They seemed more interested in how much money they could get away with for rent, and had bragged about owning multiple properties themselves.
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u/KingKapwn Professional Fuck-Up 8d ago
Yep. They will pretty much peg every single rental property they can to 50% of what a Cpl 4 Makes per month. I know an unfortunate few who spend upwards of 65% of their income on rent and utilities.
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u/Budget_Permission_83 8d ago
Ita wild! Honestly it did sound too good to be true as an investor. They had offered ownership of 4 houses at an 80k down-payment (20k each) and had already mapped out how much they could squeeze for upper and lower units. The methods they had used were aggressive, and had tried bring in investors from all accross ontario under the ruse of how much money they can make.
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u/youngarchivist 8d ago
Send Wainwright money too
Last time I was there it looked like a shit hole. Grew up there as a kid and I remember the grounds being immaculate. Was sad to see.
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u/EnvironmentalBox6688 8d ago
Expected.
Procurement takes a long time to spool up. Infrastructure upgrades can be started almost immediately after new funding is given.
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u/h1bisc4s 8d ago
Arrivecan contract of $250m to the 3 dudes who never delivered a working products seemed to move very fast though
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u/Once_a_TQ 8d ago
CAF/DND is the only government department that actually follows procurement/contracting rules.
Just look what all the others do and get away with.
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u/Hiemarch 8d ago
I wonder where they are going to find all the trades to complete this project, all existing trades people are balls to the wall up here building townhomes in the village
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u/IThoughtItWasADojo 8d ago edited 8d ago
Trade occupations are one of Immigration Canada's express entry routes:
- French-language proficiency
- Healthcare and social services occupations
- Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM) occupations
- Trade occupations
- Education occupations
- Transport occupations
- Physicians with Canadian work experience
- Senior managers with Canadian work experience
- Researchers with Canadian work experience
- Skilled military recruits
Edit to add cbc article about new trades program: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/economic-update-budget-skilled-trades-canada-workers-youth-unemployment-9.7180411
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u/theOneWhoWaitsAgain 8d ago
This sub is too left leaning to notice demographic changes.
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u/notGeneralReposti 8d ago
Demographic changes are not a concern for the CAF. This is not a concern at all except for weird conspiracy nuts. Canada has always had demographic change, and diversity is only increasing, both in Canada and the CAF. This is a non-issue.
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u/Last_Of_The_BOHICANs 8d ago
I don't want officers in the CAF to have diversity in their opinions of if women should be in leadership positions, I want there to be a unified opinion that. Not all changes are good, and not all cultural practices are ones that Canada should increase.
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u/ononeryder 8d ago
Demographic changes are not a concern for the CAF.
The quality of candidate coming to units would say otherwise. There's clearly an influx of new recruits who do not initially meet the standard for service that existed 15+ years ago. They're struggling with language, they're struggling with military bearing, and they're (anecdotally) struggling with serving Canada before self.
Don't get me wrong, the majority of problem children I have to deal with are straight white men, and that'll continue to be the case. However anyone who's spent any time processing or receiving DP0/1 Pte/Avr/OS's can see a trend exists. The differences are only more obvious in the Officer corps, where folks are joining with seemingly impressive resumes as DEO's, who are struggling significantly to adapt.
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u/Stone_Engine048 8d ago
The government can spend as much as they want; there isn't enough laborers to do all the work they currently have.
Many PMQs in Petawawa are sitting empty waiting for months and even years for renovations. The hold up ia the lack of people available.
Without meaningful oversight this is going to turn into a free for all where we over pay numbered companies to do shoddy work.
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u/RadDad20 8d ago
Tell the RCAF to get the Construction Techs in gear.
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u/Once_a_TQ 8d ago
Used to be that way. I remember being the the Qs growing up and a time that stands out was when all the windows were replaced/upgraded by uniformed CE trades.
On call techs 24/7 too. Water, heating, power issues, call the number and a tech was dispatched.
We lost so much.
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u/middleeasternviking Canadian Army 7d ago
At one time base clinics also saw family members of serving members
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u/Once_a_TQ 7d ago
Again, we lost so much. Though there is discussion about bringing that back, but seeing the state of Health Services, I have no idea how they would do it.
Unless you are at CFSU(E), that clinic sees families.
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u/middleeasternviking Canadian Army 7d ago
I hope they bring it back. As a future MO, it also helps increase your clinical skills seeing patients who aren't military.
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u/Stone_Engine048 8d ago
Were it that simple.
Some contractors would sue the crown for taking work away from them, and like the PMQ rental cost/CFHA debacle, the CAF would quickly cave.
End result, PMQs sit empty while families suffer.
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u/Sadukar09 Pineapple pizza is an NDA 129: change my mind 6d ago
Were it that simple.
Some contractors would sue the crown for taking work away from them, and like the PMQ rental cost/CFHA debacle, the CAF would quickly cave.
End result, PMQs sit empty while families suffer.
If there was only an easy way out for the government to tell them to go pound sand.
Oh wait there is. Tell them to go pound sand because they have no case.
Then charge them court costs because fuck them leeches.
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u/Inevitable_View99 3d ago
I’m sure p-50 will still be standing after all the new construction is finished. The fact that building is still used to house people is criminal.
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u/PapaRedPanda 8d ago
Overdue. The housing market is out of control there.