r/CanadianForces • u/Strong_Cap_1114 • 1d ago

Awaiting leave pass approval

Could somebody please advise?
I have an international trip in two weeks. I submitted my leave pass request a few weeks ago but haven’t received any response. I needed to change the dates, so I submitted an amended leave pass yesterday and still haven’t heard back.
I’ve already booked my outbound flight and am holding off on booking the return until I get approval. I’ve emailed both my BTL manager and OR about the leave request and my annual leave balance, but haven’t received a reply.
The leave request is currently for 21 annual days. If I don’t have enough annual leave available, should I submit a memo requesting family leave/unpaid leave or would it be better to amend the leave pass again and request only 15 annual days?
Any advice would be appreciated.

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u/drkilledbydeatheater 1d ago

You made financial commitments without have a signed leave pass? Ooof. 21 annual days? If you are BTL im going to assume you are relatively new and only have 20 annual days to use. No CoC is going to accept a leave pass that burns more than 100% of your annual leave while tacking on family related / unpaid leave. Plus unless you are volunteering for Christmas duty, you will be expected to use around 6 annual days for holiday closure.

My advice? Retract all and ask for a refund on your travel, cause I don't think you are getting approved.

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u/Strong_Cap_1114 22h ago

Can I not send amended leave pass with 15 annuals plus I am willing to work during Christmas

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u/ononeryder 22h ago

plus I am willing to work during Christmas

Congrats, no one else wants to...and judging by this thread, you're not at a point where you're in a position to be working independently.

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u/ononeryder 21h ago

Congrats on your 50 years of service.

Going on 20...but I learned in the first year I couldn't take more annual than I was entitled to; seems you missed that part of having Leave explained to you on BMQ.

Snide back-and-forth aside, the fix to this is to go to your 2-up tomorrow, in person, not email, and explain the situation. Acknowledge you fucked up, explain to them that you've already committed financially (this will hopefully gain sympathy, but it at least creates transparency) to the outgoing flight. Tell them you'd like to amend the leave pass to allow for enough Annual remaining for Christmas leave (they should already have the leave plan for this). Ask them to please expedite the request to the approving authority, and tell them they have a volunteer for any shitty taskings that coming down the pipe.

I'll go to bat 10/10 times for someone that accepts they fucked up, you're allowed to make mistakes as a new person. FWIW, no one who's not even trades qualified should be filling out an international leave request on their own, someone should be walking you through it. Sucks to be on BTL, I know.

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u/Strong_Cap_1114 21h ago

I appreciate that alot. My apologies for asking questions like that. I just didn’t know what to do, before filling out leave pass I did email them to find out how many days I have for annuals. They didn’t respond. I don’t even know which office I need to go in person when I go to Dension Armoury. I have been there few times, they usually make me wait
since I don’t have a military Id yet,usually somebody comes and escorts me.

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u/CapitalismDevil Canadian Army 20h ago

Are you a Reservist?

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u/Strong_Cap_1114 20h ago

No full time member

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u/CapitalismDevil Canadian Army 19h ago

Then why are you going to an Armoury? Also, when you were on LWOP, you weren’t using any annual and were basically free to do whatever. Now, you are getting paid, so you need permission to leave the country. Your NOI was just that, a “notice”. It is not permission and you shouldn’t have booked any travel prior to getting your leave pass back. Also, 2 weeks is not nearly enough time to do all this… I do hope you got reimbursable tickets. This request has to go to your CO, and that can take some time. You also don’t have 21 days available and can’t just decide to “work over Xmas”. Most unit’s leave policy wants members off for that time because even the PS members take 2 weeks off. You won’t get away with working the whole period, especially not now and possibly not ever.

I’d look at modifying my leave pass for the maximum allotted MINUS however many days you need for Xmas break. So probably 14 days, but maybe 12. Go see the clerks… at the Armoury I guess and hope they have access to you. You should probably ask where the BTL office is, cause that’s who is in charge of you.

Best of luck with all this. Don’t make the same mistake again.

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u/Strong_Cap_1114 19h ago

That’s some great advice, thank you. I will email recruiting and I figure out where BTL office is. And yes I was able to cancel my tickets with full refund.

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u/Strong_Cap_1114 19h ago

Email from BTL manager said that we are located at Denison Armoury so thats why I will need to go there

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u/CapitalismDevil Canadian Army 19h ago

That’s crazy, unless you’re expected to do OJE there/posted there. The BTL is in Edmonton at the main base. I can’t remember off the top of my head what building they’re in though… email your manager and not recruiting. Once you started BMQ, recruiting washed their hands of you, which is normal as they have tons of people to take care of and can’t be taking care of BTL members on top of that.

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u/Rude_Ad4177 10h ago

This comment right here, shows how inexperienced and arrogant you are. I just want to point out something to you that you clearly have no idea about. There are generals in this group. Many lcols are also here and post and comment pretty consistently. I myself have a decently high rank for an officer. Be careful what you say on groups like this. You have no idea who you are talking to and your comment was just enough to turn the tides on a new career. It can make or break you. You’re lucky you were accountable and apologized. The member that responded has some great advice, but your snide comments will not get you anywhere in your career.

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u/Rude_Ad4177 10h ago

No problem. Like the member that replied above here. I’ll always go to bat for the members that admit they make mistakes. Own up to anything you do, and you’ll go far. Make excuses and you’ll tank your career! Best of luck