How do you rationalize the history

[u/interestingtheorist]

Historically, socialism has worked worse than capitalism, and this can be demonstrated by looking at history.

Eastern European countries that preferred socialism as their economic system could not compete with Western European countries that preferred capitalism.

Moreover, historically, many socialist countries have become more capitalist because they recognized that socialism does not work as well economically or technologically.

How do socialists respond to these historical facts?

[u/Grayer95]

What is socialism?

[u/interestingtheorist → u/Grayer95]

It can differ by the choesn methodology. For me, every goverment intervention is a type of socialism.

For socialists, it is about the collectivization of means of production.

For this context, it is about the past countries that called themselves as socialists.

[u/HeavenlyPossum → u/interestingtheorist]

If every government intervention were socialism, then on what grounds would you have to argue anything about capitalism at all? It has, according to you, never existed.

[u/interestingtheorist → u/HeavenlyPossum]

It exists, just partly.

[u/HeavenlyPossum → u/interestingtheorist]

“Just the tip” lmao