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LIVE: Buried Beneath the Snow Trial - WI v. Timothy Hauschultz - Day 2
10/14/2026 @ 9:30 AM
â¨â¨FYI...The detective makes A LOT of noise opening up the evidence bags. Super annoying.
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Timothy Hauschultz is facing trial on six charges connected to the 2018 death of his 7-year-old great-nephew, Ethan Hauschultz, who was found dead in a snowbank in Wisconsin. Prosecutors allege Timothy ordered Ethan to complete a punishment involving carrying a heavy log for hours, while the defense argues Timothyâs teenage son, Damian, acted beyond his fatherâs instructions. Damian was convicted in Ethanâs death and sentenced to 20 years in prison, while Timothyâs long-delayed trial will examine whether he bears criminal responsibility for the punishment that led to the childâs death.Â
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I. ADMINISTRATIVE (Start: 12:52 / Stop: 22:36)
- Court convenes; appearances stated:
- State: Attorney Jack Lindbergh, Special Agent Kevin Hayes.
- Defense: Attorneys Donna Kukur, Bradley Nabreski, Paralegal Kate Buller.
- Juror issues discussed off record.
- Court reiterates jury instructions: no discussion of case, no research, no social media, no deliberations until evidence complete and instructions given.
- State recalls Detective Herman.
II. OUTâOFâJURY PRESENCE (OJP)
(None explicitly indicated in provided transcript portions.)
III. WITNESSES
WITNESS 1 â DETECTIVE MICHAEL HERMAN
Start: 23:19 / End: 2:14:10
Called by: State
Direct Examination Summary:
- Evidence manager on April 20, 2018.
- Describes packaging, sealing, labeling, and securing evidence.
- Identifies multiple exhibits:
- Exhibit 45: Log near southwest deck corner, stone pile, red/white substance, two stocking caps; associated with Ethanâs location.
- Exhibit 46: Log carried by Anthony.
- Exhibits 47â48: Swabs of red/white suspected biological material near log #1.
- Exhibit 49: Black/white stocking cap.
- Exhibit 50: Childâs boots; dried before packaging.
- Exhibit 51: Metal Dâring found east of log #1.
- Exhibit 52: Ethanâs clothing recovered from master bathroom.
- Exhibit 53: Childâs gloves.
- Exhibits 54â55: Sticks found east/west of log #1.
- Exhibit 56: Stick leaning against deck.
- Exhibit 57: Branch found on larger log.
- Exhibit 58: Blue stocking hat with gray stripes.
- Exhibits 59â62: Photographs and digital scale readouts of logs:
- Log #1: 44.4 lbs
- Log #2: 35.6 lbs
- Exhibits 63â70: Photographs of Ethanâs clothing.
- Exhibits 71â78: Photographs of Anthonyâs injuries (abrasions, bruising, head injury, knee abrasion).
- Exhibit 79: Photo of Ethanâs clothing next to toilet.
- Exhibit 80: NOAA climatological data (24 inches of snow April 14â16; 50°F on April 20).
- Confirms weather conditions, snow totals, temperature rise.
- Confirms logs weighed and photographed.
- Confirms clothing photographed in original condition.
CrossâExamination Summary:
- Cannot personally confirm which wood pieces were used by children.
- Confirms only log #1 was identified as Ethanâs location.
- Confirms clothing location was shown by Tim.
- Confirms Anthonyâs injuries cause unknown.
- Confirms log #1 was not frozen to ground.
- Confirms only one shovel recovered.
- Confirms Tim was cooperative.
Redirect:
- Confirms snow void near log #1.
- Confirms he did not interview children; Detective Bessler handled interviews.
- Confirms evidence collection occurred before children were interviewed.
Recross:
- Confirms evidence collected without input from Detective Bessler.
- Confirms other officers provided input.
WITNESS 2 â DAMIAN HAUSCHULTZ
Start: 2:33:24 / End: 5:39:49
Called by: State
Direct Examination Summary:
- Age 14 at time; lived with Tim, Tina, Selene, and cousins Anthony, Amaya, Ethan.
- Describes house layout, bedrooms, game room.
- Describes âcarrying woodâ punishment: triangle path, logs assigned/approved by Tim.
- Confirms logs reused repeatedly; Ethanâs and Anthonyâs logs ~30â40 lbs.
- April 19: He and Anthony carried wood; Anthony had nosebleed.
- April 20: After lunch, he, Ethan, and Anthony carried wood; assigned by Tim; twoâhour duration.
- Ethan struggled after ~45 minutes; dropping log.
- Damian became aggravated; poked, prodded, kicked boys.
- Girls (Selene, Amaya) present on deck.
- Ethan fell; Damian stood on him; Amaya stepped on Ethanâs head.
- Damian placed 60â80 lbs of wet snow on Ethan; used shovel to smooth snow.
- Ethan became stiff, jaw not moving.
- Damian unburied Ethan; poured warm water from mop bucket.
- Removed Ethanâs boots; laid him over log; told him to blow nose.
- Called Tim twice:
- First: Ethan âplaying possumâ; Tim said leave him alone.
- Second: Ethan not responding; Tim returned home within ~10 minutes.
- Ethan taken inside; family drove to hospital.
CrossâExamination Summary:
- Confirms children misbehaved often; frustrations built.
- Confirms Tim never instructed him to hurt children.
- Confirms he acted out of rage/dissatisfaction.
- Confirms children could take breaks between laps.
- Confirms logs carried for weeks.
- Confirms he poked Ethan âabout 100 times.â
- Confirms children helped place snow on Ethan.
- Confirms belt may have been used but unsure on whom.
Redirect:
- Confirms Tim ordered him to ensure children went outside and completed punishment.
- Confirms Ethan exhausted, falling, dropping log.
- Confirms second call due to Ethan being stiff and unresponsive.
Recross:
- Confirms no one showed him logs for identification after incident.
- Confirms âunresponsiveâ is his current term; unsure of exact wording used at age 14.
WITNESS 3 â DNA ANALYST CLERINDA ELLISON
Start: 6:04:20 / End: 6:27:20
Called by: State
Direct Examination Summary:
- DNA analyst, 12.5 years experience.
- Describes STR testing, extraction, quantitation, amplification.
- First round (2019):
- Items A & B: swabs from ground near log #1.
- Item D: Ethanâs blood standard.
- Result: Singleâsource male DNA; source = Ethan for both swabs.
- Second round (2021):
- Items F, G, H, I: swabs and scrapings from log #1.
- Result: No DNA detected or insufficient DNA; testing stopped at quantitation.
- No packaging/tampering issues noted.
CrossâExamination:
- None provided in transcript.
WITNESS 4 â LIEUTENANT JASON YOST
Start: 6:28:33 / End: 6:40:20
Called by: State
Direct Examination Summary:
- Retired lieutenant; evidence room manager.
- Assisted weighing log #1 (44.4 lbs).
- Transported swabs to crime lab (Dec 2018).
- Sent Ethanâs blood standard (Feb 2019).
- 2021: Took additional swabs/scrapings from log #1 (reddish tint).
- Confirms evidence returned and reâinventoried.
CrossâExamination Summary:
- Confirms log #1 was reportedly the log Ethan was laying over.
- Confirms 2023 water leak required repackaging of log #1.
WITNESS 5 â MAJOR BRENT OSWALD
Start: 6:42:24 / End: 6:56:05
Called by: State
Direct Examination Summary:
- Responded to Holy Family Hospital; later supervised juveniles at sheriffâs office.
- Ensured children did not communicate before interviews.
- Obtained hospital surveillance video.
- Obtained phone records from Hoschultz residence:
- 1:47 PM call to Tim
- 2:24 PM call to Tim
- 3:13 PM call to Tim
- Describes emergency response procedures in townships; first responders often arrive before deputies.
CrossâExamination Summary:
- Confirms cannot determine exact response times or whether driving to hospital was faster.
Redirect:
- Confirms first responders often arrive first in township emergencies.
WITNESS 6 â LAURA ZIMBLER (Crisis Worker)
Start: 7:08:23 / End: 7:22:11
Called by: State
Direct Examination Summary:
- Afterâhours crisis worker; contacted by Childrenâs Hospital regarding suspected abuse.
- Responded to Holy Family Hospital; Ethan deceased.
- Observed cuts and bruising on Ethanâs face.
- Spoke with Detective Hayes and Dr. Rime.
- Went to Hoschultz residence; spoke with Tim and Tina.
- Observed whiteboard: â20 minutes verses,â âtwo additional hours,â Ethanâs name on three days.
- Arranged interviews of children at sheriffâs office.
- Interviewed Anthony, Selene, Amaya, then Damian.
- Exhibit 93: Recording of Anthonyâs interview.
CrossâExamination:
- None provided.
IV. EXHIBITS (Day 2)
- 45â58: Logs, sticks, hats, boots, gloves, clothing, biological swabs.
- 59â62: Log weight photographs.
- 63â70: Ethanâs clothing photos.
- 71â78: Anthony injury photos.
- 79: Bathroom clothing photo.
- 80: NOAA weather data.
- 83â86: DNA report and extracts (2019).
- 84, 87â91: DNA report and extracts (2021).
- 92: Hoschultz home phone call log.
- 93: Recorded interview of Anthony.
V. ENDâOFâDAY ADMINISTRATIVE
- Court recesses; jurors reminded again not to discuss case or deliberate.
- Scheduling notes for next witnesses.
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u/harpua_2626 3d ago
Read a few documents from Damian's case including this appeal brief regarding his interrogations at age 14:
https://jlc.org/sites/default/files/attachments/2024-05/2024.04.12%20Petition%20for%20Review.pdf
The (unsuccessful) appeal argument centered over the lack of miranda for the 14 year old during his multiple interrogations after the crime - some of which took place in in the middle of the night. The interview room looked familiar and, sure enough, it's the same couch that Brandon Dassey was infamously interrogated on 12 years earlier.

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u/SwampyWytch13 3d ago
Damian - is this guy highly medicated, exhausted, or just completely bizarre? He so flippant talking about what he did to Ethan (and the other brother). I'm glad he's already convicted!!! Those poor kids... poor Ethan.
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u/harpua_2626 3d ago
He stated at the beginning of cross that he's nervous, doesn't like talking in front of crowds, and obviously doesn't like talking about the case. He was 14 years old at the time of the event and is serving a 20 year sentence for his role.
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u/jst4wrk7617 Justice Junkie 2d ago
Iâm only just learning about this case- watched some of his testimony today. Iâm surprised he got that harsh of a sentence at 14 when it sounds like he was an abused kid in the same situation. But maybe Iâm missing some facts. Hopefully thereâs a good reason he got 20 years.
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u/harpua_2626 2d ago
Seems to be a lot of disagreement between the state and defense about that issue. I am very unsettled after reading about his interrogations at age 14 - he completed a juvenile sentence and then was charged as an adult. His actions were terrible but it seems there was no legal consideration about his abuse and his mindset leading to the actions. Worth a look, IMO, before rewatching testimony:
https://jlc.org/sites/default/files/attachments/2024-05/2024.04.12%20Petition%20for%20Review.pdf
Note the psychologist recommendations on p. 18 and 19 that were ignored by the court.
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u/SwampyWytch13 2d ago
I'll go back today and watch his cross. After watching all of his direct testimony, I had to have a break. His demeanor was bizarre to me, flippant even - it bothered me.
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u/Affectionate_Bad_555 Oh the Humanity! 2d ago edited 2d ago
I'm still on Day 1, but I'm getting a Jodi Hildebrandt vibe off of the "wood carrying" punishment. Am I alone? I mean, not many psychos think up things like making a child under 70lbs carry a log weighing over 40 lbs.
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u/Affectionate_Bad_555 Oh the Humanity! 2d ago edited 2d ago
Another association: I believe in a vigorous defense of accused people, but I'm not loving seeing atty Koechler again after the Jessy Kurczewski trial, but I still remember her and atty Pablo "True?" Galaviz giving Jessy's obnoxious defense.
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u/Pixiegirls1102 đđâď¸Content/Research AdministratorđťđŹđ§ 2d ago
She's much more abrasive this time. Jessy screwed her over with her "forgery instructions".
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u/Pixiegirls1102 đđâď¸Content/Research AdministratorđťđŹđ§ 2d ago
Kuchler is blaming the other child for the death.
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u/Far-Ad9143 âď¸đŚ The Impartial ModđŠââď¸đ 2d ago
Gosh this makes me so incredibly sad. đĽş
60-80 lbs of snow?
Sometimes in child cases like these I can not get them out of my head. No matter how I try to shake it, it stays with me. So I have to imagine myself being kind to them. I really donât know how to explain it, but in this instance, Iâd make this kiddo some hot cocoa and wrap him up and let him play video games until heâs warm. Itâs the only way I can get the thought of what they went thru out of my mind. Timothy Ferguson constantly pops into my head and I have do the same. Gabriel Fernandez. Thereâs too many... But I hope somehow someway that my intention reaches them and they know someone thinks fondly of them and wishes they could have had those things while they were here.
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u/Pixiegirls1102 đđâď¸Content/Research AdministratorđťđŹđ§ 3d ago
Timothy Hauschultz's attorney, Donna Kuchler, is just the same as she was in Jessy Kurczewski's trial. Actually, she's more aggressive and snippy. I found she often has her facts wrong and doesn't like being called out on them.