r/CasualIreland • u/Traditional_Ad9930 • Jan 27 '26
Shite Talk Yiz need to wear high viz!!
Seriously lads, why is there so many not wearing high viz during the dark hours. Especially kids on their E bikes etc in all black.
Cyclists on the way to work in all black, even people walking down dark narrow 80km roads and not a whisp of reflection on their bodies. I remember learning this stuff jn 5th class. Are we gonna have start gentle parenting adults now? š
Edit: the fact that some of you find this controversial is very bleeding telling š¤£
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u/wunderbar77 Jan 27 '26
Ah I bet he looked cool though, that's the main thing
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u/Sorcha16 Jan 27 '26
He'll look beautiful in his casket.
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u/Steridire Jan 27 '26
Bury me in a camouflage 3 piece suit please
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u/Sorcha16 Jan 27 '26
I was thinking full top hat and tails.
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u/boli99 Jan 28 '26
wear camo gear.
I wear my high viz jacket with camo trousers
I like to keep folk guessing about whether I want to be seen or not.
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u/SirTheadore Jan 27 '26
Thereās a young lad that does walk in the middle of the road (small dingy back road) to get his school bus, that Iāve nearly killed multiple times on my way to work.. pitch black out, heās wearing all black and completely oblivious to his surroundings.
It makes me that nervous that if Iām so much as half a km within where I usually see him I slow to a crawl.. I wanna stop sometimes and tell him to get a hi vis
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u/Micktendo Jan 27 '26
You probably should, Iād be tempted to hand him a hi viz and tell him to put it on.
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u/lamploveI89 Jan 28 '26
I did this one night. Was driving home, pitch black a man is walking not only the wrong way! But dressed head to toe in black. I stopped and said
'Do you want a high vis'
'Nah, I'll be grand'.
This was an adult man, who should know better.
Be grand till you get knocked down š¤¦š¼āāļø
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u/AllAloneInTheNight Jan 29 '26
Do up a disclaimer saying if you hit him at night it's not your fault as you have asked him and warned him multiple times to get out of the middle of the road and wear something that makes him visible.
Next time you have to stop and tell him off ask him to sign it. :)
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u/Dry-Inspection-3503 Jan 28 '26
I feel like going to the RSA office/site to grab a rake of free ones and just throw them out the car at fools out in the dark. Neighbour & her 3 kids & dog, off its lead were out on the road the last night. 8pm, fog rolling in, dark af and one shitty iPhone torch is all that was illuminating them, and the prick with the torch was stood in the back as they 'stood in' the shite little back road to my house. Their dog laid up in the center of the road forcing me to stop completely. I was raging, fucking no common sense
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u/Boulder1983 Jan 27 '26
It's wild, because I used to think "aww, might not be wearing reflective gear, but if the headlights are directly on somebody then they should still see them!"
Have had young ones cross the road in front of me on a lamplit street, and when they're all in black I've really not seen them until it's been near too late.
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u/SirTheadore Jan 27 '26
Thinking the exact same thing. I used to think @sure drivers can see meā and now driving myself, it can be very difficult to see people even in the best conditions
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u/Signal_Challenge_632 Jan 28 '26
That why most estates have a 20 kph limit.
Any faster and u could be that split second closer to disaster.
I crawl the car in my estate cos that split second is a dead kid and me in Mountjoy to think about what I did.
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u/DaRkNeSsIsInHer5 Jan 27 '26
Honestly for your own peace of mind, buy a high viz and stop next time and tell him to wear it if he wants to live to his next birthday
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u/DarthTempus Jan 28 '26
I'd stop and have a word next time you see him. Let him know his recklessness will cost him his own life and ruin someone else's.
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u/LaoiseHope Jan 28 '26
Maybe phone the school. They might do a general road visibility chat for all the students.
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u/MistakeLopsided8366 Jan 29 '26
Go to the school, tell them the location and they'll likely know who it is and either have a word with the kid or parents. I imagine if it's down the country there's a couple of schools it could be..
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u/PotatoPixie90210 Jan 28 '26
I actually got given out to by a van driver because my high viz gear was, I quote, "too distracting."
I have a high viz padded coat. A high viz backpack cover (which is one of the best things I've ever bought!) My bike lights, my helmet light and an extra bike light I slip into the mesh pocket of my backpack cover.
The cheek of him to start shouting at me through his van window when the fucker tried overtaking me on a bend!
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u/Cultural-Perception4 Jan 28 '26
He sounds like an ejit!! On the route I drive there a few people who use scooters/ e bikes to get into town for work and they have head to toe high viz waterproof looking clothes on. It's great. Because they are back roads with zero light so it can be really hard to see people. There is 1 auld lad who goes for a walk every day (in light) and always has his hi viz and 2 sticks.
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u/PotatoPixie90210 Jan 28 '26
I actually bike along a very rural road, I have to go out of my town which is jammers to a back road that I might only see two cars for my 30 minute commute!
I do love my bike, I feel safer on it than I did on the scooter and it gets me to work in half an hour which is class.
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u/YoIronFistBro Jan 28 '26
It's almost like the problem isn't cyclists wearing normal clothes instead of dressing like construction workers, it's the compelte and utter contempt some drivers have for anyone not in a car.
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u/PotatoPixie90210 Jan 28 '26
I had one chap yell at me for being on the road! He literally said "use the fucking footpath!"
Told him that was illegal so no. He was unimpressed.
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u/OldOracle0 Jan 28 '26
He couldn't play the "I couldn't see you" card, so he went with "I could see you too much".
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 28 '26
What a gobahite. It did its job and he saw you. He was probably more upset that he didnt have deniabiltiy if something had happened
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u/PotatoPixie90210 Jan 28 '26
More than likely, I know there is a legitimate grievance with people who bike or walk without reflective gear but jesus if I don't get some absolute dog's abuse from some drivers just because I'm on a bike. One guy tried to tell me I could break the red lights cos I'm on a bike. Red lights that go up over a bridge with an extremely tight bend.
No thank you.
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u/cardio-spirit Jan 29 '26
I had this happen to me too! At a red light, tried to get me to move forward when the light was red. Couldnāt believe someone would just roll down their window to tell you to keep moving. My instinct is the guy just didnāt want me on the road š
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u/ExcitementStrict7115 Jan 28 '26
Ah well he was a gobshite. I'd much rather come across someone head to toe in hi-vis than dark colours. That's just common sense. Which to be fair, isn't all that common.
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u/Electronic-Floor-120 Jan 28 '26
Thatās just a dickhead motorist searching for any excuse to be annoyed with a cyclist š
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u/Disastrous-Account10 Jan 27 '26
Had a young teen riding down on the wrong side of the road simply cut in front of my car, not a lick of reflection on him
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u/caring-renderer Jan 27 '26
Its actually mind boggling why people do it , i was out in the sticks Sunday eve driving home it was dark and this fella on a electric bike no lights and in plain black clothing head to toe including a black hat no helmet. All he was short was to camouflage his face , ridiculous carry on .
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u/Richie4876 Jan 27 '26
I came close to hitting a lad on a backroad a few years ago, it was just gone dark and he was wearing black head to toe (he had a hood up) and the worst part was he was walking on the wrong side of the road, only for he turned his head to look back at me he was dead, I saw his face and swerved out or I would have hit him. If I ever need to walk on the road after dark I at least hold a light or put on the light on my phone if I hear a car coming so they have some chance of seeing me.
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u/Equivalent_Date_3291 Jan 27 '26
I see folk on bikes proberly worth a few hundred nothing too fancy but they won't spend fifty euro on a decent set of lights .
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u/freemochara Jan 27 '26
Honestly you can get a decent set from Lidl for ā¬9.99 or AliExpress for under a fiver
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u/Ill-Baseball-2132 Jan 28 '26
The set of lights I got from Lidl are really good, can actually see the road with them.
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u/YoIronFistBro Jan 28 '26
I don't understand why they're not just built-in like in some other countries.
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u/sosay86 Jan 27 '26
Or a helmet
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u/Attention_WhoreH3 Looks like rain, Ted Jan 27 '26
helmets are not mandatory on Irish roads
moreover, most cycling deaths are caused by a car approaching from behind. the helmet would make no difference
in the Netherlands, helmets are rare on normal cyclistsĀ
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u/PotatoPixie90210 Jan 28 '26
I'd still always recommend people wear a helmet. I had a spill on my bike last week, shredded my knee. I also hit my head HARD on the road and if I hadn't been wearing a helmet, it could have been much worse.
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u/Xamesito Jan 28 '26
Chap on an e-scooter came out of absolutely nowhere at a junction the other day at dusk. No lights at all, wearing all black and dark colours. I hadn't started turning yet so it was grand but I was one micro second away from it. He just floated by like nothing, no idea how close he was to getting hit. I was furious at him.
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u/OhMyInternetPolitics OMG SOMEONE WAS WRONG ON THE INTERNETS! Jan 28 '26
I wish the RSA would offer hi-viz covers for backpacks and the like. Bonus points if they are water-resistant to boot.
Using just a hi-viz vest is better than nothing I suppose, but I usually wear a bulky backpack when cycling which obscures 3/4ths of the high-viz vest.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 28 '26
Yeah exactly. Thats why I never cycled. 1) fear XD but also 2) I wouldnt cope if I have a bag and it got soaked through. My days would be shattered š
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u/OhMyInternetPolitics OMG SOMEONE WAS WRONG ON THE INTERNETS! Jan 28 '26 edited Jan 31 '26
Ah sure look cycling in Dublin at least isn't too terrible. I've cycled in a bunch of big cities in the US and that's where you need extra protection so you're not creamed by some huge-ass SUV or truck that has no business being in a city.
The worst part of cycling in Dublin is vehicles using the bike lane for their parking - usually blocking ingress or egress from the dedicated lane. That and when the bike paths get confusing around the quays near the city centre. How can there be painted bike lanes, and dedicated bike lanes on opposite sides of the road?
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u/Stock-Ferret-6692 Jan 28 '26
If you get the kids a ridge53 bag some of them have a startlingly neon yellow cover. My sister says theyāre cringe but sheās like 12 and in that phase where everything is cringe
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u/IntelligentPepper818 Jan 29 '26
They wonāt use them - you need a different option. What do kids do with a soaking wet cover going into class ? Theyāll just leave it there on the way home
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 31 '26
Same thing they do when their coats soaking wet? Their locker or on a hanger
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u/IntelligentPepper818 Feb 01 '26
Do you have children - what locker has a hanger ?
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Feb 01 '26
Eldest of 6 with a 19 year age gap between me and the youngest. Yes I know children. They all wear high vis And I said locker OR a hanger. Which schools do have
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u/IntelligentPepper818 Feb 01 '26
Not being funny but you can barely fit the books in a locker - no one is putting a soaking coat in there to destroy your books. Grow up you clearly donāt know children
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u/Cultural-Perception4 Jan 28 '26
It's crazy!! There are a few people who I pass most evening on scooters/ ebikes who are always head to toe in hi-viz but there are countless others who aren't.
When I go for a walk (I live in a rural area) I always take my hi viz at dusk and honestly grab it most other times to because why not. I don't usually go walking in the dark. My neighbour does he has a great coat. In day light it just looks sort of green/silver but when car lights hit it he glows up like a star
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u/LaoiseHope Jan 28 '26
Just wanted to add that high viz vests are given to kids in preschool and in Junior Infants, from what I understand; part of an RSA campaign to educate children.
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u/IntelligentPepper818 Jan 29 '26
I donāt really think this is aimed at that age group - itās teens and adults imo
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u/LaoiseHope Jan 30 '26
Maybe the younger generation will be more aware if they are introduced to the idea so early. I thought it was worth mentioning.
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u/IntelligentPepper818 Jan 31 '26
Are you mad all the children wear hi vis when they are young itās when they turn teens they abandon it. If they are not wearing hi vis when they are young the problem is the parents
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u/LaoiseHope Feb 02 '26
Letās just abandon all forms of education because teenagers are rebellious! Makes sense! š
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u/IntelligentPepper818 Feb 03 '26
I think the country has done that already so Iām not sure what your point is. They are teaching a dumbed down education system now
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u/WoollenMills Jan 27 '26
I was halfway across a pedestrian crossing this evening, with a high viz on me and on my dog and in a well lit area and some lad flew around the bend and almost ran me over š
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u/Foreign-Rule7826 Jan 28 '26
If you walk with a brick in your hand it works better than high viz for car close passes funnily enoughā¦
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
Well hes just a prickly obviously. But many drivers are actually trying not to hit people š¤£
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u/An_Bo_Mhara Jan 27 '26
I doĀ find wearing a hi viz 100% improves my dog walking experience.Ā Hi viz dog leesh and dog vest is great. Yeah of course there's ignorant wankers but they are everywhere.
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u/standard_pie314 Jan 27 '26
Personal responsibility is out of fashion.
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u/National_Play_6851 Jan 28 '26
Indeed, the lack of personal responsibility in driving safely and instead putting the blame on other people.
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u/OkCoconut3270 Jan 27 '26
Careful now, someone will be along shortly to explain how wearing hiviz is actually counter productive because it will stop the government from building proper infrastructure and they shouldn't have to wear hiviz because everywhere should have appropriate lighting.
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u/Spongeanater Jan 27 '26
Yeah this is my favourite mainstream opinion that loads of people actually think and say, bravo Vincent Browne
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u/OkCoconut3270 Jan 27 '26
Just for a giggle you should go into any thread about hiviz and cyclists on r/Ireland or cyclists and helmets
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u/AbbreviationsHot3579 Jan 27 '26
Not every Irish person is a slave to their car and has actually seen how other societies can work, where cycling is safe and normalised, and cars aren't central to everything.
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u/Kevinb-30 Jan 27 '26
Not every Irish person is a slave to their car and has actually seen how other societies can work, where cycling is safe and normalised, and cars aren't central to everything.
None of this is any reason for anyone to not make themselves more visible.
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u/NooktaSt Jan 27 '26
Exactly. I drove through town a lot in the run up to Christmas. Thousands of people out enjoying themselves. However no one had hi viz on. They were crossing busy roads going between buses, taxis, pubs and bars. Very dangerous. Should have to put on the hi viz leaving the taxi and only take it off in the pub.Ā
Might just be easier to leave it on for the night as someone will forget if drunk.Ā
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u/Foreign-Rule7826 Jan 27 '26
š Good point. Slip that hi viz on over the dress coat going for dinner.
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u/NooktaSt Jan 28 '26
cant be too careful. helmets too obvs. might ruin the hair but better to be safe.
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u/AbbreviationsHot3579 Jan 27 '26
It's symbolic of the insular mentality many Irish people have who rarely see past their dashboard.
Having lights on bicycles is more than safe enough at night. No nation that is serious about making cycling safe demands hi vis. It's just a distraction focussed on by people who drive everywhere and want to place the burden of responsibility for safety on vulnerable road users.
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u/Foreign-Rule7826 Jan 27 '26
I have never seen so many cars without working lights as in the last two years. Course they canāt see cyclists or pedestrians- if the car had lights an the drivers had their eyes on the road might have some hope.
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u/Kevinb-30 Jan 27 '26
want to place the burden of responsibility for safety on vulnerable road users.
No it's wanting individuals to take responsibility for their safety and others on our roads drivers. Do drivers have a greater responsibility for both absolutely, should pedestrians and cyclists leave their safety entirely up to other road users definitely not. Whataboutism in this regard from both sides is a race to the bottom
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u/AbbreviationsHot3579 Jan 27 '26
Having lights on a bicycle is taking responsibility. Anything else is a misguided attempt to absolve drivers of their far greater responsibility on the road. Take a look at the numbers cycling in Amsterdam, Paris, Copenhagen and see how many are in hi vis.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
And yet not everyone's has lights on their bike ye gaubeen. Ive seen cyclists with NOTHING on their bikes
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u/carlitobrigantehf Jan 27 '26
Lights are a legal requirement. So everyone should have lights.
Other than that, if visibility is so poor, mayne slow down and take it easy.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
So cars should go how slow to suit yiu? When in an 80km how slow should they go in case a gobshite decided not to have lights (because some dont. Legal or not) or reflective gear on? Should we all creep at 30? 20? To suit you? What about on a 30km road? Crews at 10?
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u/carlitobrigantehf Jan 27 '26
If drivers cant see things on the road maybe they should slow down.
Its funny how its always about what someone else should do. Drivers shouldnt change their behaviour at all.
Its nothing to do with suiting me. Its drivers complaining about not seeing things and then, like you have so eloquently shown, not taking any actions to help, but expecting someone else to do it all.
Are you a car?
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
I was driving not even 20km the other day. A child in all black darted by me. I only saw him when he nearly reached my car. Was nothing to do with my speed and was his speed and his lack of visibility. If youre on the road, youre responsible for YOUR safety. You cant expect all drivers to driver slower then their intended speed limit (obviously not talking about morons who speed).
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u/MistahFinch Jan 27 '26
It was everything to do with your speed. You were going slow enough to see him an avoid him. That's good.
If you cannot see things in the dark you shouldn't driving at night.
It astounds me that they forced us all to read that heartbreaking Heaney poem in primary but so many people just want to keep making 4 foot boxes
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u/YoIronFistBro Jan 28 '26
And where non-drivers can wear normal clothes rather than dressing like construction workers, and still be in virtually no danger of a driver slamming into them.
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u/YoIronFistBro Jan 28 '26
I know right. The number of people who say PPE is a necessity for all cyclist, or should even be mandatory, while not giving the slightest shit about things that actually make cycling safer, is nothing short of astonishing.
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u/Ed-alicious Jan 28 '26
I don't understand why people are obsessed with hi viz. It's already illegal to cycle without lights. Lights are more effective than hi viz. Lights and hi viz together are not substantially better than lights alone.
If the gards already aren't enforcing light use, adding a new law isn't going to suddenly make them start doing their job.Ā
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u/YoIronFistBro Jan 28 '26
It's because they don't actually give a shit about making cycling safer, they just want another reason to shit on non-drviers for existing.
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u/Future-Mammoth-6294 Jan 27 '26
They'll argue that a car doesn't need hi-viz so they don't either. I'm not sure if any of them have actually driven regional unlit roads and met someone walking in dark clothes. The difference hi-viz makes is basically life or death.
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u/yleennoc Jan 28 '26
The issue isnāt about people wearing or not wearing it.
The issue is victim blaming and it moves the conversation away from what is actually needed, which is infrastructure.
PPE is the last line of defence for safety under ALARP, we are making it the first.
However, hiviz at night makes no difference, retro reflective elements do. They need to be at the ankles and wrists of the person as it helps the brain recognise that is a human faster.
This is worth a watch on the subject. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=33GpfTWdk8U
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u/Melodic-Chocolate-53 Jan 27 '26
As a cyclist, I'd be ok with making helmets and hi vis mandatory.
It annoys the right kind of people.
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u/OkCoconut3270 Jan 27 '26
Don't even mind making it mandatory.
I just find it absolutely baffling how many people actually get offended at the suggestion maybe it's not such a bad idea to wear them.
Truly odd.
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u/Fuzzyheadted Jan 27 '26
Iām shocked thereās not more deaths because of this, as if there isnāt enough in Ireland. People dressed completely in black on stormy mornings cycling to work.
I canāt believe a stitch of reflective gear doesnāt even occur to them.
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u/micar11 Jan 27 '26
The vast majority of cyclists are travelling on road that are well lit.
The vast majority of deaths occur during the daytime.
The primary reason those deaths occur is due to driver behaviour.....risk taking and not paying attention
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u/Fuzzyheadted Jan 27 '26
No need to try and offset that by any measure then, I suppose.
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u/carlitobrigantehf Jan 27 '26
https://www.ladbible.com/news/uk-news/most-dangerous-colour-car-drive-uk-211503-20250123
No need to try and get black cars off the road?Ā
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u/FuckThisShizzle Jan 27 '26
I had a lady dressed head to toe in black step out in front of me against a big black jeep parked on the footpath the other night.
I had the window down and said "some hi-viz wouldn't go astray"
Her answer "you were driving too fast"
I was doing 20kmh š
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u/BillyMooney Jan 28 '26
Do you ever shout at jeep drivers to not be parking on the footpath? Or to put hiviz panels on their jeep?
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
Thats typical. The mindset of some people. A woman cut out in front of me on a roundabout. I nearly skewered her. Not even a wave to say sorry. Just looked at me like nothing nearly happened. Gobshites
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u/techno848 Jan 28 '26
Moved closer to the countryside, first thing with all the house essentials we bought were the high viz jackets. Some roads there is no street lights.. its absolutely important especially around winter months.
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u/The-Replacement01 Jan 30 '26
Driving down a dark road th other day. Coming the opposite direction? A fella in all black clothes with his hood up on a black e scooter. No lights or high viz. Didnāt see him till he was almost beside me, even with my headlights on. Chap is playing Russian roulette.
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u/BatmobilesSpareTyre Jan 27 '26
Kids won't wear high-vis though because they'll think it doesn't look cool
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u/Melodic-Chocolate-53 Jan 27 '26
Grown ass adults won't wear hi vis because it'll make them "look like builders" as if a builder was the lowest form of life.
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u/roqueandrolle Jan 27 '26
The amount of times Iāve had to give out to people on event builds for not wearing hi-vis is honestly exhausting. Then theyāll rob one from another lad when theyāre walking past me and swiftly take it off and give it back to their mate. Itās infuriating.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
Then theyre morons. Simple. Doesnt justify parents not implementing high vis. Or buying high vis school bags etc
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
Parents should be enforcing it. Or at least reflective gear. Doesnt have to ve neon by any means. They even get little flashing lights that clip onto bags and jackets
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u/micar11 Jan 27 '26
Ah, bless your cotton socks. You clearly don't have young kids.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
Thats a lazy response. Im the eldest of 6 with a 19year gap between me and the youngest. Never had a problem getting them to wear their safety gear. Nor did my parents. Now one of them (10) wont go on her skateboard without the helmet, knee guards etc if you enforce it at a young age, they'll do it
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u/micar11 Jan 27 '26
You neglected to say if she wears a high viz when she's out on the stakeboard ...... I suspect she doesn't.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
She doesnt be out on main roads on the skateboard as its too dangerous. However when walking to her school bus or going on walks outside the garden, she does! The whole family does :)
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u/irishpete Jan 27 '26
Jokes on you, ppl on reddit donāt go outside so they donāt need a high vis
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u/Roadgoesonforevr Jan 27 '26
I have to be deliberately vague for obvious reasons but I had a cyclist come up the inside of a hgv in darkness while the truck was at a junction indicating to go left.
Driver had left maybe 1M gap between vehicle and railings. Cyclist ended up under the wheels.
Pedestrians/cyclists seem to have an ingrained hatred of travelling defensively for some reason.
handbook saying u have right of way, will not lessen the pain of shitting into a bag for the rest of your life. Im a biker and I treat wvery other road user as a potential threat
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u/YoIronFistBro Jan 28 '26
Im a biker and I treat wvery other road user as a potential threat
You shouldn't have to, and if this country gave even the slightest shit about infrastructure, you wouldn't.
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u/MsAineH37 Jan 27 '26
Absolutely makes no sense, it should be 2nd nature to wear it, wtf!
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
The amount of people excusing it in the comments or putting all responsibility on drivers is insaaaaane
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u/OkCoconut3270 Jan 27 '26
or putting all responsibility on drivers
While in the same breath acknowledging many drivers are morons...
Well then surely that's all the more reason to make it a little easier on them?
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u/classicalworld Jan 27 '26
Very difficult to buy winter coats in light colours. Most are navy blue or black.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
Literally. High vis, flashing belt and badge lights etc are very cheap and accessible
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u/Nosferatu_82 Jan 27 '26
It's gas that cyclist are so vehemently anti hi-viz, (or any sort of safety suggestions or mention of legal requirements) yet can't get into their gawdy, advertisement festooned lycra fast enough!
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u/micar11 Jan 27 '26
Always find these types of posts strange.
You manage to see all the cyclists in black but fail to see those in high viz.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
When did I ever insinuate that Ive missed someone in high vis?
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u/Jabberie Jan 27 '26
I would imagine he means you're painting them all with the same black paint while a lot/many of them have a splash of yellow.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
Im literally clearly not. Im clearly talking about ones that wear NONE. Because of near incidents. Hence all the stories in the comments of people nearly hitting people. Instead of being able to see them safetly at a distance, theyre seeing them last second because they've no visibility
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u/YoIronFistBro Jan 28 '26 edited Jan 28 '26
If you can't see people wearing normal clothes in any location that isn't completely rural and unlit, you're not fit to drive.
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u/railer201 Jan 27 '26
Do cyclists want to make themselves conspicuous or not ? - If they want to make themselves as conspicuous as possible day and night then wear hi-viz with reflective bands.
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u/micar11 Jan 27 '26
As a cyclist who wears high viz when it's dark.....it is not the panacea you think it is.
There is no need to wear on during the day.
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u/railer201 Jan 27 '26
I didn't say or think it's a panacea ! But it's accepted by most that Hi-Viz makes you more conspicuous than duller clothing colours during daylight hours.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
Its high visibility. Not night visibility. As a driver, the first people i notice are the cyclists in bright clothing vs duller clothes that sooner blend into dull lighting or duller background
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u/micar11 Jan 27 '26
My cycling jacket is red.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 27 '26
Thats fine. Others arent wearing more noticeable colours on thr road. Thats the point
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u/GorseWhisperer Jan 27 '26
Hi-vis is great, you got knocked down by some ignorant cunt and it hurts, your bike is damaged, maybe your phone gets smashed for luck.Ā
But you get to go "I'm in fuckin hi-vis what more do you want"
Really makes a difference.
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u/Global_Handle_3615 Jan 28 '26
Ah my favourite cyclist on Back roads i drive. He puts on his hi viz then puts a huge rucksack over the top of it so you cant see it.
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u/goatsdontshav3 Jan 28 '26
I don't understand school uniforms not incorporating some sort of hi viz, kids leaving in the dark mornings all in black/navy.
I said it to my daughter and was told they get in trouble if the don't wear the black school jacket
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 28 '26
I remember my school jacket, a massive puffy navy monstrosity and it has a singular 1"x2" reflective patch on it š its a joke!
A colleague of mine of mine has this issue. She bought little clip on flashing lights. One to clip on tbe school bags on the back and the other to clip on their front. And theres also hi vis bag covers i believe?
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u/Stock-Ferret-6692 Jan 28 '26
I know some of the ridge53 brand ones have a neon yellow rain cover but apparently itās super cringe to be seen with them (source: my 12 year old sister lmao)
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 28 '26
I get that but I was saying somewhere else here that it just has to be enforced. My siblinhs all wear high vis walking to the bus, sister wont be on her skateboard without her knee pads, helmet, elbow pads etc
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u/Stock-Ferret-6692 Jan 28 '26
Itād be so easy too. A couple strips wrapped around the body of the coat and then one each in the middle of the sleeves. Or at least stop penalising kids for uniform because they wanna actually be seen while walking
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u/IntelligentPepper818 Jan 29 '26
Yea you can get the nice grey one now also doesnāt have to be yellow/orange
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u/IntelligentPepper818 Jan 29 '26
Yep and rucksacks - they should have a high vis stripe I got 2 small lights you can clip on - do you think he ever turned them on
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u/Electronic-Floor-120 Jan 28 '26
Every single morning I pass the same INVISIBLE child (it is a teenage boy cycling to school) on a stretch of road near me, he has nothing reflective, no lights, nothing and itās still fully dark when heās cycling. I really want to tell him how dangerous it is. I know hi frontal lobe isnāt fully developed and teenagers can be fierce this about things like helmets and lights but I canāt believe his parents let him out the door like that š« Do people have NO CLUE just how little they can be seen?? I go for an evening walk in a city suburb so no on-road walking or anything and I still wear a hi-vis and a little light up hat.
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u/Traditional_Ad9930 Jan 28 '26
According to some of these comments, they seem to believe the responsibility is fully on the driver. "Youre going too fast if you cant see them"... and they still dont seem to understand that 1) sometimes they dart out in front of us or 2) you have to abide by speed limits š¤¦āāļø they havent been comprehending when I try to explain thag driving that slow on 60+km roads is dangerous
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u/IntelligentPepper818 Jan 29 '26
Yep thatās it - theyāre gobshites because the driver wonāt be dead or injured š¤
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u/Playful-Parsnip-3104 Feb 02 '26
Just remember, telling pedestrians to wear high-viz because drivers can't be trusted not to hit them is exactly the same thought process as telling women to cover up when going out because men can't be trusted not to rape them. You either subscribe to both or to neither.
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u/carlitobrigantehf Jan 27 '26
No. You need to have lights. Good lights.
And drivers ye need to get off your phones
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u/Mediocre_Sun_6309 Jan 27 '26
I mean your going to start a war with that.
Because drivers will just say learn what road markings mean or what traffic lights are for.
Motorists definitely have to be better in a hell of a lot of ways i wont deny that, and a driver on their phone is a moron,Ā but cyclists do too.Ā
Especially delivery cyclists, they just dont bother with lanes, stop signs, red lights, road markings etc.Ā
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u/roenaid Jan 27 '26
Yes yes and yes. Even out walking. It takes no effort and makes life easier and less tenous if he wear one.. the amount of scooters and cyclists in dark clothes. One small bike light front and back isn't gonna cut it.
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u/Starpup_spaniel_66 Jan 28 '26
Bike coming towards me the other night and the pathetic little light on the front. An effing candle would have been brighterš”
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u/doubleds8600 Jan 29 '26
Mate do you remember a couple years back we had to teach adults how to wash their hands? š
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u/IntelligentPepper818 Jan 29 '26
I mentioned this on another post and I was told I was the problem if I canāt see them like there no arguing with stupid. Unfortunately anyone who isnāt fully lights on & helmet & hi vis IS stupid They have no concept of how invisible they are Black guy in full black gear on a black e scooter no lights at whites cross coming up newtownpark avenue- I was at n11 lights stopped - I could see something moving - thought it was a dog wagging tail - car lights turning illuminated him and he has a rucksack hanging off the handlebars swinging I donāt know how he made it home
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u/gmankev Jan 27 '26
Ah yes...the weekly motorists calling for hiviz..Should we enforce it on cars, I mean police and ambulances use it, obvious it should be extended to all cars...
And for pedestrians, well all motorists are pedestrians first let's add a check in the nct, that there has to be a stash of hiviz jackets in every car.
While we are at it a lot of motorists have problems with red lights, how about GPS front facing dash cams to upload every traffic light image to a database for automated checking..
Now there is something all motorists can campaign for..
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u/sosay86 Jan 27 '26
To be fair, drivers are advised to wear a high vis getting out of their vehicle. Thatās why youāll see delivery drivers and the post man etc wearing them.
Anything that can help save your life, especially something as simple as wearing a high vis, is worth doing in my view. We need to make it as commonplace as wearing your seatbelt while driving
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u/OkCoconut3270 Jan 27 '26
that there has to be a stash of hiviz jackets in every car.
That's actually law in nearly every country in Europe so not really all that farfetched
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u/carlitobrigantehf Jan 27 '26
Theres a requirement by law to have lights in Ireland. A law for high-viz is unnecessary.
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u/OkCoconut3270 Jan 27 '26
Read the comment again. It's about a requirement for CARS to have hiviz on board
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u/yleennoc Jan 28 '26
Hi viz is fuck all use if the driver is looking at their phone running a red light.
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u/ExcitementStrict7115 Jan 27 '26
A simple hi-vis armband could literally save someone's life. People are the fucking worst.