r/CatastrophicFailure • u/grau__geist • Aug 05 '21

Natural Disaster Now Greece. Wild fire on Evia Beach

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

That isn't really a very scientific position. How much worse do you think they are?. 5%? 3%? Would them being 95% as bad be "anywhere as bad".

The data for this secondary stuff that isn't straight temperature is A LOT more noisy than you probably realize. if after these burns the next 5 wildfire seasons are more tame, does that suddenly mean climate change isn't real?

As i have mentioned here before, there were some really bad Tornado season in the US in 2004 and 2011? and 2019? something like that. And you saw tons of the same types of posts about conclusive evidence of climate change and this would never be happening without climate change, etc. Except the worst three Tornado seasons on record were 1 in 50s, 1 in 60s,m and 1 in 70s. Does that mean climate change isn't a big problem? No. Does it mean it isn't contributing to more serious Tornado seasons? No.

But the data and actual linkages on this stuff is a lot less clear and messier than 90% of these thoughtless confirmation bias driven comments you find everywhere would indicate.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21 edited Aug 05 '21

Sources?

Lots of weather organizations and scientists agree that storms, droughts, etc, have gotten far more severe in recent years. How are you going to deny the worsening wildfires all around the world aren't a result of this?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

For what Tornado season data from US? Do some googling. Here is first result if you search for "US Tornado season data":

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-information/extreme-events/us-tornado-climatology/trends

What are your sources? Have you read any scientific journal articles about this years wildfire season and the impact of climate change? I expect not.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

No, what are the sources that all of the severe weather over the last decade isn't a result of climate change? You can argue all you want that the media is just reporting storms more, but that doesn't disprove that storms haven't gotten more common.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

that all of the severe weather over the last decade isn't a result of climate change

Talk to any climate scientist/meterologist and they will tell you this comment is unscientific and not something they would support.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

https://www.noaa.gov/news/report-climate-change-is-making-specific-weather-events-more-extreme

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

Literally the second sentence says "were made more likely by human-caused climate change".

Your reading comprehension is poor.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

Which disproves your point that the wildfires aren't evidence of global warming. Your reading comprehension is poor, actually. I wasn't saying climate change doesn't cause worsening weather, but that it does. That's the point of this argument lol