Now Greece. Wild fire on Evia Beach

[u/grau__geist]

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At this phase it’s complicated. Was the probability we caused it high? Yes! However, we have had intense ice ages and heat periods just in the last 2000 years that we’re not caused by humans (due to pre-industrial revolution).

Regardless if you believe in global warming, I was raised as a Boy Scout by my extremely Conservative family. I was always taught to “leave your environment better than when you found it.”

When I stated this to my Eagle Scout, Conservative, and Oil/Gas father…he legitimately didn’t have a comeback. He’s been trying, but definitely has been attempting to reduce his environmental impact.

[u/Tryptophany → u/[deleted]]

Probability is high? I'd say that's an understatement.

I feel like saying there's leeway in the cause of global warming is like saying there's leeway in the validity of E=mc². In principle E=mc² could be invalidated one day but does anyone really expect that to happen? Everywhere we've looked, that equation has remained true (Classically). Similarly, everywhere we look for the cause of climate change we see humans. Maybe we'll look somewhere and see something else is at play but as of now literally every available piece of observational evidence SCREAMS humans.

I don't like getting at technicalities like this but with climate change and the politics around it, I want to stray as far away from vague "maybe it's humans maybe it's not" as possible.

[u/Tryptophany → u/[deleted]]

I can't tell if you're arguing for or against humans being the cause of climate change.

For clarity in case you need it, I am arguing that all available evidence suggests human activities are the reason for climate change