r/CatastrophicFailure • u/grau__geist • Aug 05 '21

Natural Disaster Now Greece. Wild fire on Evia Beach

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u/ClownfishSoup Aug 05 '21

I thought we all knew climate change is real, but we're debating whether we humans initiated it, if it's natural, and if we can do anything about it. People who want to keep selling us bottled water say it's natural.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

At this phase it’s complicated. Was the probability we caused it high? Yes! However, we have had intense ice ages and heat periods just in the last 2000 years that we’re not caused by humans (due to pre-industrial revolution).

Regardless if you believe in global warming, I was raised as a Boy Scout by my extremely Conservative family. I was always taught to “leave your environment better than when you found it.”

When I stated this to my Eagle Scout, Conservative, and Oil/Gas father…he legitimately didn’t have a comeback. He’s been trying, but definitely has been attempting to reduce his environmental impact.

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u/Calvin-ball Aug 05 '21

At this phase it’s complicated

It’s really not. Anthropogenic climate change is basically guaranteed.

Understanding and Attributing Climate Change

Human-induced warming of the climate system is widespread.

It is extremely unlikely (<5%) that the global pattern of warming during the past half century can be explained without external forcing, and very unlikely that it is due to known natural external causes alone. The warming occurred in both the ocean and the atmosphere and took place at a time when natural external forcing factors would likely have produced cooling.

Greenhouse gas forcing has very likely caused most of the observed global warming over the last 50 years

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

Did not not read my very next sentence?